The Hey its 2021 now guys MLB thread

[GB Warrior]

Guess that trade wasn't so bad afterall.

Came here to post this. I think the Brewers may have won the trade

[Jockey]

Anyone who called it "abuse" or was deeply bothered and offended by it.  Just a bit of hyperbole, something you're well familiar with 

Sarcasm and hyperbole - my bread and butter. 

[jsglow]

Came here to post this. I think the Brewers may have won the trade

Remind me of the details. To lazy to look up.

[CreightonWarrior]

Lauer/Urias for Davies/Grisham

[cheebs09]

Lauer/Urias for Davies/Grisham

With I think Lauer being a fraction of the cost as Davies. I believe Davies was at $8M and Lauer is under $1M.

[Dish]

If one goes by WAR:

Urias 2.3
Lauer 1.9

Grisham 3.1

Since Davies was part of the package for Darvish, I don't know how to completely correlate him into this.

Darvish 1.3

Seems fairly even, both teams seemed to do well here.

[jsglow]

Lauer/Urias for Davies/Grisham

Yeah, I like that a great deal more at the end of the '21 season.  Both young guys we got appear to be multi-year foundational players.  Control for teams like Milwaukee is very important.

[GB Warrior]

Yeah, I like that a great deal more at the end of the '21 season.  Both young guys we got appear to be multi-year foundational players.  Control for teams like Milwaukee is very important.

Urias has his warts, to be sure, but shows enough on both defense and offense in between the defensive lapses. See last night.

The real win is that he might no longe be the primary piece of that trade is a competent starter like Lauer having 3 more years of control beyond this one.

That will be huge as inevitably the Brewers will trade some or all of their starters if their contention window closes

[wadesworld]

Remember when the Astros gave the Brewers Josh Hader, Adrian Houser, Domingo Santana, and Brett Phillips for Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers?

I have nothing more.  Just wanted to reminisce on that for a moment.

[cheebs09]

Remember when the Astros gave the Brewers Josh Hader, Adrian Houser, Domingo Santana, and Brett Phillips for Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers?

I have nothing more.  Just wanted to reminisce on that for a moment.

Thank you Wilmer Flores.

[wadesworld]

Thank you Wilmer Flores.

Yup.

Then again, we would've also had Zack Wheeler (who's up there in the Cy Young race) and Fiers to flip for other pieces still.

Also thank you to Jonathon Lucroy for being afraid of Jan Gomes.  Got us Brinson and Ortiz, who turned into Yeli.

[cheebs09]

Yup.

Then again, we would've also had Zack Wheeler (who's up there in the Cy Young race) and Fiers to flip for other pieces still.

Also thank you to Jonathon Lucroy for being afraid of Jan Gomes.  Got us Brinson and Ortiz, who turned into Yeli.

That's fair, but not sure the Brewers are paying Wheeler 5/118 like the Phillies did. Especially with missing two years.

[wadesworld]

That's fair, but not sure the Brewers are paying Wheeler 5/118 like the Phillies did. Especially with missing two years.

Good point.

[WI_Inferiority_Complexes1]

Chris Sales was supposed to pitch in Chicago against the White sox on Sunday, but he got The Covid.  That sucks; would've been good television.

[CreightonWarrior]

Brewers about to be a club record 32 games over .500 and set a franchise record in road wins. Already set the club record of most games ahead in 1st place in division. Pretty awesome.

[MU82]

Because of his uniqueness and his historic season as a two-way player, Otani pretty much has MVP locked up even though the Angels again suck and he has faced absolutely no pressure except for whatever pressure he puts on himself.

Guerrero Jr., meanwhile, has carried a Toronto team that was expected to suck but is challenging NY and Bos for a playoff spot. He leads the league in BA, OBP, OPS, OPS+, TB and R. He has 1 fewer HR than Otani and 7 more RBI. He has a shot at the triple crown.

And again, Vlad Jr's team is in the thick of the playoff race, 8.5 games ahead of an Angels team that hasn't been in contention all season.

I love watching Otani and appreciate the incredible season he's had as both a hitter and pitcher. But doesn't Vlad deserve more love? Doesn't "value" at least suggest helping one's team contend?

[jsglow]

Brewers about to be a club record 32 games over .500 and set a franchise record in road wins. Already set the club record of most games ahead in 1st place in division. Pretty awesome.

The next lofty goal is 100 wins.  Entirely possible.  But then the real work begins.

[🏀]

Because of his uniqueness and his historic season as a two-way player, Otani pretty much has MVP locked up even though the Angels again suck and he has faced absolutely no pressure except for whatever pressure he puts on himself.

Guerrero Jr., meanwhile, has carried a Toronto team that was expected to suck but is challenging NY and Bos for a playoff spot. He leads the league in BA, OBP, OPS, OPS+, TB and R. He has 1 fewer HR than Otani and 7 more RBI. He has a shot at the triple crown.

And again, Vlad Jr's team is in the thick of the playoff race, 8.5 games ahead of an Angels team that hasn't been in contention all season.

I love watching Otani and appreciate the incredible season he's had as both a hitter and pitcher. But doesn't Vlad deserve more love? Doesn't "value" at least suggest helping one's team contend?

There should be a discussion surrounding the Angels complete failure at building around two generational talents, and then how they are on the same roster.

[tower912]

The Lions of Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matthew Stafford have some suggestions.

[The Sultan]

Yeah team success should have no bearing for MVP voting in an individualized sport like baseball.

[🏀]

The Lions of Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matthew Stafford have some suggestions.

Yeah, but the Angels HAVE won before.

[The Sultan]

Yeah, but the Angels HAVE won before.

Not since Moreno bought them.  He's the root of the problem, just like the Ford family is the problem in Detroit.

[tower912]

Yeah, but the Angels HAVE won before.

World Champs, 1957.

[tower912]

Jack Morris returned to the broadcast booth last night.

[MU82]

Yeah team success should have no bearing for MVP voting in an individualized sport like baseball.

Many agree, many disagree.