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Warriors4ever

Of course they were smiling because as everyone knows, Florida has no cases......
I've been to the Trop. I don't care what the circumstances are, it's not glorious.....

pacearrow02

Quote from: rocky_warrior on June 07, 2021, 12:24:19 PM
Not shocking, but good confirmation:

COVID-19 positivity rate is lowest among those who always wore a mask

Surprised to see that number so high honestly, 11% still tested positive after social distancing and wearing a mask religiously but only 23% tested positive who did neither? 

And wasn't the whole social distancing thing proven recently to be a waste of time since the virus was airborne and not primarily passed via respiratory droplets?

cheebs09

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on June 08, 2021, 01:05:44 PM
Surprised to see that number so high honestly, 11% still tested positive after social distancing and wearing a mask religiously but only 23% tested positive who did neither? 

And wasn't the whole social distancing thing proven recently to be a waste of time since the virus was airborne and not primarily passed via respiratory droplets?

Not entirely surprising. I would consider myself a religious mask wearer and was mostly a hermit, but still did things that put me at risk. Looking back, there were a few events I'd probably do differently. We were just lucky others weren't positive.

I'm guessing people probably say they were being super cautious, but then you hear the same people say they went to a friends house or went out to dinner, but took all the precautions. It's human nature and I'm guilty of doing that. I don't think anyone could completely take the risk away. I'd say cutting your odds in half is pretty significant.

cheebs09

Curious Scoopers thoughts on this one. Our daycare just removed masks being mandatory for everyone in the center, regardless of vaccination status. Our daughter is under a year and it makes me a bit nervous an unvaccinated teacher could be caring for her without a mask.

Anyone else have daycares doing similar things?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 10, 2021, 09:41:12 PM
Curious Scoopers thoughts on this one. Our daycare just removed masks being mandatory for everyone in the center, regardless of vaccination status. Our daughter is under a year and it makes me a bit nervous an unvaccinated teacher could be caring for her without a mask.

Anyone else have daycares doing similar things?

I wouldn't like it if it was my child at daycare.  But then I look at the current infection rates in WI, and hope that we can continue our trend.

Definitely a hard place you've been put in.  You could always just ask the staff if they've been vaccinated.  Anyone with a strong negative response or "I don't have to tell you" is probably not.  Likely a reasonable way to judge compliance within the facility without stepping on too many toes.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 10, 2021, 09:41:12 PM
Curious Scoopers thoughts on this one. Our daycare just removed masks being mandatory for everyone in the center, regardless of vaccination status. Our daughter is under a year and it makes me a bit nervous an unvaccinated teacher could be caring for her without a mask.

Anyone else have daycares doing similar things?

Agree, you should be concerned.  If I were you, I'd see if I could grab the attention of other parents at the daycare.   Get a 'union' together with the simple decree:  Vaccinate all workers or we're leaving.

MUfan12

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 10, 2021, 09:41:12 PM
Curious Scoopers thoughts on this one. Our daycare just removed masks being mandatory for everyone in the center, regardless of vaccination status. Our daughter is under a year and it makes me a bit nervous an unvaccinated teacher could be caring for her without a mask.

Anyone else have daycares doing similar things?

So this is interesting... MU's child care center is still requiring everyone to wear masks, including kids 3 and up because of what their state licensor is asking of them.

I'm honestly not thrilled that they're requiring kids that young to wear them, but hey, at least they get to take them off outside after wearing them in 90 degree weather last week...

cheebs09

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on June 11, 2021, 10:35:04 AM
Agree, you should be concerned.  If I were you, I'd see if I could grab the attention of other parents at the daycare.   Get a 'union' together with the simple decree:  Vaccinate all workers or we're leaving.

Looks like many other parents had the same thought as we just got the email reversing the decision.

MUFan12, I agree. Ours is 5 and up for masks, but don't believe they need them outside. Nor should they in my opinion.

MU Fan in Connecticut

My daughters work a summer camp in our hometown in Connecticut.  Kids up to Grade 6.
Last year the counselors had to wear masks but the kids did not.  This summer both kids and counselors need to wear masks even though they and the other counselors they know are already vaccinated.

MU82

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 11, 2021, 02:29:05 PM
My daughters work a summer camp in our hometown in Connecticut.  Kids up to Grade 6.
Last year the counselors had to wear masks but the kids did not.  This summer both kids and counselors need to wear masks even though they and the other counselors they know are already vaccinated.

That seems over the top, something the camp is doing for appearances.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: MU82 on June 12, 2021, 07:20:48 AM
That seems over the top, something the camp is doing for appearances.

My kids shrug it off.  We had to wear to work last year, well just do it again this year.

The Sultan

I have now gone two straight weeks without wearing a mask anywhere.  Always have it with me when I go to the store or out to eat, but no one is requiring it for people who are vaccinated like me.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jsglow

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 13, 2021, 08:37:54 AM
I have now gone two straight weeks without wearing a mask anywhere.  Always have it with me when I go to the store or out to eat, but no one is requiring it for people who are vaccinated like me.

Trying to remember my last time wearing one. I'm thinking it was doctor's office around May 21st. I think I wore one about 4-5 times back in May including early month trips to Costco and Menards when it was still policy.  I don't have a flight scheduled for about 2 months.  At my advanced age, I give myself a 50% chance to forget one on the way to the airport!  ::)

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 13, 2021, 08:37:54 AM
I have now gone two straight weeks without wearing a mask anywhere.  Always have it with me when I go to the store or out to eat, but no one is requiring it for people who are vaccinated like me.

I've been a week. I had to wear one to my daughter's graduation last Sunday. Aside from that, it's been a couple weeks.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

pbiflyer

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 13, 2021, 08:37:54 AM
I have now gone two straight weeks without wearing a mask anywhere.  Always have it with me when I go to the store or out to eat, but no one is requiring it for people who are vaccinated like me.

It is a strange new world we live in. I just had my first plane trip since covid. Masks obviously required. Same for Uber/Lyft trips. But then I was in crowded bars, casinos, and other venues. No mask. 
Was interesting to see the social distancing spots still in place, yet no masks required.

Wish more people would get jabbed though.

The Sultan

I predicted back in May that the mask requirements for airports and airplanes would be dropped by July 4.  I don't think that looks like a good prediction now.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

pbiflyer

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 15, 2021, 08:52:23 AM
I predicted back in May that the mask requirements for airports and airplanes would be dropped by July 4.  I don't think that looks like a good prediction now.

I am not sure you will be that far off. But likely airports/airplanes and medical facilities will be the last places they are required.
Actually, I was happy I had a mask on in the plane. Guy next to me was coughing up a lung the entire flight. Maybe I won't get sick.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: pbiflyer on June 15, 2021, 09:38:04 AM
I am not sure you will be that far off. But likely airports/airplanes and medical facilities will be the last places they are required.
Actually, I was happy I had a mask on in the plane. Guy next to me was coughing up a lung the entire flight. Maybe I won't get sick.

Add all public transportation to that and you've got a bingo

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 15, 2021, 08:52:23 AM
I predicted back in May that the mask requirements for airports and airplanes would be dropped by July 4.  I don't think that looks like a good prediction now.

I'm flying to Mexico in 10 days, I'll be bringing multiple masks and mints for the flights. My buddy warned me about mask breath during long flights.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Lens

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 16, 2021, 02:32:49 PM
I'm flying to Mexico in 10 days, I'll be bringing multiple masks and mints for the flights. My buddy warned me about mask breath during long flights.

I'm all for masks on flights and have worn on two separate trips to FLA.  But it's kind of ridiculous that they keep serving drinks and all of a sudden the entire plane is de-masked, eating pretzels and drinking.   I usually waited.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

JWags85

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 16, 2021, 12:09:08 PM
Add all public transportation to that and you've got a bingo

I give it about 3 months post-full mask restriction lifting on all forms of travel before seeing a mask is a rarity.

As for flights, I've specifically been holding off  on booking a few longer flights till I get a better sense for masking on flights being lifted.  It is what it is for like a 2 hour flight from Midwest out east, but I was on a 3.5 hour flight and by the end it was getting pretty annoying.  A trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific flight in a mask sounds like absolute hell.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: JWags85 on June 16, 2021, 04:36:40 PM
I give it about 3 months post-full mask restriction lifting on all forms of travel before seeing a mask is a rarity.

As for flights, I've specifically been holding off  on booking a few longer flights till I get a better sense for masking on flights being lifted.  It is what it is for like a 2 hour flight from Midwest out east, but I was on a 3.5 hour flight and by the end it was getting pretty annoying.  A trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific flight in a mask sounds like absolute hell.

Yeah, I'm guessing Labor day... or July 4th if we can get our vaccination numbers up.

MU82

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 16, 2021, 05:08:47 PM
Yeah, I'm guessing Labor day... or July 4th if we can get our vaccination numbers up.

By Labor Day, we'll be hearing about the need for booster shots.

My wife and her fellow RNs, who received their vaccinations in January, already are being told that September is a likely timeline for boosters; lots of talk for them about getting their annual flu shots at the same time.

Given how the vaccine went over like a lead balloon for an unfortunately large swath of American society, just trying to imagine how well booster shots will go over.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Warriors4ever

Dr. Murphy on WGN just said this morning that the preliminary data looking out  six months and longer is looking pretty good, it was in response to a question from someone who was in a Moderna trial last September/October worried that the vaccine has worn off. He didn't tell the questioner to run out and get a booster shot, which is good news so far. Though it might be simpler to combine boosters if they think they might be needed with a flu shot.

Hards Alumni

https://www.channel3000.com/mmsd-shares-covid-19-safety-plan-for-2021-22-school-year/?alert=2660940&alert_type=banner

Key practices from the plan include the following:

    Masks will be required for students and staff while inside school buildings and on buses
    No masks required during outdoor activities or while eating or drinking
    Maintaining a minimum three feet of physical distancing (when possible) for all individuals
    Scheduled cleaning of district buildings throughout the day
    Following practices of proper handwashing, respiratory etiquette and monitoring symptoms

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