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panda

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 14, 2020, 08:16:44 PM
Pretty sure your interpretation is skewed. You cannot take an officer's weapon. Should the armed officer be tased, he would have been incapacitated and potentially his weapon could have been taken from him and used against him by the subject. A grand jury, if called, will see the suspect clearly resisted and engaged the officers when attempting to cuff him. Bad things can happen in this scenario and that's the choice the subject made at the moment.

Expect there was another cop there....
Except a taser isn't a deadly weapon....

But you're right - He had it coming. Shoot him three times in the back just to make sure!

4everwarriors

Trump, that bastard, made him do did it, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 14, 2020, 08:16:44 PM
Pretty sure your interpretation is skewed. You cannot take an officer's weapon. Should the armed officer be tased, he would have been incapacitated and potentially his weapon could have been taken from him and used against him by the subject. A grand jury, if called, will see the suspect clearly resisted and engaged the officers when attempting to cuff him. Bad things can happen in this scenario and that's the choice the subject made at the moment.

Again, he had a partner there. The partner can use his fun if the guy is able to stun the police officer and then reach for the stunned police officer's gun. Not that hard to comprehend, is it?

JWags85

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 14, 2020, 06:44:11 PM
i realize the dude just took the taser from the cops and i understand the taser should be readily identifiable, but do you assume in that split second, it was a taser being pointed at you?  what if the taser deploys, officer down, and then he takes his handgun?   lots of problems right there.

   too many decisions had to be made here that could have been avoided altogether if...

If you can't in a split second decipher that a BRIGHT YELLOW Taser pointed at you is not a gun, then you should probably taken off the beat cause your reactions and critical thinking are lacking for such a high pressure gig

reinko

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 14, 2020, 08:21:50 PM
Trump, that bastard, made him do did it, aina?

How dare you speak ill of the greatest POTUS of your lifetime like that?

The Sultan

#105
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 14, 2020, 08:16:44 PM
Pretty sure your interpretation is skewed. You cannot take an officer's weapon. Should the armed officer be tased, he would have been incapacitated and potentially his weapon could have been taken from him and used against him by the subject. A grand jury, if called, will see the suspect clearly resisted and engaged the officers when attempting to cuff him. Bad things can happen in this scenario and that's the choice the subject made at the moment.

No one is saying the victim didn't act stupidly. We are saying he shouldn't have been shot in the back and killed.

For a guy who has been against government overreach when it comes to shutting down for the pandemic, you certainly don't seem to mind when the government actually kills someone.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 14, 2020, 08:32:56 PM
No one is saying the victim didn't act stupidly. We are saying he shouldn't have been shot in the back and killed.

For a guy who has been against government overreach when it comes to shutting down for the pandemic, you certainly don't seem to mind when the government actually kills someone.

Agreed. The guy was stupid and should face consequences. He should be alive to face those consequences.

brewcity77

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 14, 2020, 08:16:44 PM
Pretty sure your interpretation is skewed. You cannot take an officer's weapon. Should the armed officer be tased, he would have been incapacitated and potentially his weapon could have been taken from him and used against him by the subject. A grand jury, if called, will see the suspect clearly resisted and engaged the officers when attempting to cuff him. Bad things can happen in this scenario and that's the choice the subject made at the moment.

You can what if any situation to the end of time, but the reality is the citizen was running away, pointing a non-lethal weapon in the vague direction of the officer. He was not a life threat by any stretch of the imagination and that did not warrant a use of lethal force.

The bad choice was made by the person who shot a fleeing man in the back.

MU82

Wow. Advocating for the cold-blooded murder of Americans who pose no imminent threat.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

withoutbias

Quote from: reinko on June 14, 2020, 08:30:38 PM
How dare you speak ill of the greatest POTUS of your lifetime like that?

Imagine 4never, guru, and rocketsurgeon if Joe Bidon walked down a ramp like this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/glamelegance/status/1272002799774154752

4everwarriors

In retrospect the police should have busted out in song. Perhaps the Supremes "Stop in the Name of Love" would've avoided the entire situation, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MU82

I only wish 4ever, guru, rocket, Ners and a few other Scoopers held police officers and the president of the United States to the same standards of job performance as they do the Marquette basketball coach.

If the latter only makes 3 NCAA tournaments in 4 years, he's an abject failure. There are no excuses for the putrid results on his watch. He is 100% at fault, and he has to go.

Plenty of excuses for cops murdering American citizens who posed no threat to them. The latest: Shooting a black man running away, one not armed with a lethal weapon? He had it coming!

And an endless string of a excuses for the POTUS who has seen at least 115K Americans die on his watch from a virus he downplayed for months; the economy tanking on his watch; Americans feeling they have no choice but to take to the streets to protest systemic racism, as well as the police brutality that he has openly encouraged; him responding to protests by threatening to have our military "dominate" American citizens, a threat so unethical and un-American that the Pentagon has rejected it; racists no longer needing hoods because they understand the obvious "go right ahead" signal from the President of the United States.

But hey, at least these killer cops and our racist, violence-inciting POTUS didn't have a player commit a foul in a tie game. That's the REAL tragedy that has befallen America in 2020.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Wow Mike, take a chill pill. I don't want your head to implode if and when he's reelected, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 15, 2020, 05:53:30 AM
In retrospect the police should have busted out in song. Perhaps the Supremes "Stop in the Name of Love" would've avoided the entire situation, aina?

In retrospect they should have chased after him, and if he got away, they have his car and his address so they can go arrest him later.  He was posing no imminent threat to the officers or the community.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 15, 2020, 07:14:44 AM
Wow Mike, take a chill pill. I don't want your head to implode if and when he's reelected, hey?

Attaboy, Doc. Perfect response.

Much better than answering why you expect excellence and no excuses from a college basketball coach but why you accept so very, very, very much less from police officers and the leader of the free world.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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