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Carton's Shot
« on: December 05, 2020, 04:43:10 AM »
Stayed up late to watch the game and am glad I did. Haven't enjoyed watching a MU game that much in a long time. Really love our crew of young guys - someone should start a poll about how many years Lewis will be here. I don't know if I've ever seen a more impactful game from a freshman.

The only real eyesore for me was Carton's perimeter shot. It looks like he's pulling the ball out of his shorts. Is that the form he shot 40% on last year? I mean as a PG you've gotta make the D respect you behind the arc (cough cough Derrick), but right now I don't know if I want him shooting his way out of the slump during games - take one or two if the D is sagging, but I don't think a Carton 3 should be a primary play option at this point.
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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2020, 06:02:36 AM »
It looks rushed.  I think its mostly rust.
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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2020, 07:27:49 AM »
DJ played like the player I hoped that we were getting.  That shot will come.  Even on his misses, I said that's a nice shot/nice touch.
He must lead us, and last night showed that he is more than capable. Im thrilled.

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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2020, 07:45:18 AM »
Stayed up late to watch the game and am glad I did. Haven't enjoyed watching a MU game that much in a long time. Really love our crew of young guys - someone should start a poll about how many years Lewis will be here. I don't know if I've ever seen a more impactful game from a freshman.

The only real eyesore for me was Carton's perimeter shot. It looks like he's pulling the ball out of his shorts. Is that the form he shot 40% on last year? I mean as a PG you've gotta make the D respect you behind the arc (cough cough Derrick), but right now I don't know if I want him shooting his way out of the slump during games - take one or two if the D is sagging, but I don't think a Carton 3 should be a primary play option at this point.

Glad you changed your mind about watching the game 1SE.

Lewis is like a savvy business investor- cooly ID's opportunities and acts decisively. He's a thinker. He proved that during the game but especially at the buzzer.

Love your description of Carton's shot! I noticed it too. Gives the defender a tiny fraction of a second longer to mess with him. To me, a bigger problem is his inability to understand that seconds on the clock are what they are. Very glad he made the 1st free throw at the end but kudos to Trice for the foul. I really like Carton, but things like that shot clock violation on the first possession of the game are maddening.
 
 

 

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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2020, 07:55:32 AM »
Glad you changed your mind about watching the game 1SE.

Lewis is like a savvy business investor- cooly ID's opportunities and acts decisively. He's a thinker. He proved that during the game but especially at the buzzer.

Love your description of Carton's shot! I noticed it too. Gives the defender a tiny fraction of a second longer to mess with him. To me, a bigger problem is his inability to understand that seconds on the clock are what they are. Very glad he made the 1st free throw at the end but kudos to Trice for the foul. I really like Carton, but things like that shot clock violation on the first possession of the game are maddening.
 

I think the bolded is largely an artifact of the TV clock and the actual game clock not being synched up this year. Apparently, if you look for the actual game clock on screen, contact with Trice occurred with 1.5 s still left on the clock. There was actually enough time for him to still get all the way to the hoop.

I've noticed this on shot clock issues too, the shot clock on the TV broadcast often ends before the one on the court. I think this is due to the delay in live broadcasts.

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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2020, 08:25:59 AM »
I think the bolded is largely an artifact of the TV clock and the actual game clock not being synched up this year. Apparently, if you look for the actual game clock on screen, contact with Trice occurred with 1.5 s still left on the clock. There was actually enough time for him to still get all the way to the hoop.

I've noticed this on shot clock issues too, the shot clock on the TV broadcast often ends before the one on the court. I think this is due to the delay in live broadcasts.

Yep..couple examples here of the clock being off:

https://twitter.com/PaintTouches/status/1335215133543501825
https://twitter.com/alexjesswein/status/1335218153392140293


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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2020, 09:49:01 AM »
On his FTs, he puts his off-hand on top of the ball. Not sure if it's the same for his jump shots

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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2020, 09:59:19 AM »
DJ played like the player I hoped that we were getting.  That shot will come.  Even on his misses, I said that's a nice shot/nice touch.
He must lead us, and last night showed that he is more than capable. Im thrilled.

Yeah, overall I'm thrilled with him - but that shot just looks super ugly to me. If it doesn't come I hope he knows/is coached/is ok with dialing it back on 3PAs. We have enough other shooting to spread the floor - especially if Theo keeps up his 100% clip!
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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2020, 10:08:40 AM »
Yeah, overall I'm thrilled with him - but that shot just looks super ugly to me. If it doesn't come I hope he knows/is coached/is ok with dialing it back on 3PAs. We have enough other shooting to spread the floor - especially if Theo keeps up his 100% clip!

I have no idea what in his form looks “super ugly” to you.  He struggled with his shot last night, missing a lot of good looks. It happens to good players. He’ll have games those will all be going in.  Not a thing ugly about his shot though.

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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2020, 10:19:03 AM »
I have no idea what in his form looks “super ugly” to you.  He struggled with his shot last night, missing a lot of good looks. It happens to good players. He’ll have games those will all be going in.  Not a thing ugly about his shot though.

That 3 at the end of the half looked nice
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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2020, 10:35:10 AM »
Yeah, overall I'm thrilled with him - but that shot just looks super ugly to me. If it doesn't come I hope he knows/is coached/is ok with dialing it back on 3PAs. We have enough other shooting to spread the floor - especially if Theo keeps up his 100% clip!

Nobody else who can really shoot off the dribble, though. It's important he is able to hit those shots at a somewhat efficient clip. I'm confident he will.

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Re: Carton's Shot
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2020, 11:29:37 PM »
His shot starts a bit low and is a little too much of a push, but if it goes in who cares.
It does not affect the outcome at this level because he has enough athleticism and intelligence in his game to know when he can get it off and when he cannot.
To move up a level, he will need to fix it.

The only disadvantage is that in time sensitive situations it will be better to get the ball to a guy with a high release like Lewis or Cain.

 

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