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HutchwasClutch

#2300
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 17, 2021, 08:20:25 AM

Dude you're the one who said Pop was going for system guys and throwing him under the bus based on assumptions. And then using a Tweet as evidence.

So spare me the outrage over the quality of your argument.

And you call out others for being intellectually dishonest. Look in the mirror.  You want to debate about my Pop statement, don't quote something totally separate as citation of my facts being wrong.  And all the responses until now were about why other guys weren't selected based on reasons unrelated to the coach.  Now it's about my Pop statement. So move goalposts freely as you wish. 




The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on July 17, 2021, 08:33:23 AM
And you call out others for being intellectually dishonest. Look in the mirror.  You want to debate about my Pop statement, don't quote something totally separate as citation of my facts being wrong.  And all the responses until now were about why other guys weren't selected based on reasons unrelated to the coach.  Now it's about my Pop statement. So move goalposts freely as you wish. 



I was debating your whole post because you made the accusation (without facts) that Pop was choosing his system guys over talent. Sorry your mind only revolves around simple concepts and can't figure out YOU brought it up in the first place!
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

HutchwasClutch

#2302
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 17, 2021, 08:50:15 AM

I was debating your whole post because you made the accusation (without facts) that Pop was choosing his system guys over talent. Sorry your mind only revolves around simple concepts and can't figure out YOU brought it up in the first place!

You were debating my whole post? Who knew until these last two? 

I stated Pop has lost his mind picking these two. My next comment was anticipation of others explaining this as Pop choosing system guys, which has been stated before. 

You are so insufferable.

MuggsyB

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on July 17, 2021, 12:47:03 AM
WTH is going on with USA Basketball right now?  Keldon Johnson and Javale McGee added. No Trae, no Ja, Zion, Julius, De'Aaron etc, etc, etc??

Popovich has lost his mind.  And please, spare me he's getting guys who fit his system, his style, whatever.  Supreme talent wins in the end.  Johnson and especially McGee shouldn't be near this team.

This just has disaster written all over it.

I'm with you....bizarre additions.

The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on July 17, 2021, 08:57:53 AM
You were debating my whole post? Who knew until these last two? 

I stated Pop has lost his mind picking these two. My next comment was anticipation of others explaining this as Pop choosing system guys, which has been stated before. 

You are so insufferable.

IOW, I shifted no goalposts. Thanks for the confirmation.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

The guys that were added have size. If Middleton, Booker, and Holiday don't play, I could see Trae being a natural replacement. I'm not sure a short scorer is what they need based on the current roster.

JWags85

Quote from: cheebs09 on July 17, 2021, 09:56:23 AM
The guys that were added have size. If Middleton, Booker, and Holiday don't play, I could see Trae being a natural replacement. I'm not sure a short scorer is what they need based on the current roster.

Bingo.  Even with Beal being out, the team is heavy on shooters and guards, Young would have just been more of a logjam.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: JWags85 on July 17, 2021, 01:16:38 PM
Bingo.  Even with Beal being out, the team is heavy on shooters and guards, Young would have just been more of a logjam.

How much can be expected of Holiday, Middleton, and Booker after a long playoffs, then immediate turnaround to halfway around the world to assimilate themselves to this team?  I really question that.  And Holiday's strength is not shooting the ball. 

Can never have enough shooters and playmakers in international play.

JWags85

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on July 17, 2021, 01:48:55 PM
How much can be expected of Holiday, Middleton, and Booker after a long playoffs, then immediate turnaround to halfway around the world to assimilate themselves to this team?  I really question that.  And Holiday's strength is not shooting the ball. 

Can never have enough shooters and playmakers in international play.

Holiday is there for perimeter defense and as the only true PG on the roster.

Durant, Lillard, Tatum, and Lavine all basically shot 40% from 3 the last 2 years.  Even if Booker, Holiday, and Middleton only play 8 min each, (which is unlikely), you have 4 very good shooters to eat up an average of 24 min each across the PG, SG, and SF spots.  And thats not including any Keldon Johnson minutes.

If you play KD and Lillard and Tatum 25 min, you only need 45 min from Booker, Middleton, Holiday, and Lavine.  This team is totally fine with playmakers and shooters from the PG/SG/SF position.  Especially when those big minute guys are the best scorer (probably player) on the planet in KD, a back to back to back 2nd team All NBA guy in Dame who is basically made for scoring big in international play with how most teams go under screens, and the most underrated star in the league in Tatum.

If everyone was perfectly rested and recovered and at their peaks, I don't think Booker, Middleton, and Holiday would likely be starting anyways.  Maybe Holiday with Dame at the 2.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Johnny B

lol  dont care what this board says fck crowder

MuggsyB

Jae is on pace for a 70 pt performance.

MuggsyB

No defense at all right now for Milwaukee.  Especially the help D.

CreightonWarrior

Why does every Suns fan look like they're part of some sort of elderly abuse scam?

An absolutely pitiful performance from the bucks.

MuggsyB

This Bucks team doesn't look ready to play at all.  Dumbfounding frankly.  Terrible g-tend call on Antetokounmpo. 

Jockey

If Teague is on the floor in the 1st quarter, the game is over.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on July 17, 2021, 08:34:31 PM
If Teague is on the floor in the 1st quarter, the game is over.

Forbes time?

CreightonWarrior

Teague getting lots of minutes, Middleton disappearing, no defense, jrue missing bunnies, Giannis shooting a 3 and missing FTs. Ballgame is already over.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

That was brutal.  Switching everything on D for no apparent reason, rec league turns, poor shot selection, and not enough tenacity on both ends of the floor.

MuggsyB

Good little run to start the 2nd.  The Bucks need to do a way better job with the high screen.

4everwarriors

Bucks strategy is to spot da Sons a lead, lull 'em inta a false sense of security, then fook 'em in da forth quarter, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

CreightonWarrior


MuggsyB

What a completely bogus call on Lopez.

MuggsyB

Great response from the Bucks but they still have these mental errors that can drive me up the wall.

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