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MU82

Wallace is a borderline Hall of Famer, IMHO. And Playoff P will be, too, if his postseason body of work doesn't improve.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09

Hawks remind me of Markus' senior year. No defense and a small point guard making it rain.

cheebs09

I was a huge Ben Wallace fan when he was with the Pistons. I'm shocked he made the HOF.

reinko

Quote from: JWags85 on June 23, 2021, 08:20:18 PM
Wallace was 4 time NBA DPOY. His 5 year peak was as defensively dominant as a player has been in the modern era.  He averaged 9.6 rebounds for his career.  You take out his rough, non starter years in Washington and he is well into double digits.

But as for your last statement, LMAO WTF?!  Please tell me a bunch of other HOF players that don't deserve to be there and show it's not a good measure of talent or performance

Mea culpa on the hyperbole, obviously everyone in the HOF is talented and accomplished, but it was more of comment that the folks in Springfield seem to have a bit of flexibility to see who they enshrine as all time greats.  But hey, I'm just a schmo who can barely hit an 18 footer.

tower912

Big Ben couldn't hit an 18 footer, either.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Uhhhh ....#11 on the Hawks is pretty good.  This is a one man wrecking crew.  They can't seem to guard the guy at all.   He can get a three or a floater any time he wants.  Would you force him left?

Jockey

This game shows what drives me nuts about Bud. No plan against Trae at all. It like a practice for him. How many 5-7 footers has he made with Lopez backing up?

Halftime adjustments? Nope. Just keep doing what didn't work in the 1st half. Lopez will keep backing up.

cheebs09

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 23, 2021, 08:52:41 PM
Uhhhh ....#11 on the Hawks is pretty good.  This is a one man wrecking crew.  They can't seem to guard the guy at all.   He can get a three or a floater any time he wants.  Would you force him left?

They need Lopez out so Young doesn't get 15 ft of space on every screen.

Jockey

Then Lopez backs up again to give Huerter a 7 footer.

What is the point of this defense?

tower912

And yet, here he is in the Eastern conference finals.   Limit everybody else and game plan for the next game
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on June 23, 2021, 08:54:47 PM
This game shows what drives me nuts about Bud. No plan against Trae at all. It like a practice for him. How many 5-7 footers has he made with Lopez backing up?

Halftime adjustments? Nope. Just keep doing what didn't work in the 1st half. Lopez will keep backing up.

Keep in mind the Hawks essentially don't have 2 starters.  The Bucks D tonight has been shredded by Young.  They have no answers on that high screen.  Huerter and Collins have played really well too.

The Sultan

Obviously rooting for the Bucks, but man is Young fun to watch.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Do you deny Trae the ball or get the ball out of his hands before half-court?  Have you looked at his stat-line?  It's still the 3rd Q brw.

JWags85

Middleton is so damn painful when this team needs a bucket and the half court is struggling.

Bud's been wildly out coached again. Someone needs to step up besides Jrue

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 23, 2021, 09:05:26 PM
Obviously rooting for the Bucks, but man is Young fun to watch.

His shooting and passing.  His janky foul hunting is far from it

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on June 23, 2021, 09:09:52 PM
Middleton is so damn painful when this team needs a bucket and the half court is struggling.

Bud's been wildly out coached again. Someone needs to step up besides Jrue

His shooting and passing.  His janky foul hunting is far from it

Eh they call it so...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

I might go with Giannis at the 5.  The help D is nowhere to be found for the Bucks tonight.

The Sultan

By the way, Marv is in person...and still bad. Hung on too long.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Atlanta is a very well coached team.  Why Nate McMillan was fired by Indiana is puzzling. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 23, 2021, 09:13:24 PM
By the way, Marv is in person...and still bad. Hung on too long.

He seems not to know the difference between a 2 and a 3. 

MuggsyB

Lost in this particular bad shooting game is that the Bucks have shot poorly from distance all throughout the playoffs.

MuggsyB

I dunno about that call.  Wow.

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 23, 2021, 09:13:24 PM
By the way, Marv is in person...and still bad. Hung on too long.

He's been HORRIFIC.  Like shockingly bad repeatedly

MU82

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 23, 2021, 09:13:24 PM
By the way, Marv is in person...and still bad. Hung on too long.

Yeah, sadly, Marv lost his fastball at least a couple years ago.

Had a pretty damn good first 5 decades as an announcer, though.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Young may have shot Atlanta out of this game
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MuggsyB

Bucks not securing defensive rebs.  Can't happen.

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