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Author Topic: HBCU and Recruiting  (Read 6164 times)

Billy Hoyle

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2020, 12:32:17 AM »
What, you still throwing up bricks? What is this, a Masons convention? Clank, clank! I need, like, a welding torch to play in this league! I got an idea, let's just stop right now and gather up all these bricks and let's build a shelter for the homeless so maybe your mother will have a place to stay

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2020, 06:15:41 AM »
Makur Maker chooses Howard over Kentucky, Memphis and UCLA amongst others
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2020, 07:53:08 AM »
Makur Maker chooses Howard over Kentucky, Memphis and UCLA amongst others

Imagine being a Howard fanatic and then all of a sudden you land a 5*
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2020, 08:10:11 AM »
Howard fanatic....I'm sure they exist, they just have never been seen by the public.
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2020, 11:23:35 AM »
Makur Maker chooses Howard over Kentucky, Memphis and UCLA amongst others
This is excellent news. Hope more players follow . 

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2020, 07:34:50 PM »
This is excellent news. Hope more players follow .

Howard was 4-29 in 2019-20, NET of 349 (out of 353), averaged 1,140 a game. Their top two scorers graduated.

Billy Hoyle

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2020, 11:44:54 PM »
Not that Howard would have big time athletics boosters but what are the odds someone or an organization (maybe a shoe company) made it worth Maker’s while to pick Howard?
What, you still throwing up bricks? What is this, a Masons convention? Clank, clank! I need, like, a welding torch to play in this league! I got an idea, let's just stop right now and gather up all these bricks and let's build a shelter for the homeless so maybe your mother will have a place to stay

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2020, 12:47:14 AM »
Not that Howard would have big time athletics boosters but what are the odds someone or an organization (maybe a shoe company) made it worth Maker’s while to pick Howard?

I'm going with zero. 

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2020, 06:39:45 AM »
Howard has a profile very similar to Marquette.  It's not like he's heading to Mississippi Valley State.
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2020, 11:16:20 AM »
Howard was 4-29 in 2019-20, NET of 349 (out of 353), averaged 1,140 a game. Their top two scorers graduated.

Makur probably figures with the two top scorers gone he has a chance to get meaningful minutes.
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2020, 01:09:11 PM »
Howard has a profile very similar to Marquette.  It's not like he's heading to Mississippi Valley State.

Yep.  It and Spelman are generally considered to be the top HBCU schools academically.  And Spelman is women-only, so.....
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2020, 04:25:59 PM »
Howard has a profile very similar to Marquette.  It's not like he's heading to Mississippi Valley State.

one of my best friends at MU (and senior year roommate) was headed to Howard. Then he went up for their version of "Preview." He and some others were stuck in the airport for two hours as the school forgot to pick them up. By the time they got to campus they couldn't go out because the gates were locked due to the neighborhood around campus at the time being so rough. He made the switch to MU a few days later.
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What, you still throwing up bricks? What is this, a Masons convention? Clank, clank! I need, like, a welding torch to play in this league! I got an idea, let's just stop right now and gather up all these bricks and let's build a shelter for the homeless so maybe your mother will have a place to stay

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2020, 03:21:24 PM »
one of my best friends at MU (and senior year roommate) was headed to Howard. Then he went up for their version of "Preview." He and some others were stuck in the airport for two hours as the school forgot to pick them up. By the time they got to campus they couldn't go out because the gates were locked due to the neighborhood around campus at the time being so rough. He made the switch to MU a few days later.


To be fair, many top-tier schools are in bad neighborhoods. Columbia and UChicago are incredible schools in neighborhoods that have fluctuated between so-so and pretty bad over the past few decades. Case Western is a great school in a downright scary part of Cleveland. Even the neighborhood around MU was dramatically worse in the 70s and 80s than it is today.

I certainly don't fault your friend for making the choice he did, but the point stands that Howard is a very good school. The daughter of a friend went there for undergrad and law school, and now is a very respected professor at U of Minnesota Law School.

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2020, 03:32:47 PM »

To be fair, many top-tier schools are in bad neighborhoods. Columbia and UChicago are incredible schools in neighborhoods that have fluctuated between so-so and pretty bad over the past few decades. Case Western is a great school in a downright scary part of Cleveland. Even the neighborhood around MU was dramatically worse in the 70s and 80s than it is today.

Are you sure about Case Western?  I have a friend who is a professor there and he lives within a few blocks of campus. 
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2020, 04:36:09 PM »
Howard has a profile very similar to Marquette.  It's not like he's heading to Mississippi Valley State.

This isn't accurate. Marquette is a superior academic institution by general academic benchmarks (as supplied by federal Department of Education).

Marquette ACT quartiles: 24-29
Howard ACT quartiles: 22-27

Marquette retention and graduation rates: 87%, 84%
Howard retention and graduation rates: 85%, 65%

Marquette acceptance rate: 83%
Howard acceptance rate: 36%

Those numbers aren't dramatically different (and Howard clearly receives more applications), but by these measures, Marquette is a better school. That said, Howard is an excellent school that serves a different mandate than Marquette.

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2020, 04:39:33 PM »
I believe I was just a few blocks from the Howard campus a couple years ago.  I think it's called the Shaw District, Area or Neighborhood.

Reminded me more of the area around DePaul that is being bought up and remodeled with expensive homes.

There still could be some sketchy areas bordering the campus, but it appeared quite affluent where I was.
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2020, 04:40:06 PM »
Are you sure about Case Western?  I have a friend who is a professor there and he lives within a few blocks of campus.


A friend's daughter just graduated from there, and her mom said students were frequently warned not to leave the immediate campus alone.

Maybe there's a nice neighborhood just abutting the campus in one direction, but everything the students need is in the other directions? Not sure about the specifics, just going on what our friend has told us.

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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2020, 04:42:30 PM »
I think I was just a few blocks from the Howard campus a couple years ago.

Reminded me more of the area around DePaul that is being bought up and remodeled with expensive homes.

There still could be some sketchy areas bordering the campus, but it appeared quite affluent where I was.

Uh...the whole neighborhood around depaul is pretty pricey. It's pretty much been "bought up" already. Unfortunately for them, me and my 2br condo are slummy holdouts preventing their $3MM super homes.
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2020, 04:47:57 PM »
I just googled the Shaw Neighborhood and it borders Howard.   The average home price is $731 per foot.  So for $800,000 you can get an 1100 s/f revamped mini-Victorian.
There also is a region nearby called Little Ethiopia. 
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2020, 09:49:08 PM »
I just googled the Shaw Neighborhood and it borders Howard.   The average home price is $731 per foot.  So for $800,000 you can get an 1100 s/f revamped mini-Victorian.
There also is a region nearby called Little Ethiopia.

If Little Ethiopia is bordered by Little Somalia that could explain the warnings.
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Re: HBCU and Recruiting
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2020, 09:22:31 AM »
Makur makur staying at Howard

 

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