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wadesworld

Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2021, 06:56:59 AM
Goff starts next year in Detroit unless they ship him out for more picks.   Pencil the Rams in for the NFC championship game.

New Lions GM came from the Rams.

I would certainly not pencil the Rams in for the NFC Championship game. Heck, playing in the West, I wouldn't even guarantee a Playoff spot. If the 49ers get a quarterback and get healthy, they're not guaranteed to be better than anyone in their own division.

Then the Packers will still be good, the Bucs will still be good, if the Saints get a quarterback they will still be good. Stafford is good and makes the Rams better. But I don't think he takes them from a 6 seed and makes them a machine.

tower912

Stafford out of Detroit is going to be a revelation.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

I think the Rams will be better with Stafford, but I never viewed Stafford as a guy who would be elite if he were out of Detroit.  That being said, with that defense I can certainly see the Rams taking that next step.  They were only one step away from the conference championship this year so that's hardly a preposterous notion.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Two 1st round picks sounds great, but a huge difference between top 5-10 pick and 25-30 pick. These are 2late 1st rounders and a late 3rd. Plus a very average (at best QB).

My opinion is a win for the Rams. Got rid of Goff contract and can re-work Stanford's to open cap space.

tower912

Stafford gives the Rams a shot at the Super Bowl.   Lion are into their latest rebuild.   Win, win.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: BLM on January 31, 2021, 08:18:35 AM
I would certainly not pencil the Rams in for the NFC Championship game. Heck, playing in the West, I wouldn't even guarantee a Playoff spot. If the 49ers get a quarterback and get healthy, they're not guaranteed to be better than anyone in their own division.

Then the Packers will still be good, the Bucs will still be good, if the Saints get a quarterback they will still be good. Stafford is good and makes the Rams better. But I don't think he takes them from a 6 seed and makes them a machine.

On paper I think they are definitely better than the Cards in the West. And right now certainly better than the 49ers(this could change with health and adding a QB of their own).

To be honest, barring some significant moves I think Stafford also makes them better than Seattle. They have a massive edge on D. The offensive skill players are about equal. O line is edge to the Rams. Now Seattle loses their heavy QB edge(Russ is still better of course).
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

If Stafford stays healthy, I'd definitely make the Rams the favorite out West.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

cheebs09

Is my dislike of the Badgers clouding my judgement? I feel like Jim Leonhard would be an underwhelming choice for DC.

JWags85

Quote from: cheebs09 on February 05, 2021, 11:44:59 AM
Is my dislike of the Badgers clouding my judgement? I feel like Jim Leonhard would be an underwhelming choice for DC.

They were talking a bunch about him as an option last week on MKE sports radio, and I figured it was just standard local nonsense chatter like "oh let's mention the homegrown DC of the Badgers, what a cool story if he went to GB too".  But I agree with you. And I'm not even a Packers fan. Just feel like they could do better than a fairly inexperienced college coordinator

4everwarriors

Disagree. Who knows if anyone will be good or not. Lefleur, while he had NFL coachin' experience was a "gamble." Maybe bringing in some young stuff, who played in the League, will be someone the playas can relate to, rather than recycling the old farts, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

I'm with 4ever.  Leonhard is a 3-4 guy who played in Pettine's system so he knows what the player's know.  He had a tremendous reputation in the league as a player and will likely be a college coach somewhere in the next couple of years if he wants to go in that direction. 

I am not saying he would be the best option.  I really don't know enough to know.  But I can certainly see why they would be interested.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Meanwhile, you have GOT to be F-ing kidding me.

https://twitter.com/brobnfl/status/1357764256398270466?s=10

Don't fire Pace and give him another year to absolutely obliterate the franchise from the inside. Can't wait to see what they give up for a dude who was HORRIFIC all season

Hards Alumni

Quote from: JWags85 on February 05, 2021, 02:57:19 PM
Meanwhile, you have GOT to be F-ing kidding me.

https://twitter.com/brobnfl/status/1357764256398270466?s=10

Don't fire Pace and give him another year to absolutely obliterate the franchise from the inside. Can't wait to see what they give up for a dude who was HORRIFIC all season


jesmu84

Quote from: JWags85 on February 05, 2021, 02:57:19 PM
Meanwhile, you have GOT to be F-ing kidding me.

https://twitter.com/brobnfl/status/1357764256398270466?s=10

Don't fire Pace and give him another year to absolutely obliterate the franchise from the inside. Can't wait to see what they give up for a dude who was HORRIFIC all season

unnatural carnal knowledge. Me.

There was absolutely zero question Pace was going to do whatever it took to get the best QB out there (in his opinion) so there would be some chance at success next year so that he could keep his job.

Translate: Ownership gave Pace the ability to screw-over the future of the franchise in order to keep his own job. They permitted a culture of individual>team.

JWags85

There are rumors that the Raiders wanna gun for Watson so Carr would be available. If the Bears were in that sweepstakes, I would get it. I don't love Carr but he's played at a high level recently and just had a nice season.

Wentz, for any meaningful value like they are reporting the Eagles want, is just...wow

Jockey

Jim Leonard to GB? He's the heir apparent in Madison, but I don't see Chryst leaving for quite a while.

CreightonWarrior

Yikes, Britt Reid, Andy Reid's kid, hit a couple vehicles, one of which had run out of gas in KC last night. Life threatening injuries to one kid, injuries to another. Admitted to having a few drinks. Not good.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30842264/kansas-city-chiefs-assistant-coach-britt-reid-involved-multi-car-crash-life-threatening-injuries

rocket surgeon

britt has a little history with "stuff" going back to 2007-2008 or so.  hope the victims, particularly the 5 year old is ok.  if that kid doesn't make it, britt's story is a whole lot different.  interesting they said britt's injuries were minimal but he is being holed up in a hospital some where.   

  odds are still kc -3/56
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

hairy worthen

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 05, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
I'm with 4ever.  Leonhard is a 3-4 guy who played in Pettine's system so he knows what the player's know.  He had a tremendous reputation in the league as a player and will likely be a college coach somewhere in the next couple of years if he wants to go in that direction. 

I am not saying he would be the best option.  I really don't know enough to know.  But I can certainly see why they would be interested.
Dont know much about Leonhard because I do not follow the Badgers. He does seem highly regarded. My concern is if you didnt like Pettine and his system, why would you hire a Pettine disciple who runs a variation of the same system?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jockey on February 05, 2021, 07:47:31 PM
Jim Leonard to GB? He's the heir apparent in Madison, but I don't see Chryst leaving for quite a while.

He turned down the Packers, so now you know where he has thrown his lot.

The Sultan

Quote from: hairy worthen on February 06, 2021, 07:49:16 AM
Dont know much about Leonhard because I do not follow the Badgers. He does seem highly regarded. My concern is if you didnt like Pettine and his system, why would you hire a Pettine disciple who runs a variation of the same system?

Maybe LaFleur doesn't think the system was the problem. Calls and execution were.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

CreightonWarrior

Looks like Packers are going with Rams LB coach Joe Barry, per Demovsky

Jockey


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