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oldwarrior81

UConn is another with only recent success.   
They deserve the # 8 spot over the past 30 years.

31 conference titles.   Before the BigEast they were in the Yankee Conference butting heads with Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island and UMass.

Sagarin has UConn as #49 since 1939. 
Gonzaga at #102, although the Zags were #127 when the the list was compiled in 2000.  It's a slow climb if all 80+ seasons are weighted evenly.

The Sultan

Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 19, 2020, 11:04:19 PM

Yep. They've been great since 2000, but had exactly 2 NCAA tournament appearances in the 20th century.


And despite how great they have been in the past 20 years....

Marquette still has more national championships, more national championship game appearances, more final fours, more elite 8s, more sweet 16s and more tournament appearances.

Gonzaga is ranked higher because they play in a crappy conference.  That's it.
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Quote from: oldwarrior81 on November 20, 2020, 10:42:50 AM
UConn is another with only recent success.   
They deserve the # 8 spot over the past 30 years.

31 conference titles.   Before the BigEast they were in the Yankee Conference butting heads with Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island and UMass.

Sagarin has UConn as #49 since 1939. 
Gonzaga at #102, although the Zags were #127 when the the list was compiled in 2000.  It's a slow climb if all 80+ seasons are weighted evenly.

While UConn is fairly recent, they've put together a resume of final fours and championships that competes with pretty much anyone.
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Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 20, 2020, 10:52:40 AM
While UConn is fairly recent, they've put together a resume of final fours and championships that competes with pretty much anyone.

Yeah ... I'm not gonna begrudge a program that has won 4x as many national titles as we have, to go with 7 Big East titles.
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 20, 2020, 10:52:40 AM
While UConn is fairly recent, they've put together a resume of final fours and championships that competes with pretty much anyone.


Agreed. I pondered whether UConn really belongs in the top 10 because of the recency factor, but gave them the nod because their 15-year run from 1999-2014 is arguably the most impressive extended run outside of UCLA's run from 1962-1976.

Gonzaga has had a really nice run since 1999, but it is light years away from what UConn did.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 20, 2020, 03:44:56 PM

Agreed. I pondered whether UConn really belongs in the top 10 because of the recency factor, but gave them the nod because their 15-year run from 1999-2014 is arguably the most impressive extended run outside of UCLA's run from 1962-1976.

Gonzaga has had a really nice run since 1999, but it is light years away from what UConn did.

UConn's last two titles were pretty unlikely.  The 2011 team was 20-9 (9-9 in conference).  That was the year the Big East sent 11 teams to the tournament and I think UConn was safe heading into the Big East Toirnament but certainly didn't have margin for error.  The 2014 team was one of the worst national champions since the tournament expanded to 64 teams.  Would be curious to see where they would be without those two unlikely titles.  That isn't to dismiss their accomplishments but what they did through 2009 was impressive on its own
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Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 20, 2020, 04:32:04 PM
UConn's last two titles were pretty unlikely.  The 2011 team was 20-9 (9-9 in conference).  That was the year the Big East sent 11 teams to the tournament and I think UConn was safe heading into the Big East Toirnament but certainly didn't have margin for error.  The 2014 team was one of the worst national champions since the tournament expanded to 64 teams.  Would be curious to see where they would be without those two unlikely titles.  That isn't to dismiss their accomplishments but what they did through 2009 was impressive on its own

Agreed, but they did take care of business in the tournament. That is not an easy thing to do.


1318WWells

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 20, 2020, 04:32:04 PM
UConn's last two titles were pretty unlikely.  The 2011 team was 20-9 (9-9 in conference).  That was the year the Big East sent 11 teams to the tournament and I think UConn was safe heading into the Big East Toirnament but certainly didn't have margin for error.  The 2014 team was one of the worst national champions since the tournament expanded to 64 teams.  Would be curious to see where they would be without those two unlikely titles.  That isn't to dismiss their accomplishments but what they did through 2009 was impressive on its own

2011 they went 9-9 in the Big East but didn't lose a game out of conference. Won the Maui.

Think about that for a sec.

Pretty tough conference.

MarquetteDano

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 20, 2020, 04:32:04 PM
UConn's last two titles were pretty unlikely.  The 2011 team was 20-9 (9-9 in conference).  That was the year the Big East sent 11 teams to the tournament and I think UConn was safe heading into the Big East Toirnament

That was one strange team. They never lost a game to a non Big East opponent all season and blew out quite a few non Big East Top 10 teams.

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brewcity77

Quote from: MarquetteDano on November 23, 2020, 04:29:13 PM
That was one strange team. They never lost a game to a non Big East opponent all season and blew out quite a few non Big East Top 10 teams.

I'd be curious how many teams with a .500 or worse league record earned a 3-seed or higher.

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