no California teams at least for 1st semester of college basketball season?

[Marquetteauburn]

I'm just putting 2 and 2 together here - but if the NCAA said recently they could not see having sports unless students were back on campus, and the California system announced today students will not be back on campus in the fall (just on-line) am I right to conclude that at very least California teams will not be playing the coming season?

I just caught snippets of both while working, anyone please jump into correct me. Could also be just UCLA, Cal etc out, but St. Mary's and private schools could play?

[muguru]

I'm just putting 2 and 2 together here - but if the NCAA said recently they could not see having sports unless students were back on campus, and the California system announced today students will not be back on campus in the fall (just on-line) am I right to conclude that at very least California teams will not be playing the coming season?

I just caught snippets of both while working, anyone please jump into correct me. Could also be just UCLA, Cal etc out, but St. Mary's and private schools could play?

Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy
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16m
Regarding announcement by CSU Chancellor, San Diego State official says SDSU will offer a hybrid model for classes (some in-person, some virtual). “In athletics, we continue to work through many scenarios, including sports in the fall.”

Andy Katz
@TheAndyKatz
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21m
A @GoAztecs
official said the plan is still for @Aztec_MBB
to play the 2020-21 season if and when the college basketball season starts on time. This comes after the announcement today that the Cal State University system would be mostly on line for the fall semester.

And the California State system is NOT the UC system. The one that announced no classes today is for like San Diego St and schools like that.

Schools like Stanford, Cal, UCLA are a different system. And yes, I have heard several conference commissioners say that if their leagues don't have all the teams on campus this fall, they would have no problems having a season wit hthe schools that are on campus.

[4everwarriors]

Inn udder words, donut bye seeson ducats, aina?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I think Val may regret her comments regarding schools not having first semester sports if students aren't on campus.  The fact is there are ways to mitigate risks, not only for athletes but for other students, who for whatever reason need to be on campus even if their classroom experience is virtual.

[Not A Serious Person]

Andy Katz
@TheAndyKatz
And yes, I have heard several conference commissioners say that if their leagues don't have all the teams on campus this fall, they would have no problems having a season with the schools that are on campus.

NCAA's Mark Emmert says fall sports likely a no-go if campuses aren't open

May 8
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/29152467/ncaa-mark-emmert-says-fall-sports-likely-no-go-campuses-open

NCAA president Mark Emmert said he does not envision schools being ready to begin competing in college football or other fall sports unless students return to campuses around the country.

In an interview shown on the NCAA's official Twitter account Friday night, Emmert said he has spoken to hundreds of presidents and commissioners in recent weeks and he believes there is consensus among them.

"All of the commissioners and every president that I've talked to is in clear agreement: If you don't have students on campus, you don't have student-athletes on campus," Emmert said. "That doesn't mean [the school] has to be up and running in the full normal model, but you have to treat the health and well-being of the athletes at least as much as the regular students. ... If a school doesn't reopen, then they're not going to be playing sports. It's really that simple."

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Emmert won't be the one making that call though.  We will see.

[Not A Serious Person]

You'll Still Be Homeschooling Your Kids This Fall, Dr. Fauci Says
DURING A SENATE COMMITTEE HEARING, FAUCI SAID SCHOOLS REOPENING IN THE FALL IS "A BRIDGE TOO FAR."

May 12
https://bestlifeonline.com/fauci-schools-open-fall/

Anthony Fauci, MD, revealed Tuesday morning that a return to school in the fall "would be a bit of a bridge too far," during a Senate Committee hearing. News of likely continued homeschooling for the next school year will probably be met with groans and frustration by harried parents struggling to balance working from home and also managing remote learning and having their children home 100 percent of the time.

[panda]

You'll Still Be Homeschooling Your Kids This Fall, Dr. Fauci Says
DURING A SENATE COMMITTEE HEARING, FAUCI SAID SCHOOLS REOPENING IN THE FALL IS "A BRIDGE TOO FAR."

May 12
https://bestlifeonline.com/fauci-schools-open-fall/

Anthony Fauci, MD, revealed Tuesday morning that a return to school in the fall "would be a bit of a bridge too far," during a Senate Committee hearing. News of likely continued homeschooling for the next school year will probably be met with groans and frustration by harried parents struggling to balance working from home and also managing remote learning and having their children home 100 percent of the time.

I can’t imagine that will go over well with parents of kids who both work.

[4everwarriors]

Does anyone ever consider the ancillary, trickle down effects of their agenda driven monologues, hey?

[WarriorDad]

Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy
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16m
Regarding announcement by CSU Chancellor, San Diego State official says SDSU will offer a hybrid model for classes (some in-person, some virtual). “In athletics, we continue to work through many scenarios, including sports in the fall.”

Andy Katz
@TheAndyKatz
·
21m
A @GoAztecs
official said the plan is still for @Aztec_MBB
to play the 2020-21 season if and when the college basketball season starts on time. This comes after the announcement today that the Cal State University system would be mostly on line for the fall semester.

And the California State system is NOT the UC system. The one that announced no classes today is for like San Diego St and schools like that.

Schools like Stanford, Cal, UCLA are a different system. And yes, I have heard several conference commissioners say that if their leagues don't have all the teams on campus this fall, they would have no problems having a season wit hthe schools that are on campus.

Stanford is private, not in any state system. 

[GoldenWarrior11]

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/ncaa-mandate-uniform-return-college-sports-mark-emmert/story?id=70650145

"These are localized decisions," Emmert said Tuesday. "Local campuses have to decide: Are we opening up, and are we bringing students back to play sports? The NCAA doesn't mandate that, nor should it. The schools themselves have to make those choices."

Emmert is already backtracking his universal "no kids, no campus, no sports" declaration. 

Kids, there will be college and pro sports this Fall and Winter; it just depends on your local government choosing whether or not to be behind the rest of the pack.  Alabama (which was to be playing USC Week 1) is already talking with TCU about that spot.  Can you imagine the negative blowback and loss of revenues if USC is forced to relinquish a big game against Alabama in Arlington, TX? 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Does anyone ever consider the ancillary, trickle down effects of their agenda driven monologues, hey?

Like whom?  In my experience, decisions made about whether campuses should have students in the fall are mostly focusing on safety, liability and finances more than anything.  No one's "agenda driven monolouge"  even enters the conversation.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Also, looks like our UCLA game probably won't be played. 

[GoldenWarrior11]

PAC-12 issues statement in wake of Cal State System announcement yesterday: ""The Pac-12 and our member universities will make our own determinations on when our student-athletes can return to play and when and how campuses will reopen to students."

Once again, the all-or-nothing mindset has quickly evaporated. College sports will return this Fall, regardless if a state, or states, mandate that it is unsafe to do so. There will be plenty of open states that choose to play sports, and those states and schools will be ahead of the curve because they will be attracting and acquiring many more prospective students/families from states that will be told they need to stay home (and cannot play sports).

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy
·
16m
Regarding announcement by CSU Chancellor, San Diego State official says SDSU will offer a hybrid model for classes (some in-person, some virtual). “In athletics, we continue to work through many scenarios, including sports in the fall.”

Andy Katz
@TheAndyKatz
·
21m
A @GoAztecs
official said the plan is still for @Aztec_MBB
to play the 2020-21 season if and when the college basketball season starts on time. This comes after the announcement today that the Cal State University system would be mostly on line for the fall semester.

And the California State system is NOT the UC system. The one that announced no classes today is for like San Diego St and schools like that.

Schools like Stanford, Cal, UCLA are a different system. And yes, I have heard several conference commissioners say that if their leagues don't have all the teams on campus this fall, they would have no problems having a season wit hthe schools that are on campus.

So these kids are gonna pay $10k to $70k for classses on Zoom? When Phoenix University is one click away fir the semester at $100s.  Good luck with that California.... can u say bankruptcy?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

So these kids are gonna pay $10k to $70k for classses on Zoom? When Phoenix University is one click away fir the semester at $100s.  Good luck with that California.... can u say bankruptcy?

If you are an in-state student at SanJose State, you are paying just over $2,800 in tuition each semester for anything over six units.  There are also various fees, some of which may not be charged if you aren't on campus.  But even if they are, it is $3,926.00 in total.

https://www.sjsu.edu/bursar/fees_due_dates/tuition_fees/spring/index.html

For University of Phoenix, it will cost almost $400 per credit.  Plus then you will have to worry about transferring the classes back.

https://www.phoenix.edu/tuition_and_financial_options/tuition_and_fees.html#

So anything ten credits or more would be better at a CSU school.  Then when you build in the transferability of courses, it is an absolute no-brainer to stay where you are and just take the courses virtually.  Or take a year off.

[willie warrior]

You'll Still Be Homeschooling Your Kids This Fall, Dr. Fauci Says
DURING A SENATE COMMITTEE HEARING, FAUCI SAID SCHOOLS REOPENING IN THE FALL IS "A BRIDGE TOO FAR."

May 12
https://bestlifeonline.com/fauci-schools-open-fall/

Anthony Fauci, MD, revealed Tuesday morning that a return to school in the fall "would be a bit of a bridge too far," during a Senate Committee hearing. News of likely continued homeschooling for the next school year will probably be met with groans and frustration by harried parents struggling to balance working from home and also managing remote learning and having their children home 100 percent of the time.
Fauci, having spent the last 50 years in government beauracracy, and not seen a patient in 20 years, and wrong on every model prediction, has spoken, and his word is the gospel regarding schools.

[Pakuni]

So these kids are gonna pay $10k to $70k for classses on Zoom? When Phoenix University is one click away fir the semester at $100s.  Good luck with that California.... can u say bankruptcy?

Its' not the in-person learning experience that makes a degree from a California state school more valuable than one from the University of Phoenix.

[dgies9156]

What an incredible overreaction.

In many states, normalcy is returning. We know the number of new cases but we don't know the number of "ins and outs" showing the number of people who either are asymptomatic, light cases (like a work colleague who has worked through a case of coronavirus while quarantined) and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, recoveries. I'll betcha this will look a whole lot better if someone can reasonably calculate ins and outs.

Too many of our governors (are you listening Governor JB?) are moving the goalposts and changing the objectives. Why? Who knows!

The things we need to be asking for college sports as well as society at large are: 1) What are we afraid of? 2) Is it reasonable to be so afraid we shut down almost every element of society? 3) What do we do next time a contagious disease strikes? Is this now a regular feature of American life?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

What an incredible overreaction.

In many states, normalcy is returning. We know the number of new cases but we don't know the number of "ins and outs" showing the number of people who either are asymptomatic, light cases (like a work colleague who has worked through a case of coronavirus while quarantined) and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, recoveries. I'll betcha this will look a whole lot better if someone can reasonably calculate ins and outs.

Too many of our governors (are you listening Governor JB?) are moving the goalposts and changing the objectives. Why? Who knows!

The things we need to be asking for college sports as well as society at large are: 1) What are we afraid of? 2) Is it reasonable to be so afraid we shut down almost every element of society? 3) What do we do next time a contagious disease strikes? Is this now a regular feature of American life?

To answer your questions:

1.  Colleges and universities are afraid of a deadly contagious disease that spreads undetected among people, symptomatically and asymptomatically, that can harm both studeents, employees and their respective families.  People who live, eat, recreate, go to class, etc. in close proximity to one another is a recipe for how this disease can spread.  It is a problem fraught with health, liability and financial implications.

2.  No one is suggesting that "we shut down almost every element of society."  That's hyperbolic nonsense.

3.  With one as deadly as COVID?  Probably somethig similar.  The normal old flu?  Business as usual.  This is not a "regular feature of American life" since the last time a pandemic of this sort occurred was over 100 years ago.  (My schools closed residence halls then too.)

[WarriorDad]

2.  No one is suggesting that "we shut down almost every element of society."  That's hyperbolic nonsense.

Unfortunately not accurate.  No one here, but there are people out there that have said exactly that.  Shut it down until a vaccine comes out. 

[79Warrior]

Unfortunately not accurate.  No one here, but there are people out there that have said exactly that.  Shut it down until a vaccine comes out.

Who? I have not heard anyone credible say that.

[79Warrior]

Stanford is private, not in any state system.

My buddy at Stanford says they are not likely to have in person classes in the fall. Delaying the start is under consideration as well as other options.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Unfortunately not accurate.  No one here,

Oh

[muwarrior69]

To answer your questions:

1.  Colleges and universities are afraid of a deadly contagious disease that spreads undetected among people, symptomatically and asymptomatically, that can harm both studeents, employees and their respective families.  People who live, eat, recreate, go to class, etc. in close proximity to one another is a recipe for how this disease can spread.  It is a problem fraught with health, liability and financial implications.

2.  No one is suggesting that "we shut down almost every element of society."  That's hyperbolic nonsense.

3.  With one as deadly as COVID?  Probably somethig similar.  The normal old flu?  Business as usual.  This is not a "regular feature of American life" since the last time a pandemic of this sort occurred was over 100 years ago.  (My schools closed residence halls then too.)

Hmm...I wonder if anyone would hire a student who took an online chemistry/lab course to work in their laboratories? I believe some courses require a student to be physically present to be prepared for the real world.