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cheebs09

Quote from: JWags85 on July 21, 2021, 10:33:16 AM
Depends on how much credit you give Kohl for "keeping the Bucks in Milwaukee".  Otherwise, good riddance.  He didn't know how to run the team and kept them in mediocrity for years cause being an 7/8 seed and making the playoffs was more important than have a few rough years but building a championship caliber team.

As for mocking Booker, he wasnt good last night (no Suns were outside of stretchs for Payne and CP3) but dude put up 42 and 40 in Games 4 and 5, in back and forth close games.  He also was brilliant in Game 2, 31/5/6.  Lot of Suns shrunk in big moments down the stretch, Booker is the last one who should get stick.  He's a bonafide baller.  Even last night he hit a couple contested mid range jumpers that were absurd

Kohl is a lot like Selig. Not great owners, but without them we don't have teams in Milwaukee. Maybe they traded notes when they were roommates at UW.

I think that's a big thing about Booker. It seemed we held on long enough during the last few games that at the end, they were a bit tired and the Bucks made winning plays down the stretch. Holiday was great defensively. The Suns make so many tough shots.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on July 21, 2021, 10:33:16 AM
Depends on how much credit you give Kohl for "keeping the Bucks in Milwaukee".  Otherwise, good riddance.  He didn't know how to run the team and kept them in mediocrity for years cause being an 7/8 seed and making the playoffs was more important than have a few rough years but building a championship caliber team.


Both Kohl and Selig deserve a lot of credit for keeping the Bucks, and getting and keeping the Brewers, in Milwaukee.  But other than that, they both sucked as owners.  No coincidence that ownership changes with both franchises lead to a re-emergence.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUBurrow

I'm not saying that Kohl didn't leave a lot to be desired as an owner, but he genuinely seemed to care about the team and the city, which is more than you can say about a lot of owners. It would nice to see him involved in this victory lap.

JWags85

Quote from: MUBurrow on July 21, 2021, 11:27:33 AM
I'm not saying that Kohl didn't leave a lot to be desired as an owner, but he genuinely seemed to care about the team and the city, which is more than you can say about a lot of owners. It would nice to see him involved in this victory lap.

I think Alex Lasry lives and dies with the Bucks, but I agree his father and Wes Edens seem detached.

But again, Kohl has no connection to what the Bucks have developed into.  I wouldn't expect to see Selig connected to the Attanasio Brewers grand success.  If someone sold a regional manufacturer and the new owners turned it into a national brand and then IPO'd, that first owner wouldn't be banging the gavel to open the NYSE with them, no matter how much he loved the company.

The Sultan

My understanding is that the current owners have been quite respectful to Kohl, and I think he attended and was recognized at a game earlier in the playoffs.  I mean, he is also 86 years old.  (As is Selig.)  I don't know how active and out there he is these days.
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 21, 2021, 01:09:53 PM
Buy Hammond a ring too.

https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2021/7/21/22586452/orlando-magic-giannis-antetokounmpo-john-hammond-nba-finals

Hammond unearthing Giannis and subsequently hiding him to prevent other NBA teams from discovering him was a stroke of genius
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on July 21, 2021, 01:11:56 PM
Hammond unearthing Giannis and subsequently hiding him to prevent other NBA teams from discovering him was a stroke of genius

I need to hear this backstory.

Jockey

One down.

Brewers - you're up next!

cheebs09

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on July 21, 2021, 01:11:56 PM
Hammond unearthing Giannis and subsequently hiding him to prevent other NBA teams from discovering him was a stroke of genius

I believe the Hawks were the other team that wanted him. I think Larry Drew coming from Atlanta to Milwaukee also helped let the Bucks know that Atlanta wanted him.

Not sure the exact details, but I think the Hawks thought he'd get past the Bucks and traded up to 16 for him.

The Sultan

Quote from: cheebs09 on July 21, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
I believe the Hawks were the other team that wanted him. I think Larry Drew coming from Atlanta to Milwaukee also helped let the Bucks know that Atlanta wanted him.

Not sure the exact details, but I think the Hawks thought he'd get past the Bucks and traded up to 16 for him.


Listen to this.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30310623/the-giannis-draft-woj-pod-how-listen

Or read this.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/basketball/anatomy-2013-nba-draft-antetokounmpo-was-close-being-hawk/bPGo2DIQ1fh8CSymQAZjNO/

Atlanta was the only team he worked out for in the United States.  They were going to pick Giannis and Dennis Schroeder, heard the Bucks MIGHT be interested in Giannis that morning, but didn't want to spend two picks to move up ahead of Milwaukee to get him.
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 21, 2021, 07:07:09 AM
That was great. Giannis was way better last night.

I was responding to "best since when" and it was best since that, for me

Jockey

Not really surprising,....

Giannis Antetokounmpo's jersey is currently second globally among NBA players in sales.

MuggsyB

So this Chick-fil-a person in Milwaukee said Giannis could not get food for life there until he wins another title?  WTF??  My guess is this will be rectified by the CEO. 

Warrior Code

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on July 21, 2021, 01:11:56 PM
Hammond unearthing Giannis and subsequently hiding him to prevent other NBA teams from discovering him was a stroke of genius

Hammond unearthing dino DNA and subsequently wreaking havoc over Isla Nublar, decidedly less so.
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CreightonWarrior

Quote from: Warrior Code on July 21, 2021, 11:15:53 PM
Hammond unearthing dino DNA and subsequently wreaking havoc over Isla Nublar, decidedly less so.
But he spared no expense!

4everwarriors

Quote from: MUBurrow on July 21, 2021, 11:27:33 AM
I'm not saying that Kohl didn't leave a lot to be desired as an owner, but he genuinely seemed to care about the team and the city, which is more than you can say about a lot of owners. It would nice to see him involved in this victory lap.



Clean up in aisle 8, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

4everwarriors

Booker's a great shoota, but he's a punk, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 21, 2021, 07:20:19 PM
So this Chick-fil-a person in Milwaukee said Giannis could not get food for life there until he wins another title?  WTF??  My guess is this will be rectified by the CEO.

You're right to be outraged that a man with a net worth measured in the hundreds of millions won't be getting free chicken tendies for life.

Better fix this extreme injustice.

4everwarriors

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 22, 2021, 06:59:20 AM
You're right to be outraged that a man with a net worth measured in the hundreds of millions won't be getting free chicken tendies for life.

Better fix this extreme injustice.




#privileged
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 22, 2021, 05:33:52 AM
Booker's a great shoota, but he's a punk, hey?

Please define "punk," nu?

Name some other "punks" in sports.
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ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 22, 2021, 06:59:20 AM
You're right to be outraged that a man with a net worth measured in the hundreds of millions won't be getting free chicken tendies for life.

Better fix this extreme injustice.

I'm surprised that Giannis hasn't been canceled yet for eating hate, with a large half sprite/half lemonade.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on July 22, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
I'm surprised that Giannis hasn't been canceled yet for eating hate, with a large half sprite/half lemonade.

Cancel culture has gotten pretty one-sided over the last year, so he'll be fine
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 22, 2021, 06:59:20 AM
You're right to be outraged that a man with a net worth measured in the hundreds of millions won't be getting free chicken tendies for life.

Better fix this extreme injustice.

How much money do you think Giannis has generated  for the city of Milwaukee?

#underpaid

Warrior Code

All right, children, leave the cancel culture stuff out of it
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