Jon Rothstein Big East Offseason Breakdown

[geps]

https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/big-east-offseason-breakdown/

Picks MU 7th with Carton.

[TedBaxter]

He forgot Torrence.

I like Marquette to surprise this year.  Some guys on the bench will shine at times.

[D'Lo Brown]

I think we're gonna do swimmingly, tied for 1st at worst. And at best.

[Its DJOver]

Don't get the Providence love.  They return three solid proven players, but they lost 5 Seniors.  They'll be relying heavily on Horchler, who is unproven at this level, and Bynum who is smaller than Markus and doesn't have nearly the shooting that Markus had.  Then their bench consists of two players that combined for 11 games last year before season ending injuries, a player that averaged 2 ppg, and 2 Freshman ranked in the 2 and 3 hundreds.  Considering they were in the 7-10 range before losing Diallo, Pipkins, Young, White and Holt, I just don't see them with a top 4 finish.

[GooooMarquette]

I think we're gonna do swimmingly, tied for 1st at worst. And at best.

Unfortunately, I agree.

[bilsu]

Don't get the Providence love.  They return three solid proven players, but they lost 5 Seniors.  They'll be relying heavily on Horchler, who is unproven at this level, and Bynum who is smaller than Markus and doesn't have nearly the shooting that Markus had.  Then their bench consists of two players that combined for 11 games last year before season ending injuries, a player that averaged 2 ppg, and 2 Freshman ranked in the 2 and 3 hundreds.  Considering they were in the 7-10 range before losing Diallo, Pipkins, Young, White and Holt, I just don't see them with a top 4 finish.

It is called coaching.

[Golden Avalanche]

It is called coaching.

Nah. It's more personal. The media that covers the Big East loves Big Ed and they should. Good guy and dynamite personality.

He's a .500 coach in conference. .500 coach in post-season. Thoroughly average all around except for those magical 72 hours at MSG in March 2014. Along with being relatable that's all it takes to get the benefit of the doubt.

[The Sultan]

It is called coaching.

I guess I don't understand this.  Ed Cooley built up Providence from nowhere.  But really hasn't done much of significance the last few years.  I can't really say definitively that he's a better coach than Wojo.

[GooooMarquette]

It is called coaching.

So the guy with a career .596 winning percentage (.512 in the BE) and 1 NCAA win in 14  seasons is really better than Wojo, who has a .587 winning percentage (all in the BE) in six seasons?

[ATL MU Warrior]

Yeah, I don't get the Ed Cooley lovefest around here. 

[Its DJOver]

Nah. It's more personal. The media that covers the Big East loves Big Ed and they should. Good guy and dynamite personality.

He's a .500 coach in conference. .500 coach in post-season. Thoroughly average all around except for those magical 72 hours at MSG in March 2014. Along with being relatable that's all it takes to get the benefit of the doubt.

Also think people like that his teams play more of an old school gritty defense first brand of ball that the conference is famous for, rather than the 5 out 3-fest that the game is heading towards.  The thing is though, that you really need big athletic guards in order for that style to be effective.  If you're swapping 6'-7" Alpha Diallo and 6'-3" Maliek White for 5'-10" Jared Bynum, that style of ball won't be as effective.

[Uncle Rico]

Also think people like that his teams play more of an old school gritty defense first brand of ball that the conference is famous for, rather than the 5 out 3-fest that the game is heading towards.  The thing is though, that you really need big athletic guards in order for that style to be effective.  If you're swapping 6'-7" Alpha Diallo and 6'-3" Maliek White for 5'-10" Jared Bynum, that style of ball won't be as effective.

Providence's offense has been terrible the last half decade

[Herman Cain]

https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/big-east-offseason-breakdown/

Picks MU 7th with Carton.

The analysis on each team was well done.

Cooley & Company was probably a bit over rated . Their transfers are moving up a couple of conferences , how they perform at the Big East level remains to be seen.

The Johnnies look bad on paper , they do have a lot of depth which gives them the ability to press all game long. 

[bilsu]

I think Cooley teams have generally performed better than expected. That certainly was the case last year.

[Galway Eagle]

I think Cooley teams have generally performed better than expected. That certainly was the case last year.

In conference sure but they were abysmal in noncon

[bilsu]

In conference sure but they were abysmal in noncon

His teams improve during the season, while MU seems to tank.

[Eldon]

He forgot Torrence.

I like Marquette to surprise this year.  Some guys on the bench will shine at times.

Maybe he didn't...

[Badgerhater]

When I (hopefully) make my annual BET trip I can plan on attending the Wednesday night games.   

[lawdog77]

For how long has Jamal Cain been a guard?

[DFW HOYA]

In conference sure but they were abysmal in noncon

So does Michigan State some years. You want a team that finishes strong.

[The Sultan]

So does Michigan State some years. You want a team that finishes strong.

That's why Cooley has a grand total of one NCAA tournament win in nine years at Providence.

[ATL MU Warrior]

So does Michigan State some years. You want a team that finishes strong.

You also want a team, especially a very experienced team that returns almost everything from prior season, to not suck at the beginning of the season. I don't understand why he gets a pass for that. 

[Galway Eagle]

So does Michigan State some years. You want a team that finishes strong.

Michigan state usually has one of the toughest noncon schedules in the country providence lost to a bunch of absolute crap.

[GooooMarquette]

So does Michigan State some years. You want a team that finishes strong.

Yes you do...but Cooley's teams peak in late February. To me, 'finishing strong' means playing well into mid-March (see Michigan State).

[brewcity77]

You also want a team, especially a very experienced team that returns almost everything from prior season, to not suck at the beginning of the season. I don't understand why he gets a pass for that.

I was high on Cooley & PC going into last year but that non-con start was really disappointing. They seem like that team that gets right to the edge of being good but can't really get over the hump.

They always have some terrible stretches and always seem to lose to some inexplicably bad teams. For example, Big East tourney teams since 2014 are 65-9 against DePaul. Cooley accounts for a third of those losses. PC has 10 sub-100 non-con losses (4 sub-200!) in the past 6 years.

I'm starting to think he's a coach that just can't maximize his talent.