Anonymous Eagle Article

[willie warrior]

https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2020/5/26/21268886/marquette-golden-eagles-mens-basketball-head-coach-steve-wojciechowski-roster-turnover

Haven't seen this anywhere on Scoop. Must be that it is not acceptable to imply criticism of the wondrous one.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

It's a real problem.  Particularly if you subscribe to the theory of stability + getting old = being good.

[panda]

The player retention issue discussed is an issue but the real problem during the Wojo tenure has been developing and cultivating high school. Not enough development to establish any sort of program building blocks.

[Windyplayer]

https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2020/5/26/21268886/marquette-golden-eagles-mens-basketball-head-coach-steve-wojciechowski-roster-turnover

Haven't seen this anywhere on Scoop. Must be that it is not acceptable to imply criticism of the wondrous one.

Lol. Just post the link. You don't have to poison the well at go.

[tower912]

Yawn.

Have to go back to the Crean years to find the last time nobody transferred out.

Bailey didn't transfer, he went pro. 

The door swings both ways.

Over 800 transfers this year.   Statistically speaking, MU is trailing in out transfers by at least two this offseason.   

Blah, blah, blah, Wojo slurper.     Blah blah blah, driving everyone away.   Blah blah blah I knew he sucked before anyone else did.    Blah blah blah I don't trust MU's administration, but I know MU can do better.

[Billy Hoyle]

https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2020/5/26/21268886/marquette-golden-eagles-mens-basketball-head-coach-steve-wojciechowski-roster-turnover

Haven't seen this anywhere on Scoop. Must be that it is not acceptable to imply criticism of the wondrous one.

How does this compare nationally? Were there underlying issues leading to those transfers? Only half the story here.

[Herman Cain]

https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2020/5/26/21268886/marquette-golden-eagles-mens-basketball-head-coach-steve-wojciechowski-roster-turnover

Haven't seen this anywhere on Scoop. Must be that it is not acceptable to imply criticism of the wondrous one.

Wow. Anoymous Eagle, the designated Pro MU website, puts out a negative on Wojo research report. That speaks volumes.

[panda]

The article is slightly misguided. Transfers aren't the direct problem but they're certainly an issue as to why the program hasn't gotten out of first gear with Wojo. There isn't enough continuity with high school players to create building blocks for the program to improve year over year. The players who stay haven't developed much beyond role players.

[muguru]

The article is slightly misguided. Transfers aren't the direct problem but they're certainly an issue as to why the program hasn't gotten out of first gear with Wojo. There isn't enough continuity with high school players to create building blocks for the program to improve year over year. The players who stay haven't developed much beyond role players.

Which leads to the REAL issue...the talent overall simply hasn't been good enough. The reason they only developed into role players, is simple...because they were never meant to be or talented enough to be more than role players no matter how much they developed. Take this next year for example..should a kid like Jamal Cain really be a starter for a High Major program?? Absolutely not. A guy like Cain should be at best a 7th or 8th man. He gives great effort, he's been a great representative of the University, but by no means should he be a starter or even play a significant role, but he'll have to.

[WarriorDad]

Wow. Anoymous Eagle, the designated Pro MU website, puts out a negative on Wojo research report. That speaks volumes.

It isn't a designated Pro MU website and several of their contributors have been decidedly negative for some time with no real alternative answers, but complaining some of them do well.  Tired read. 

[BallBoy]

Yawn.

Have to go back to the Crean years to find the last time nobody transferred out.

Bailey didn't transfer, he went pro. 

The door swings both ways.

Over 800 transfers this year.   Statistically speaking, MU is trailing in out tranfers by at least two this offseason.   

Blah, blah, blah, Wojo slurper.     Blah blah blah, driving everyone away.   Blah blah blah I knew he sucked before anyone else did.    Blah blah blah I don't trust MU's administration, but I know MU can do better.

Agreed.

If you state something is a problem it needs a comparison to illustrate a why and that something is different. A simple google search will show that our last coach had 12 transfers when using the same criteria. Another google search will show a wanna-to-be sports blogger posting that those 12 transfers showed something wrong with Buzz. Another google search shows that Crean had 13 transfer in his time at Indiana which is probably similar to his time at MU.

Transfers are a Marquette issue not one coach issue.

Anything is fair game to complain about but at least back it up with data.

[The Sultan]

Wow. Anoymous Eagle, the designated Pro MU website, puts out a negative on Wojo research report. That speaks volumes.

They've been largely negative about Wojo for awhile.

[WhiteTrash]

They've been largely negative about Wojo for awhile.

I know someone who can chage that.

[Its DJOver]

Not really concerned with overall numbers, more focused on the quality of players leaving and why.  Hausergate has been beaten to death, so I'll focus on another.  I'm still fairly certain that the entire story never came out but Haani leaving low key hurt a lot.  He would have been a Senior on the 18-19 squad.  At a time when Koby was sitting out, Greg was redshirting, Chartouny couldn't cut it, and Markus was playing though an injury another 6-6 guard that scored 13 ppg his Senior year at a high major while hitting 34% from deep would have been a very nice commodity to have, and could have positively affected that end of season skid.  Never know how the roster would have turned out had he stayed, but...

[WarriorDad]

I know someone who can chage that.

In today's world, they would complain anyway.  Few people are happy and entitlement with fans is endless.  Win a few years, you only set yourself up for even more complaints because fans expect the mountain to be conquered.  My hope is when Wojo leaves we do not have a bunch of you pining for the days of Wojo, but that scenario is entirely possible.  We become a program that goes 10 to 20 years with maybe 2 or 3 appearances.  Today we only settle for a program that makes the NCAA tournament 75% of the time the last four years.  The nerve

[muguru]

In today's world, they would complain anyway.  Few people are happy and entitlement with fans is endless.  Win a few years, you only set yourself up for even more complaints because fans expect the mountain to be conquered.  My hope is when Wojo leaves we do not have a bunch of you pining for the days of Wojo, but that scenario is entirely possible.  We become a program that goes 10 to 20 years with maybe 2 or 3 appearances.  Today we only settle for a program that makes the NCAA tournament 75% of the time the last four years.  The nerve

You realize Wojo has a losing BE record right?? How in the hell do you justify that?? You can't. Period. It's not like this is the old BE where it's the best conference ever assembled(in which BTW MU won a conference champ). MU should at MINIMUM be finishing in the top 3-4 of the Big East every year. Period. I didn't say win it(so don't put words in my mouth), I said top 3-4(with BE titles sprinkled in). Compared to the rest of the schools in the BE currently, the fact that MU hasn't done that, is a HUGE indictment on the program.

[WhiteTrash]

In today's world, they would complain anyway.  Few people are happy and entitlement with fans is endless.  Win a few years, you only set yourself up for even more complaints because fans expect the mountain to be conquered.  My hope is when Wojo leaves we do not have a bunch of you pining for the days of Wojo, but that scenario is entirely possible.  We become a program that goes 10 to 20 years with maybe 2 or 3 appearances.  Today we only settle for a program that makes the NCAA tournament 75% of the time the last four years.  The nerve

Look, I get that Wojo isn't horrible.  He's good. I also recognize that the 10 or 11 seed this year would have been 3 out of 4. I also recognize we will not be in next year. 3 of 7 years is good,  not great.

My opinion means squat. Look at his contract situation then tell me MU is sold on him.

[WarriorDad]

You realize Wojo has a losing BE record right?? How in the hell do you justify that?? You can't. Period. It's not like this is the old BE where it's the best conference ever assembled(in which BTW MU won a conference champ). MU should at MINIMUM be finishing in the top 3-4 of the Big East every year. Period. I didn't say win it(so don't put words in my mouth), I said top 3-4(with BE titles sprinkled in). Compared to the rest of the schools in the BE currently, the fact that MU hasn't done that, is a HUGE indictment on the program.

Yes, because of his first year with a total rebuild.  Take out his rookie year without his players, and he has a winning Big East record. 

[WarriorDad]

Look, I get that Wojo isn't horrible.  He's good. I also recognize that the 10 or 11 seed this year would have been 3 out of 4. I also recognize we will not be in next year. 3 of 7 years is good,  not great.

My opinion means squat. Look at his contract situation then tell me MU is sold on him.

I remember Hards Alumni saying we would not make even the NIT.  He was wrong.  Does anyone know if we will make the tournament this year, but you do?  I prefer to wait and see before establishing that in May.

Who is coming here? Who is buying him out?  Why is the new guy staying?

[muguru]

Yes, because of his first year with a total rebuild.  Take out his rookie year without his players, and he has a winning Big East record.

Semantics...but regardless, he has a less than stellar BE record. Again, MU should finish top 3-4 every year. That's not having unrealistic explanations, that's not embellishing or asking for too much. That's just reality a program like MU's should be top 3-4 every year in conference.

[panda]

Semantics...but regardless, he has a less than stellar BE record. Again, MU should finish top 3-4 every year. That's not having unrealistic explanations, that's not embellishing or asking for too much. That's just reality a program like MU's should be top 3-4 every year in conference.

Wojo has done a great job of unintentionally lowering a segment of the fan bases expectations.

[#UnleashSean]

Yawn.

Have to go back to the Crean years to find the last time nobody transferred out.

Bailey didn't transfer, he went pro. 

Come on, how many players under Crean or Buzz transferred that were actual high calibre solid players and not people playing 2 steps too far up?

And Bailey transferring/going pro is still a player leaving early. It doesn't help the program.

[wadesworld]

Come on, how many players under Crean or Buzz transferred that were actual high calibre solid players and not people playing 2 steps too far up?

And Bailey transferring/going pro is still a player leaving early. It doesn't help the program.

Probably about 2 each. Or roughly the same amount as Buzz and Crean.

[#UnleashSean]

Look, I get that Wojo isn't horrible.  He's good. I also recognize that the 10 or 11 seed this year would have been 3 out of 4. I also recognize we will not be in next year. 3 of 7 years is good,  not great.

My opinion means squat. Look at his contract situation then tell me MU is sold on him.

3 out of 7 years at MU is not good. It's a failure. This isn't 1989 Marquette. This is a Marquette that made the tournament (starting from 2001) 10 out of 13 times. Wojo has already missed that mark as many times in 6 years.

[muguru]

3 out of 7 years at MU is not good. It's a failure. This isn't 1989 Marquette. This is a Marquette that made the tournament (starting from 2001) 10 out of 13 times. Wojo has already missed that mark as many times in 6 years.

Thank you! You just won the internet today..there's nothing more that needs to be said about this. You know what else Wojo has done in 6 years?? Lost to DePaul 6 times..pathetic