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What will Markus achieve in the NBA?

He'll never see a minute of PT
21 (7.6%)
He'll get a cup of coffee, see some junk minutes this year, and move on
110 (40%)
He'll be on a roster most years, but stuck on the end of the bench.
85 (30.9%)
He'll become a solid role player with an extended career
56 (20.4%)
Dwyane who? Markus is the GOAT.
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Re: Markus' NBA success
« Reply #100 on: December 20, 2020, 12:37:38 PM »
Would Fred Vanvleet be a good comparison in terms of a ceiling for Markus? Obviously not a one-to-one comparison, but just throwing it out there when you look at offensive skillset and being undrafted. Short term reality is probably a little less bright though.

It's hard to find a great comparison because of Markus' height, body type and skillset. VanVleet is a decent one. Isaiah Thomas. Others have mentioned Jimmer Fredette. VanVleet is stockier and a tenacious defender. As I said, it's tough to find a match, really.
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Re: Markus' NBA success
« Reply #101 on: December 20, 2020, 01:22:50 PM »
It's hard to find a great comparison because of Markus' height, body type and skillset. VanVleet is a decent one. Isaiah Thomas. Others have mentioned Jimmer Fredette. VanVleet is stockier and a tenacious defender. As I said, it's tough to find a match, really.

Yeah that's fair. I found an interesting article about Vanvleet's defensive mindset and development via Auburn days despite similar challenges that Markus has. His steals per game doubled over the past season.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/giant-slayer-how-raptors-fred-vanvleet-reaches-great-heights-on-defense/

If Markus wants to have similar success, may need to take a page from his book. Although you can't exactly change his frame or develop intangible PG distribution skills.


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Re: Markus' NBA success
« Reply #102 on: December 21, 2020, 07:33:56 AM »
Would Fred Vanvleet be a good comparison in terms of a ceiling for Markus? Obviously not a one-to-one comparison, but just throwing it out there when you look at offensive skillset and being undrafted. Short term reality is probably a little less bright though.

Anyone from Greta Van Fleet probably has as much chance as Markus does of playing meaningful NBA minutes.

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Re: Markus' NBA success
« Reply #103 on: December 21, 2020, 09:20:47 AM »
He played 3 minutes last night in a Denver 33 point blowout.  Thats not a good sign for him.  In three pre season games, he played eight minutes total, seeing the time in two games. All at the very end of games.  Still don't understand his reasoning signing with Denver with all their capable guards, but good luck to him.

Markus is with a really strong agency in Priority Sports.  Their lead, Mark Bartelstein, has a lot of juice in the NBA.  This absolutely could have been as a favor to Mark and to give Markus some incumbency.  I'm am not saying that was the reason it happened, but it could have been.  In any case, kudos to Markus for signing with Priority.  They are a really good outfit who absolutely take care of their guys.   
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« Reply #104 on: December 21, 2020, 09:35:42 AM »
Markus is with a really strong agency in Priority Sports.  Their lead, Mark Bartelstein, has a lot of juice in the NBA.  This absolutely could have been as a favor to Mark and to give Markus some incumbency.  I'm am not saying that was the reason it happened, but it could have been.  In any case, kudos to Markus for signing with Priority.  They are a really good outfit who absolutely take care of their guys.   

They also made sure to place him on an elite team. Gives him cover to learn the NBA by observing and not be called on unless the team has deep injury issues, which will also lower expectations for his impact. A winning scenario all the way around for an unheralded rookie.

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« Reply #105 on: December 21, 2020, 04:12:07 PM »
They also made sure to place him on an elite team. Gives him cover to learn the NBA by observing and not be called on unless the team has deep injury issues, which will also lower expectations for his impact. A winning scenario all the way around for an unheralded rookie.

Perhaps ... but there usually aren't very big expectations for undrafted free agents. Fans rarely say, "We can have a great season as long as (insert undrafted guy's name) is a stud."
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Re: Markus' NBA success
« Reply #106 on: December 26, 2020, 02:01:38 AM »
0 chance.

Hes like 20th off the bench right now.

He will get a chance at some point this year though.

Looks like he made it?

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den/denver-nuggets

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401266795
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Re: Markus' NBA success
« Reply #107 on: December 26, 2020, 07:35:27 AM »
He passed the ball?  Wtf?
hack on Markus, but hows MU doing w/o MH? The guy was the reason to watch MU the past few seasons. Could go off for 50 any night out. 1st team All American. Wooden Award finalist. Brought a ton of pub to what was otherwise a dull program. Shoot too much? Thats on the coach. MH did what the coach allowed. Will his game transfer to the NBA?
Spud Webb made the NBA. Different skill-set, but a shooter like MH will make it too. In a more wide-open pro game, that quick release deep 3-ball will garner respect.

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Re: Markus' NBA success
« Reply #108 on: December 26, 2020, 07:39:09 AM »
Sometimes I think the participants on this board know more about the NBA than NCAA basketball.

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« Reply #109 on: December 26, 2020, 08:11:18 AM »
Looks like he made it?

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den/denver-nuggets

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401266795

Congrats to Marquette's latest addition to the NBA.

I guess he had better than 0 chance.
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« Reply #111 on: December 26, 2020, 09:01:03 AM »
His salary  :P
He is on a 2-way contract.  Rules for this year leaves these guys much on the roster, but not with an NBA contract.

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« Reply #112 on: December 26, 2020, 09:14:14 AM »
He is on a 2-way contract.  Rules for this year leaves these guys much on the roster, but not with an NBA contract.
This article refers to the two - way contracts being worth about $500,000 this year. So for Markus and Juan a good deal.

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« Reply #113 on: December 26, 2020, 09:15:25 AM »
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« Reply #114 on: December 26, 2020, 09:21:55 AM »
Looks like he made it?

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den/denver-nuggets

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401266795

He came into the game with the Nuggets down 13 with 26 seconds left.  The Clippers ran down the shot clock to 2 seconds.  The Nuggets inbounded the ball to Markus and he launched one from the mid-court logo at the buzzer.  It rimmed out.

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« Reply #115 on: December 28, 2020, 10:44:50 PM »
Nuggets got their first win of the season.  Everyone on their bench played but MH.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401267204
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« Reply #116 on: December 29, 2020, 02:05:28 AM »
Jokic with a triple double with EIGHTEEN assists.

Over/under on thar many assists in Markus' career?
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« Reply #117 on: January 02, 2021, 12:56:30 AM »
Jokic with a triple double with EIGHTEEN assists.

Over/under on thar many assists in Markus' career?

Over. Smack the over. Buycks played 20 games in his random cups of coffee with the Raps and Lakers and had 24 assists. Given injuries and rest, I would bet Markus sees 5 min stretches a half dozen times this season. That will be enough to get him a handful and make a big chunk of that total.

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« Reply #118 on: January 03, 2021, 08:13:39 PM »
Nuggets coach left the starters in until the final 55 seconds up 20.

Markus only got 55 seconds of run.
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« Reply #119 on: January 04, 2021, 07:06:26 AM »
The Facundo comparison is interesting g. Also listed at 5'11" (I know Markus actually shorter) but is seeing significant run. Sure he was a previous pro and Argentian national player, but Markus was a first team AA and NCAA scoring champ. Shows that at that size passing and D clearly much more valued than ability to score (although 15pts in 20 min ain't bad there either)
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« Reply #120 on: January 04, 2021, 07:42:14 AM »
So Markus has more NBA minutes than Jerel right?
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« Reply #121 on: January 04, 2021, 09:07:50 AM »
Nuggets coach left the starters in until the final 55 seconds up 20.

Markus only got 55 seconds of run.

True story...

My son played a little basketball, but wasn't very good. He topped out at Freshman basketball and we were surprised he even made that team. He was one of the last guys on the bench. One day in a blow out, the coach waited until 0:23 to put him in. I was a little annoyed, but we were used to him not playing much. What really got me was when he took him out on the next whistle eight seconds later when the other team lost the ball out of bounds.
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« Reply #122 on: January 04, 2021, 09:32:44 AM »
The Facundo comparison is interesting g. Also listed at 5'11" (I know Markus actually shorter) but is seeing significant run. Sure he was a previous pro and Argentian national player, but Markus was a first team AA and NCAA scoring champ. Shows that at that size passing and D clearly much more valued than ability to score (although 15pts in 20 min ain't bad there either)

It’s actually not fair at all to Markus. Campozzo spent the last 4 years running the point for one of the top 4-5 best non-NBA teams and was all Spanish League first or second team the last 4 years. And he wasn’t first team in 17 or ‘18 cause he was playing behind Luka Doncic.  He managed to be Second Team all league as a backup PG.  Plus he’s a PG and he’s nearly 30.  He’s a seasoned vet pro whose natural position is PG, Markus is none of those.  College accolades are nothing compared to what he’s accomplished

If Markus put up the numbers he did while playing PG, it’s a different story. 

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« Reply #123 on: January 04, 2021, 09:41:06 AM »
Perhaps Howard could have chosen to sign with a team where competition was not so keen for playing time. Or maybe this was the best situation given the options available to him. Anyways, good luck to Markus, hey?
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« Reply #124 on: January 04, 2021, 10:05:39 AM »
Perhaps Howard could have chosen to sign with a team where competition was not so keen for playing time. Or maybe this was the best situation given the options available to him. Anyways, good luck to Markus, hey?
Looks like the Nuggets gave Markus competition, Campazzo, extended changes to prove himself and he finally came through last night. Made 5 threes and played pesky defense.

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/01/03/nuggets-facundo-campazzo-game-changer/


 

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