Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?

[vogue65]

You forgot Hiroshima!

I  was two, but you are correct, a game changer for sure.

[Galway Eagle]

Where does the invention of the internet rank on this impactful events scale?  Seems like it's done as much harm as good.

[vogue65]

Vogue,

I like posters with some perspective.  I may not agree with you on everything but appreciate how your numerous lifetime experiences formed your thought processes and perspectives. Keep being you.

Thanks, it took a couple of shrinks to convince me that it was O.K. being me.   The system is set up for a certain way of thinking.  My wife is a Doctor with organized, logical, scientific thinking.

Anyone remember Dr. Simmons, The Scientific Art of Logic?  I got an F, had to repeat it with another teacher, I got a D and could have cared less.  I got the requirement.

Today I can perform inside the box, but outside is more fun.  Scoop can be way outside the box although most people think Scoop is mainstream.

Thanks again.

[vogue65]

Where does the invention of the internet rank on this impactful events scale?  Seems like it's done as much harm as good.

It has not fundamentally changed much.  It is faster and more anonymous with easier collaborating, but it's just data storage like a library and communication like a telaphone.  It is same, same but much faster.

Did you read the brouhaha here about fads?  I find it hard to seperate out fads from evolutions and  transformative events.



I have had 5 Weber grills, they have changed and improved, but it's still a grill and it cooks my steak.

[vogue65]

I agree that, like Vietnam, COVID is an historic event that will be talked about for decades - probably centuries - to come.

But I still want to know how Kevin Bacon fits into all this.

Very funny, sad to say my movie knowledge is pathetic.  Hay, you can't do everything.
I get an education around here all the time.

[Loose Cannon]

Vogue,

I like posters with some perspective.  I may not agree with you on everything but appreciate how your numerous lifetime experiences formed your thought processes and perspectives. Keep being you.

Seconded.

[The Big East]

It has not fundamentally changed much.  It is faster and more anonymous with easier collaborating, but it's just data storage like a library and communication like a telaphone.  It is same, same but much faster.

Did you read the brouhaha here about fads?  I find it hard to seperate out fads from evolutions and  transformative events.



I have had 5 Weber grills, they have changed and improved, but it's still a grill and it cooks my steak.

The faster transmission of information had compressed decision cycles . Social anonymity Creates a vehicle for enhanced tension .


Paradigm changing advancements
1. Jet Planes
2. Air Conditioning
3. Internet
4. Interstate System

[vogue65]

The faster transmission of information had compressed decision cycles . Social anonymity Creates a vehicle for enhanced tension .


Paradigm changing advancements
1. Jet Planes
2. Air Conditioning
3. Internet
4. Interstate System

Interesting list.

I flew from New York to Milwaukee on D.C. 7's, then the turboprop Electra, then the 707.
Now New York to Europe on 767 or 777.  New York  to Milwaukee on a small Ebinar jet.  Faster, but cramped.

Not much really changed except larger, faster, higher and longer range.  Along with smaller seats, fewer toilets per passenger, and biger airport's.   

Air Conditioning was a big deal.  Closed down local dairies, created the frozen food industry, moved the population south, you are right, a true paradigm shift.

The interstate road system redefined America.   It hurt the rail industry, and made Walmart possible, big change.   Again faster point to point truck delivery.  Just in time, etc.  Looks like paradigm can simply mean faster.  The interstate mostly effected transportation.

I don't think that just because an industry evolves we have a paradigm shift.  I'd say Air Conditioning is the bigest true paradigm shift.  It created a new technology, and had widespread impact.

I'm just playing mind games with myself.  Easier to say all change is a paradigm shift of sorts.

[brewcity77]

I'd argue the 24-hour news cycle coupled with overturning the equal time doctrine. This, along with the CNN coverage of Desert Storm, moved news from being a source of information to just another ratings/marketing ploy. The consequence has changed our government from being built on compromise to strict, unwavering tribalism.

[Heisenberg]

Let's try and steer this back to college football.

Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren has led the effort to cancel the fall football season.  He has repeatedly said it is unsafe to play.

His son is Powers Warren.  He is a redshirt junior tight end at Mississippi State.

He began practice this week and will play this fall.

I'm sure Kevin is very proud of him and looks forward to watching him play.

https://www.outkick.com/big-ten-commissioners-son-is-playing-at-mississippi-state-this-fall/

[The Sultan]

Warren is rightfully getting a lot of flak over how the Big Ten has handled this situation.

But he works for the Presidents.  It was them who decided to shut down the season.  And it was them who are hanging their commissioner out to dry.  Granted a more experienced guy like Jim Delaney would not have let that happen, but no one really seems to be calling out the B10 presidents.

[vogue65]

Let's try and steer this back to college football.

Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren has led the effort to cancel the fall football season.  He has repeatedly said it is unsafe to play.

His son is Powers Warren.  He is a redshirt junior tight end at Mississippi State.

He began practice this week and will play this fall.

I'm sure Kevin is very proud of him and looks forward to watching him play.

https://www.outkick.com/big-ten-commissioners-son-is-playing-at-mississippi-state-this-fall/

Let's try and get away from irrevelant details and talk about tectonic change.
Are we talking about a game here or there, a coach, a commissioners news release or as one has broached, a paradigm shift?

Are we living thru a blip or will college sports change from now forward?

For example, will there ever again be in person political conventions?

One season does not make for tectonic (the real topic) change.  Or does it?

[Uncle Rico]

In no world is college football "essential"

[The Big East]

In no world is college football "essential"

Depends on what world your are from ....
1. Tuscaloosa
2. Tallahasse
3. South Bend
4. Lincoln
5. Baton Rouge
6 . Etc

[GooooMarquette]

Depends on what world your are from ....
1. Tuscaloosa
2. Tallahasse
3. South Bend
4. Lincoln
5. Baton Rouge
6 . Etc

Interesting how most of those places have COVID numbers that are off the charts....

[Uncle Rico]

Depends on what world your are from ....
1. Tuscaloosa
2. Tallahasse
3. South Bend
4. Lincoln
5. Baton Rouge
6 . Etc

That's a cultural problem

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

In no world is college football "essential"

I agree with your point in general. However the decision to cancel football impacts more than just greedy schools trying to make millions. Football generates revenue that goes to funding all aspects of the university. Without it, thousands of people will lose their jobs, academic programs will get cut, financial aid will get cut, the decision has a very far reaching impact. Bill School once said that Marquette basketball generated $7 for every $1 the university spent on it. Most of that money goes back into supporting the university, not lining its pockets. I'd imagine football has an even bigger impact on football schools than basketball does here.

[Uncle Rico]

I agree with your point in general. However the decision to cancel football impacts more than just greedy schools trying to make millions. Football generates revenue that goes to funding all aspects of the university. Without it, thousands of people will lose their jobs, academic programs will get cut, financial aid will get cut, the decision has a very far reaching impact. Bill School once said that Marquette basketball generated $7 for every $1 the university spent on it. Most of that money goes back into supporting the university, not lining its pockets. I'd imagine football has an even bigger impact on football schools than basketball does here.

I'm aware of the economic impact college football games have in general.  Restaurants and bars are pandemic spreaders.  If they play college football with full stadiums, partial stadiums, 1/4 filled stadiums, we already know the results.  Universities made their bed with the devil.  The bill always comes due

[Shooter McGavin]

I agree with your point in general. However the decision to cancel football impacts more than just greedy schools trying to make millions. Football generates revenue that goes to funding all aspects of the university. Without it, thousands of people will lose their jobs, academic programs will get cut, financial aid will get cut, the decision has a very far reaching impact. Bill School once said that Marquette basketball generated $7 for every $1 the university spent on it. Most of that money goes back into supporting the university, not lining its pockets. I'd imagine football has an even bigger impact on football schools than basketball does here.

I agree with you.  But it's interesting how this is the exact argument for those concerned about diverting money away from the universities to pay student athletes more than they already get.

[Uncle Rico]

I agree with you.  But it's interesting how this is the exact argument for those concerned about diverting money away from the universities to pay student athletes more than they already get.

Further proves the value of the student athlete is far greater than simply a scholarship

[Shooter McGavin]

Further proves the value of the student athlete is far greater than simply a scholarship

Chicken or the egg.  What comes first.  Plenty of semipro leagues to play in but these kids choose colleges with built in fan bases to show their wares and get a first class education.  Can't get something for nothing.

It's not as black and white as you think. 

[Uncle Rico]

Chicken or the egg.  What comes first.  Plenty of semipro leagues to play in but these kids choose colleges with built in fan bases to show their wares and get a first class education.  Can't get something for nothing.

It's not as black and white as you think.

Maybe not, but the work has turned and universities are terrified

[Shooter McGavin]

Agreed. Universities should be terrified.  Hell TAMU and others who work at Universities should be terrified. There is not an unlimited supply of money as some people think. 

[Dawson Rental]

We are taking about Nebraska

The "N" on their helmet stands for knowledge.

[Dawson Rental]

Vogue,

I like posters with some perspective.  I may not agree with you on everything but appreciate how your numerous lifetime experiences formed your thought processes and perspectives. Keep being you.

+1
It's easy enough to move on if you don't like it.