NBA Thread 2020-21

[MuggsyB]

I mentioned before how good some of these NBA radio guys are on their broadcasts.  Davis is great for the Bucks and McInnis for the Sixers is also awesome.  I would cash in my portfolio if we could get either of these guys to take over Marquette Hoops on radio.  Honestly, I think we need a change and a person with prime-time talent and energy.  We absolutely need to market our program better.  I have no doubt we will turn the corner and be back to national prominence.

[The Sultan]

How many people actually listen to Marquette radio play by play these days?  On the list of things to market the program, it would be ranked approximately 39th.

[wadesworld]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TreyLAC_/status/1409211601593401345?s=19

CP3 is one dirty player. Tried to clip him a step earlier, wasn't able to, then wanted to do it so bad he went so far as to risk shredding his own hammy to clip Kennard.

[BM1090]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TreyLAC_/status/1409211601593401345?s=19

CP3 is one dirty player. Tried to clip him a step earlier, wasn't able to, then wanted to do it so bad he went so far as to risk shredding his own hammy to clip Kennard.

CP3 is dirty but I don't think there's much there. Looks like he just slipped. If he doesn't slip you never would even notice the first "attempt".

[GB Warrior]

Video isn't clear enough for me there and I didn't watch it live. Could be a situation where you see what you want to see - I can interpret that video both ways - a slip, and an awkward extension with the intent to trip.

Meanwhile, I thought Jae's F1 on PG last night was particularly bad - was actually kind of surprised it was not an F2 given he had eyes on his follow-through straight into PG's face.

[Jockey]

Changing the subject:

I'd like to start a discussion of Tyronn Lue. I'm interested in people's opinion of him as a head coach.

I will give my opinion after seeing a couple responses.

[The Sultan]

Lue's fantastic.  Probably have him in a group just behind Spoelstra, Pop and Nurse.

[NWarsh]

Changing the subject:

I'd like to start a discussion of Tyronn Lue. I'm interested in people's opinion of him as a head coach.

I will give my opinion after seeing a couple responses.

Behind Pop he is in that next group of Nurse, Spoelstra.  He is something like 10-2 in elimination games and 12-1 in clinching games.

[Jockey]

Lue's fantastic.  Probably have him in a group just behind Spoelstra, Pop and Nurse.

Surprised after the 1st 2 responses, but I agree completely.

His record deserves it, but I remember in Cleveland, where the consensus was that he lucked into the job cuz he was LeBron's buddy and only won because of LBJ.

[MuggsyB]

I give Lue a lot of credit for making strategic changes on the fly, similar to Nick Nurse.  I also think he has the perfect demeanor for a head coach.  Always confident but not cocky.  I never see the guy really rattled during or after the game, nor are there major histrionics on the sidelines.  A team is as confident as his/her coach.  It's an extremely important quality and can absolutely impact winning imo.

[BM1090]

Surprised after the 1st 2 responses, but I agree completely.

His record deserves it, but I remember in Cleveland, where the consensus was that he lucked into the job cuz he was LeBron's buddy and only won because of LBJ.

I fell into this group during his time in Cleveland, but he's proven to be a good coach and his players clearly buy in.

[JWags85]

Lue's fantastic.  Probably have him in a group just behind Spoelstra, Pop and Nurse.

Its interesting, I still don't think he's an overly impressive coach tactically or X&Os, but he's proven to be an awesome chemistry guy who can manage personalities and get the most out of his team.  Do I think he'd be as good of a coach on a team like Charlotte or the Pacers?  Probably not.  But then again, Phil Jackson was of that mold and was supreme at guiding talented superstar ego laden teams.  Lue seems to be similar.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I fell into this group during his time in Cleveland, but he's proven to be a good coach and his players clearly buy in.

Same.

[Jockey]

Its interesting, I still don't think he's an overly impressive coach tactically or X&Os, but he's proven to be an awesome chemistry guy who can manage personalities and get the most out of his team.  Do I think he'd be as good of a coach on a team like Charlotte or the Pacers?  Probably not.  But then again, Phil Jackson was of that mold and was supreme at guiding talented superstar ego laden teams.  Lue seems to be similar.

When I posed this question, this was my main opinion. Without MJ, Phil probably never wins a title or is in the HoF. Without LBJ, Lue never wins a title with a chance for another. But because they had these guys, they were able to win and, in the process, show that they were quality coaches.

Whether it be players or coaches, getting the right opportunity means everything - both in winning and in legacy.

[MuggsyB]

Trae Young out tonight. Wow just wow.  I'm shocked.  Bucks need to drop the hammer.

[GB Warrior]

Allows Trae to play the what-ifs when they were losing in 5 regardless.

[MuggsyB]

Allows Trae to play the what-ifs when they were losing in 5 regardless.

Could be?  He stepped on the ref's foot.  I never thought in a million years he would miss a game because of that.

[GB Warrior]

To be clear, not suggesting he's not legitimately hurt or skipping out. Not in their fabric. Just saying what the narrative will be.

[MuggsyB]

To be clear, not suggesting he's not legitimately hurt or skipping out. Not in their fabric. Just saying what the narrative will be.

Good point.   But honestly I'm super surprised.  You see guys step on another's foot all the time.  And he was basically stationary.  Maybe he tweaked another injury?

[MU82]

When I posed this question, this was my main opinion. Without MJ, Phil probably never wins a title or is in the HoF. Without LBJ, Lue never wins a title with a chance for another. But because they had these guys, they were able to win and, in the process, show that they were quality coaches.

Whether it be players or coaches, getting the right opportunity means everything - both in winning and in legacy.

Ability to manage egos is the single most important part of an NBA coach's job, and an MLB manager's job, too. You can be great at tactical stuff, but if you can't keep "the room" together, you can't win, especially in basketball.

Jackson was the best I've ever seen, though more and more of today's coaches follow that blueprint.

I think Lue is really good, and he's the kind of guy I root for.

And of course opportunity (and/or timing and/or good fortune) is huge. In baseball, Torre was the best ... but he didn't win big with the Mets or Cardinals or Braves. He needed the opportunity to manage the Yankees to have it all fall into place for him. Some might say, "But anybody could have won with those teams." 1. Wrong. 2. We'll never know. 3. What we do know is taht Joe DID win with them.

[Jockey]

Once again, starting the game with zero urgency when you have a chance to bury them.

It happens too often under Bud.

[BM1090]

The Bucks are just so unimpressive for a good team.

[MuggsyB]

Another poor start for the Bucks.  Hopefully they get together.

[forgetful]

Bucks have been terrible. Officiating nearly as bad.

[MU82]

Would somebody please let the Bucks know that the game has started?