Does anyone even care anymore?

[wadesworld]

Hmm let's see...
Notre Dame, never see him at games, completely silent to the perpetual suckage of the team, no sports have been really "great" under his watch.

I've always hated Bucky but at least Alvarez is a jovial figure that pushes his programs for greatness. Scholl is just another straight laced shill that's part of the admin's nice-guy-ification of the University. He's Wojo with a front office job.

How many school's presidents are out speaking about the state of their athletic teams when they're underperforming?

Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.

[5DollarPitcher]

How many school's presidents are out speaking about the state of their athletic teams when they're underperforming?

Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.

Oh Wades....

[Viper]

There's just something "fake" about Lovell, Scholl, Wojo. "Nice guys" that know how to take a picture for the front page. No substance beyond that.

Badgers blow, and though a crook, at least Alvarez seems like a fun crook. Lovell, Scholl...liberal hacks that are fake as hell. That's one reason Lovell can't fund raise to save his life. The more conservative right leaning corporate world isn't impressed. Marquette University as a whole, not just Marquette basketball, has suffered under his stewardship.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Winning always helps, let's be honest it's a different product on TV with no fans, bands, cheerleaders and such as well. Losing makes it to a point of who cares.

Both teams are playing with no band, fans or students.  Why are we pathetic?

[79Warrior]

I've had plenty of fellow alums talk badly about Lovell in generalities. Can anyone give some details of what isn't liked about him and his leadership at MU (other than the fiscal issues, which are probably more COVID related than anything)

He is a very poor fundraiser. One of his key roles is to raise the big money. Wild was excellent at that. Lovell, not so much. Have you ever been at an event with him?  I have been to several, some small dinner events. Can you say no personality? He could not work a room if his life depended on it. You are correct, some of the near term fiscal issues are Covid related. Demographics do not favor the small ,private University right now. Lovell has not been effective in developing relationships that Marquette needs for long term fiscal prosperity.

[pbiflyer]

He is a very poor fundraiser. One of his key roles is to raise the big money. Wild was excellent at that. Lovell, not so much. Have you ever been at an event with him?  I have been to several, some small dinner events. Can you say no personality? He could not work a room if his life depended on it. You are correct, some of the near term fiscal issues are Covid related. Demographics do not favor the small ,private University right now. Lovell has not been effective in developing relationships that Marquette needs for long term fiscal prosperity.

Fr Wild embraced Fr Naus's mantra of make the person feel important. While I am not a big pockets donor, every time I saw Fr Wild, including running into him at senior day game last year, he always remembered me, asked about my family.
Lovell have never said anything beyond empty "go Marquette"  and similar. Rode the elevator and walked for coffee with him at the Gaylord last Thanksgiving tourney there. Bland, boring small talk.

[Badgerhater]

Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.

Not for long if the hoops program doesn't bring in the money.

[tower912]

So, he is into Catholic social teaching, the wrong kind of schmoozer and isn't raising enough money.   

[dgies9156]

He is a very poor fundraiser. One of his key roles is to raise the big money. Wild was excellent at that. Lovell, not so much. Have you ever been at an event with him?  I have been to several, some small dinner events. Can you say no personality? He could not work a room if his life depended on it. You are correct, some of the near term fiscal issues are Covid related. Demographics do not favor the small ,private University right now. Lovell has not been effective in developing relationships that Marquette needs for long term fiscal prosperity.

Sounds like Father DiUllio.

Or Father Pilarz.

[5DollarPitcher]

So, he is into Catholic social teaching, the wrong kind of schmoozer and isn't raising enough money.

You can be into Catholic social teaching and still be a charismatic leader.  The suggestion that we need to accept the robotic, disconnected "nice-guy" being shoved down our throat because he's a good Catholic is so misguided.  The BOT hired a guy that has no "it factor", he hired a bunch of high-profile guys with no "it factor", now the university is teetering on the edge of relevance. But Catholic social teaching, right?

[Badgerhater]

I still care.  That is why I email president@marquette.edu

[Mr. Nielsen]

Both teams are playing with no band, fans or students.  Why are we pathetic?

My statement was do I care. Yes, I care about the college game. Just not the same viewing experience. Losing for Marquette makes the experience worse.

[#UnleashSean]

How many school's presidents are out speaking about the state of their athletic teams when they're underperforming?

Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.

Ah wades, the last bastion of the projos.


I'm really glad that mu soccer, lacrosse, and volleyball are doing amazing. I'm sure their 2000 fans are thrilled.

[wadesworld]

Ah wades, the last bastion of the projos.


I'm really glad that mu soccer, lacrosse, and volleyball are doing amazing. I'm sure their 2000 fans are thrilled.

I didn't say a word about Wojo. The post had nothing to do with Wojo. That wasn't even the topic of discussion. You should read the post that was quoted.

[wadesworld]

Oh Wades....

...

[wadesworld]

Not for long if the hoops program doesn't bring in the money.

Which doesn't change the fact that the idea "no sports have been good under his watch" is completely inaccurate.

[5DollarPitcher]

Which doesn't change the fact that the idea "no sports have been good under his watch" is completely inaccurate.

Who said those words in quotation marks? I know I didn't...??

Can't even get the thesis right Wades - you've lost your touch.

[wadesworld]

Who said those words in quotation marks? I know I didn't...??

Can't even get the thesis right Wades - you've lost your touch.

Sorry. "Great."  Theres 0 doubt that the athletic programs are doing "great" compared to what they were outside of men's basketball. But it doesn't fit the agenda that everyone at Marquette sucks so 5Dollar will post 876 times between now and Marquette's next win. Then he will be nowhere to be found because he's got so many important things to do, which only come up when Marquette wins.

[mileskishnish72]

I am not a big pockets donor
Lovell have never said anything beyond empty "go Marquette"  and similar. Rode the elevator and walked for coffee with him at the Gaylord last Thanksgiving tourney there. Bland, boring small talk.

I think the answer is contained in your post.

[5DollarPitcher]

Sorry. "Great."  Theres 0 doubt that the athletic programs are doing "great" compared to what they were outside of men's basketball. But it doesn't fit the agenda that everyone at Marquette sucks so 5Dollar will post 876 times between now and Marquette's next win. Then he will be nowhere to be found because he's got so many important things to do, which only come up when Marquette wins.

Am I to spar with you and others about whether a 2pt win at St John means anything more than the paper it was printed on?

The Georgetown win was a precursor to the horrifying DePaul loss. I showed up after that win and was crucified for criticizing the team and coach. You've been proven wrong in your stance 15 different ways. What's the point?

[Jables1604]

Oh Wades....

I still care...I care that 5DollarBitcher seems to really be mad this time! I don't like that!!

[Jables1604]

I still care...I care that 5DollarBitcher seems to really be mad this time! I don't like that!!

Pitcher*

Sorry. Autocorrect.

[Badgerhater]

Which doesn't change the fact that the idea "no sports have been good under his watch" is completely inaccurate.

Other sports don't matter

[Galway Eagle]

How many school's presidents are out speaking about the state of their athletic teams when they're underperforming?

Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.

I'm not saying they're bad but soccer was ranked like second in the country when I was there I think it was 7 or 8yrs ago and we haven't touched that since. In fact I believe we won the BE in Men's and Women's the same year. 

WBB is obviously considerably better, MLax is highly debatable but I'll chalk it up to coaching change, my fiancé said that WVB is better and that seems like something you'd know. Idk about track or golf and obviously MBB is in purgatory. 

point is it doesn't seem up across the board as you indicate.

[wadesworld]

Am I to spar with you and others about whether a 2pt win at St John means anything more than the paper it was printed on?

The Georgetown win was a precursor to the horrifying DePaul loss. I showed up after that win and was crucified for criticizing the team and coach. You've been proven wrong in your stance 15 different ways. What's the point?

What?

5$: Other Marquette sports aren't "great."
Me: Well, they're significantly better in just about every other sport than they have been in a long time.
5$ (and Unleash): You're such a Projo and you're so wrong about it him!

Well, you got me!