[Cracked Sidewalks] Her Time is Now

[brewcity77]

First, Marquette is not in the market for a new head coach and likely will not be in the coming months. But if they were, the first two names I would want them to pursue are a current NBA assistant coach with a Final Four on the resume and a sitting high-major head coach with three Final Four appearances and a National Championship. Who are these candidates? Let's find out:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2021/01/her-time-is-now.html

[tower912]

Good stuff.    And I agree with most of it.      Now for the sarcasm....So many want the Warrior nickname back.   How about Social Justice Warriors?

[THRILLHO]

Interesting read. My guess is that the first few women to be MBB head coaches will probably have to follow routes 1 & 2 -- unimpeachable NBA assistants, or almost legends in the women's game. Mainly because ADs will be hesitant to stick their neck out for an up-and-comer who has to go up a level *and* switch from the women's to men's game.

[Galway Eagle]

I'm game to give it a shot. Though I do think recruiting would be tougher than you're giving it credit for due to high school boy arrogance toward women athletes and more than a few "old school dads" telling their kids not to play for a woman.

That being said all it takes is a couple classes to prove their coaching chops in Men's before those people come around.

[brewcity77]

I'm game to give it a shot. Though I do think recruiting would be tougher than you're giving it credit for due to high school boy arrogance toward women athletes and more than a few "old school dads" telling their kids not to play for a woman.

That being said all it takes is a couple classes to prove their coaching chops in Men's before those people come around.

I think there are times when a woman head coach would be a disadvantage on the recruiting trail, but I also think there will be mothers who are more comfortable sending their sons to learn and be watched over by another mother. Like all recruiting, you win some and lose some.

[forgetful]

I think there are times when a woman head coach would be a disadvantage on the recruiting trail, but I also think there will be mothers who are more comfortable sending their sons to learn and be watched over by another mother. Like all recruiting, you win some and lose some.

This is a very good point. And a lot of time, the mom is the one really making a big impact on the recruit.

[asdfasdf]

Great read, thanks for writing this up.

Side note, there is another woman who is currently an AC at the men's D1 level: Corin "Tiny" Adams at Loyola Maryland. Hired this off season.

[brewcity77]

Great read, thanks for writing this up.

Side note, there is another woman who is currently an AC at the men's D1 level: Corin "Tiny" Adams at Loyola Maryland. Hired this off season.

Thanks for finding that! I will update the article.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

Good stuff.    And I agree with most of it.      Now for the sarcasm....So many want the Warrior nickname back.   How about Social Justice Warriors?

Just "Warriors" with Joan of Arc as the mascot and a female head coach. We were the first Catholic university to go co-ed; it's the right call.

[Heisenberg]

I think there are times when a woman head coach would be a disadvantage on the recruiting trail, but I also think there will be mothers who are more comfortable sending their sons to learn and be watched over by another mother. Like all recruiting, you win some and lose some.

CBB is all about recruiting.  If I was the AD I would only have one question ... "Why would a player like Patrick Baldwin Jr give you the time of day?" (to put it bluntly).

If she can answer this question credibly, then do it.

That said, I do not think she can, and if she cannot, it would not only be program suicide, it would set back all women that want to make the leap to the head coach chair in Men's CBB for a long time. 

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The next logical step is to hire a woman at a Power 5 school as an assistant and watch them reel in recruits first before they make the leap.

[barfolomew]

I think it makes sense.
And, you could pay them 20% less salary.

(It saddens me that I have to use teal there.)

[MU82]

Good stuff.    And I agree with most of it.      Now for the sarcasm....So many want the Warrior nickname back.   How about Social Justice Warriors?

So now, we not only have to use teal but we have to announce that teal is sarcasm beforehand? C'mon, tower!!!

brewski: Interesting, thought-provoking piece. The time a woman finally is hired to coach a men's program, it will be a monumental event, and the ensuing years would be pressure-filled and highly scrutinized. But that's the way it is anytime there is a first, as was the case for the first Black coaches/managers in the various sports.

My only hope is that the woman is hired at a school where success, and fairly quick success, is realistically achievable. Not a given, of course, but at least realistically achievable. In other words, not the likes of Chicago State or Binghamton or Hartford.

[tower912]

A lot of easily triggered bro-flakes out there.    Didn't want to spook any of them.   

[Galway Eagle]

I think there are times when a woman head coach would be a disadvantage on the recruiting trail, but I also think there will be mothers who are more comfortable sending their sons to learn and be watched over by another mother. Like all recruiting, you win some and lose some.

That's sort of what I mean. If you could come out the gates with a couple classes and have some success with the kids who's moms sent them your way then eventually even the grumbly old school dads would have to at least hear you out.

Essentially, I'm saying it would all be dependent on her first couple classes and I think unfortunately there'd be a shorter leash due to that.

[brewcity77]

That's sort of what I mean. If you could come out the gates with a couple classes and have some success with the kids who's moms sent them your way then eventually even the grumbly old school dads would have to at least hear you out.

That's the main reason I had Lindsay Gottleib at the top of my list. Hard to say "what does a woman know?" when she's coming from a NBA bench.

brewski: Interesting, thought-provoking piece. The time a woman finally is hired to coach a men's program, it will be a monumental event, and the ensuing years would be pressure-filled and highly scrutinized. But that's the way it is anytime there is a first, as was the case for the first Black coaches/managers in the various sports.

My only hope is that the woman is hired at a school where success, and fairly quick success, is realistically achievable. Not a given, of course, but at least realistically achievable. In other words, not the likes of Chicago State or Binghamton or Hartford.

Thanks. Honestly, I think a program like ours would be ideal. I think it would be better in a Top-6 conference where recruiting at the highest level is possible and with a program where there's proof that success is possible. Georgetown or St John's would also fit the mold. I also think a smaller league like the Big East is a better choice than an ACC or Big 10 where you just have so many high level programs at the top of the mountain.

[tower912]

Keep feeding Heisie rope.   He is making his own noose.   

[rocky_warrior]

Heisie - that line of commentary is an embarrassment.  It's been lopped off.  Don't start it again.

[#UnleashSean]

Don't want to get into the arguments of women vs men or recruiting bias etc. Because it's dumb and mostly incorrect when it comes to coaching.

The only one who intrigues me is the Cleveland cavs coach. I don't want a coach who has only coached at the women's divison. The games are different enough for that to make a difference.

[warriorchick]

I think there are times when a woman head coach would be a disadvantage on the recruiting trail, but I also think there will be mothers who are more comfortable sending their sons to learn and be watched over by another mother. Like all recruiting, you win some and lose some.

How many high-level coaches are actually moms?  Marquette, to my knowledge, has never had one for their women's team.

You can talk about gender equality all you want, but very few women have the support at home necessary to have both a high-pressure, 100-hour-a-week job and a family.

[brewcity77]

How many high-level coaches are actually moms?  Marquette, to my knowledge, has never had one for their women's team.

You can talk about gender equality all you want, but very few women have the support at home necessary to have both a high-pressure, 100-hour-a-week job and a family.

Gottleib, Frese, & Barnes are all mothers.

[Badgerhater]

If she is better than Wojo then hire her.

[Viper]

I find female coaches in football ridiculous. Has a woman lined-up against Aaron Donald? Had to check Gronk at the line? Caught a speed ball from Watson?
However, basketball can work. Ladies play at a high level. They know the game because they've played it.  I also think a female on the recruiting trail could be effective. I mean, whatever Wojo is sellin', a female coach can too. And quite frankly, if a recruit looks over Wojo's results, well, enough said. Count me in!

[Lennys Tap]

I think there are times when a woman head coach would be a disadvantage on the recruiting trail, but I also think there will be mothers who are more comfortable sending their sons to learn and be watched over by another mother. Like all recruiting, you win some and lose some.

Yep. Like Galway said, lots of old school Dads won't like the idea. Honestly, neither will some old school Moms. But for some it would actually give you an edge. A sharp coach could easily read the tea leaves and narrow her recruiting focus accordingly. Given a strong hire, I think it's (overall) a recruiting advantage.

[warriorchick]

I find female coaches in football ridiculous. Has a woman lined-up against Aaron Donald? Had to check Gronk at the line? Caught a speed ball from Watson? However, basketball can work. Ladies play at a high level. They know the game because they've played it.

What program did Buzz play for?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I find female coaches in football ridiculous. Has a woman lined-up against Aaron Donald? Had to check Gronk at the line? Caught a speed ball from Watson?
However, basketball can work. Ladies play at a high level. They know the game because they've played it.  I also think a female on the recruiting trail could be effective. I mean, whatever Wojo is sellin', a female coach can too. And quite frankly, if a recruit looks over Wojo's results, well, enough said. Count me in!

Why does a coach have to have played at a high level to be successful as a coach?