2010 Vibe

[The Lens]

With Villanova on the horizon and looking down the barrel at a 1-3 conf open, I'm getting some 2010 flashbacks.  Signs of nice wins, paired with a rough opening conf schedule and of non conf home game (NC State / Okla State) that we all felt we should have won. 

And after 1-4, it got worse bc we lost to KenPom's 170th team, DePaul 51-50 to fall to 2-5.  But then schedule opened up, 5 games all KenPom 50 or higher, more confidence was gained and wins were acrued. 

We finished the season 11-7 in conf. 

2010 followed the graduation of Dom, Jerel and Wesley.  There were talks on here of building statues for those 3 outside the BC.  They were are important to the previous 4 years collectively as Markus (and Sacar).  Guys like Lazar (and Acker, and David, and Jimmy) had to step into bigger roles while new talent like Buycks and DJO filled in the gaps.

I am not ready to give up on 2021.  I think there's a 2010 stuck inside it, waiting to come out.  Let's just hope we don't blow that lead against Washington this time.

[Galway Eagle]

Didn't we go 10-8? Too lazy to look it up. But yeah was thinking something similar the other day

Edit: Apparently we did go 11-7. Apparently that season's more impressive in reality than in my memory.

[Shooter McGavin]

With Villanova on the horizon and looking down the barrel at a 1-3 conf open, I'm getting some 2010 flashbacks.  Signs of nice wins, paired with a rough opening conf schedule and of non conf home game (NC State / Okla State) that we all felt we should have won. 

Sounds about right to me.  Good post.  Hope you are right.

And after 1-4, it got worse bc we lost to KenPom's 170th team, DePaul 51-50 to fall to 2-5.  But then schedule opened up, 5 games all KenPom 50 or higher, more confidence was gained and wins were acrued. 

We finished the season 11-7 in conf. 

2010 followed the graduation of Dom, Jerel and Wesley.  There were talks on here of building statues for those 3 outside the BC.  They were are important to the previous 4 years collectively as Markus (and Sacar).  Guys like Lazar (and Acker, and David, and Jimmy) had to step into bigger roles while new talent like Buycks and DJO filled in the gaps.

I am not ready to give up on 2021.  I think there's a 2010 stuck inside it, waiting to come out.  Let's just hope we don't blow that lead against Washington this time.

[The Sultan]

I forgot about that stretch where they beat three straight teams on the road in overtime toward the end of February.

Yeah I can see the similarities between that team and this one.  This one doesn't have as good of a coach, and he doesn't have a history as a strong finisher.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yeah I can see the similarities between that team and this one.  This one doesn't have as good of a coach, and he doesn't have a history as a strong finisher.

Buzz is a better coach than Wojo. But while Wojo has sucked as a finisher the last two years, the two years before that he finished the regular season 4-1 and 5-1.

[The Sultan]

Buzz is a better coach than Wojo. But while Wojo has sucked as a finisher the last two years, the two years before that he finished the regular season 4-1 and 5-1.

DAMN RECENCY BIAS!!!!

[tower912]

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[The Lens]

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FYI, Pontiac builds excitement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUz5VZ1yUZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27SBY4uVSfk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc9fE2ErOHQ

[Hards Alumni]

FYI, Pontiac builds excitement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUz5VZ1yUZQ

They build nothing, nowadays.

[The Lens]

They build nothing, nowadays.

My hope is this thread turns into a war of Pontiac devotees vs. Buick devotees and it gets so heated it must be locked.

[buckchuckler]

My hope is this thread turns into a war of Pontiac devotees vs. Buick devotees and it gets so heated it must be locked.

Man unnatural carnal knowledge Buick.  Pontiac was so much better.  Can you name one cool Buick?  No.  It doesn't exist.  The Trans Am was a damn icon.  It was developed by John DeLorean.  What else do you need.

[tower912]

With the Oldsmobile devotees chiming in.

[The Lens]

With the Oldsmobile devotees chiming in.

And a weird Saturn fan here or there.

[BM1090]

I think we'll be fine. The opening schedule had all the signs of a 1-3 or 2-2 start after four and a 3-4 or 4-3 start after seven. Still think we finish 11-9 or 12-8.

[lawdog77]

And a weird Saturn fan here or there.

Some sweatervesters will be stating their case for the Model T

[tower912]

And a weird Saturn fan here or there.

Not as weird as the Geo fans.

[rocky_warrior]

My hope is this thread turns into a war of Pontiac devotees vs. Buick devotees and it gets so heated it must be locked.

Maybe, but my recollection is that the Vibe was a cooperation with Toyota, so the sister car is a Matrix.

[The Sultan]

Man unnatural carnal knowledge Buick.  Pontiac was so much better.  Can you name one cool Buick?  No.  It doesn't exist.  The Trans Am was a damn icon.  It was developed by John DeLorean.  What else do you need.

I'm not really a car guy, but this is something I never understood.  You dropped Pontiac but kept Buick?  My guess is that it was to appeal to the aging Boomers.  But now their add campaigns are mocking the brand.  "That's a Buick?"

[tower912]

When GM was bankrupt and undergoing reorganization, Buick had distinctive product in the pipeline.   Pontiac didn't.  All of their upcoming stuff was indistinguishable from Chevy except for styling.   Pontiac was sacrificed.

[MDMU04]

I'm not really a car guy, but this is something I never understood.  You dropped Pontiac but kept Buick?  My guess is that it was to appeal to the aging Boomers.  But now their add campaigns are mocking the brand.  "That's a Buick?"

Buick survived simply because the brand is enormously popular in China. Buick typically sells around as many cars per year in China as Honda does in the US.

[The Sultan]

When GM was bankrupt and undergoing reorganization, Buick had distinctive product in the pipeline.   Pontiac didn't.  All of their upcoming stuff was indistinguishable from Chevy except for styling.   Pontiac was sacrificed.

Buick survived simply because the brand is enormously popular in China. Buick typically sells around as many cars per year in China as Honda does in the US.

So you both are saying that they made a logical choice and the rambling rantings of a message board guy are off?

[WI inferiority Complexes]

Nice enough cars. I could let you know if we take one in, but as a new car dealership we have to wholesale it if it doesn't pass safety.

[buckchuckler]

I'm not really a car guy, but this is something I never understood.  You dropped Pontiac but kept Buick?  My guess is that it was to appeal to the aging Boomers.  But now their add campaigns are mocking the brand.  "That's a Buick?"

I think the actual reason was the for some completely unknown reason, Buick actually sells really well in China.  So it was kept for that market.

** Ah, I see it was already addressed.  It is still stupid.  And Buick seems like a good car comparison for Wojo.  Completely acceptable, but in no way cool, great or exciting, other than its proximity to a cooler brand (Caddy).  Just competent with an everlasting hope it could be something better.  But in the end, its still a Buick.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

Man unnatural carnal knowledge Buick.  Pontiac was so much better.  Can you name one cool Buick?  No.  It doesn't exist.  The Trans Am was a damn icon.  It was developed by John DeLorean.  What else do you need.

The Regal GS wasn't a bad car. Now, just SUVs.

[The Lens]

It's just incredible that GM lasted along as it did making 5 of the same car + GMC trucks.  At least Ford only had 3 versions.