General College Basketball Thread 2020-2021

[Johnny B]

Do you think Stan potentially has the goods?

i think he does cbd but not really like typical weed and bong stuff idk

[MuggsyB]

i think he does cbd but not really like typical weed and bong stuff idk

Ha!  I guess I walked into that one. 

[JWags85]

Not anymore, hey?

They lost on the road to a preseason top 5 team, who had underachieved but is still stacked, after a 3 week layoff.  They are still light years ahead of almost everyone.  If they okayed that game on a neutral floor next Sat, Baylor is probably favorites by 6-8 pts.

This weekend is the first time I'm watching more than a minute or two of Loyola. It could just be a bad weekend, but I am fully unimpressed by them. There's talk of this team being better than their Final Four team but I do not see that one bit. That team was an 11 seed because they played in a bad conference and they got a couple breaks in their draw, but they were legit. I had them going to the Elite Eight in my bracket that season. Anything can happen in a one and done situation, but I'd be pretty surprised if they even made the second round.

Their offense is BRUTAL.  And when you shorten the game like they do and have minimal possessions, you let lesser teams stick in games if you're cold.  It was UGLY basketball

[Billy Hoyle]

Do you think Stan potentially has the goods?

Let's see in a few years. Saint Stan took over a team set up for a big year. They're senior/fifth year dominated.

[GooooMarquette]

They lost on the road to a preseason top 5 team, who had underachieved but is still stacked, after a 3 week layoff.  They are still light years ahead of almost everyone.  If they okayed that game on a neutral floor next Sat, Baylor is probably favorites by 6-8 pts.

No question they had challenges today or that they would be favorites on a neutral court. But today showed that they are hardly the unbeatable team that some make them out to be.

That's all I'm saying.

[rocky_warrior]

I really think those two are just in a different class. Really hope we get a matchup of unbeatens in the NCAA Final.

I expect you'll be disappointed. 

edit:  but hey, too bad their early season game was "postponed"

Bumping this, because you gave a long winded answer about how those two were the best two - but never addressed the "unbeaten" part which was my  bigger point   Though I admit it's hard to know what to expect from Baylor after the covid pause.

[brewcity77]

They haven't beaten anyone since Jan 15th and really haven't beaten anyone besides Loyola all year.

At Maryland is a Q1A win, they have 4 Q1 and 9 Q1+2 wins, and no losses outside the first two quadrants. They are a consensus 5-seed that might slip to the 6. They are certainly not an 8/9 right now and that link confirms it.

If you want to provide a list of 32 better resumes, go ahead. But just saying they are an 8/9 because...I don't know, I guess you want them to be isn't a strong argument.

[Uncle Rico]

Let's see in a few years. Saint Stan took over a team set up for a big year. They're senior/fifth year dominated.

LMU is 330th in turnover % on offense and 258th in forcing turnovers.  They foul a lot and are 204th in defensive effective fg%.  So, his defense at LMU looks familiar.

A lot of the minutes are going to juniors. sophomores and a freshmen.  They could be very good next year.

He's not coming back to Milwaukee anyway.  If he's successful at LMU, I'd suspect he'll wait for a Pac-12 job

[MU82]

In anticipation of the Big Ten and NCAA tournaments, the city of Indianapolis, with the blessing of the state, has relaxed COVID-19 restrictions.

Bars and restaurants can stay open until 2 a.m., bars can operate at 50% capacity (up from 25%), and restaurants can operate at 75% capacity (up from 50%).

[MuggsyB]

Oklahoma St. may be a sleeper team.  Cunningham is coming on strong and that team has athletes.  I'm not so sure the B12 isn't right there with the B14.  They have a number of teams capable of going deep.  I wouldn't read too much in the Baylor loss yesterday. 

[The Sultan]

Oklahoma St. may be a sleeper team.  Cunningham is coming on strong abs that team has athletes.  I'm not so sure the B12 isn't right there with the B14.  They have a number of teams capable of going deep.  I wouldn't read too much in the Bayor loss yesterday.

So they work on their core strength?  😉😉😉

[Uncle Rico]

Oklahoma St. may be a sleeper team.  Cunningham is coming on strong abs that team has athletes.  I'm not so sure the B12 isn't right there with the B14.  They have a number of teams capable of going deep.  I wouldn't read too much in the Bayor loss yesterday.

Year-in and year-out, the Big 12 is as deep as any league.  They've lacked national title contenders outside KU a lot of those years but it's always one of the most entertaining leagues and without the pretension of the Big 14

[MuggsyB]

So they work on their core strength?  😉😉😉

Wooops.  Corrected, ty.

[MuggsyB]

Is Oklahoma St. eligible for the tournament?  I forgot about their 1 yr ban.

[PGsHeroes32]

Is Oklahoma St. eligible for the tournament?  I forgot about their 1 yr ban.

Yes

[MuggsyB]

Yes

Dangerous team.  When I watch these games it's evident we need to increase our overall physicality and athleticism.  They have guys that get after it for 40 mins.  We seem to be way behind the tier 1 teams.  Everything needs to change although this is a process.

[rocky_warrior]

We seem to be way behind the tier 1 teams.  Everything needs to change although this is a process.

That may be your observation, but remember MU is 4-7 against NET Q1 teams.  That's fine. It's the 2-5 against against NET Q2 (tier 2?) teams that is the problem!

[MuggsyB]

That may be your observation, but remember MU is 4-7 against NET Q1 teams.  That's fine. It's the 2-5 against against NET Q2 (tier 2?) teams that is the problem!

Fair enough r w.  But if you watch these games it's apparent we have severe probs.  My take is our margin for error is infinitesimally small because of a wide range of issues.  We epitomize inconsistency and it's rather unfortunate.  Is it solvable?  Yes, but it will take a different approach and honest introspection.

[Spotcheck Billy]

During last night's OK vs. OK St game they showed a graphic that Cunningham's 40 points against OK on Saturday was the 1st time a player has scored 40 against a top 10 team since Novak vs. UConn.

I still have the baseball caps from that night.

[brewcity77]

Is Oklahoma St. eligible for the tournament?  I forgot about their 1 yr ban.

Currently yes. They were given the ban, but then appealed, which puts the ban on hold until the final decision is rendered. The thought is the NCAA won't rule until after the season so Cunningham can play, but if they ruled in the next 2 weeks, they could still ban them for this year.

That said, banning the likely #1 draft pick when you already won't have individuals like Kuminga or Green and teams like Duke, Michigan State, and Kentucky, it seems like they would want Cade in.

[wadesworld]

So #3 Baylor is playing #6 West Virginia at 4:00 PM Central Time on a Tuesday so that they can have 8-14 Kentucky vs. 13-10 Ole Miss (playing in the Eastern Time Zone, so could flip those two and that game would be starting at 5:00 local time) at 8:00 PM on ESPN?  Awesome.

[wadesworld]

The reffing in this Baylor vs. WVU game is pretty bad.

[PGsHeroes32]

The reffing in this Baylor vs. WVU game is pretty bad.

If youre a WVU fan it aint so bad.

[wadesworld]

If youre a WVU fan it aint so bad.

Exactly. Baylor is getting absolutely hammered every time down the court. I'm very impressed that they're in overtime and maybe going to win this game. They're incredibly tough physically and mentally. This is what a Buzz team would've looked like if his teams were also one of the best shooting teams in the country.

[wadesworld]

Going from a 94-89 overtime game to a 10-10 game over 10 minutes in is quite the change. The B1G sucks, even when it's good.