COVID Economy

[Billy Hoyle]

Humanities programs account for less than 5 percent of all advanced degrees awarded.

https://www.amacad.org/humanities-indicators/higher-education/humanities-share-all-advanced-degrees-conferred

Duke advertises the average starting salary upon graduating with a MBA from there is $171k.  The cost for that degree, per Duke, is $140k over two years. Columbia MBA is the highest at $174k for average starting compensation after $77k per year tuition. That’s a pretty damn good investment, but sure, let’s call those loans predatory and the 25 year olds starting at $170k a year victims.

And if someone is dumb enough to take out six figure loan debt to go to full time to joke “schools” like Cooley Law or any CBA school, or DeVry and other worthless MBA program that’s their own damn fault.

https://dwc.cnbc.com/QzhkB/index.html

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/12/the-10-worst-law-schools-in-the-country-2018/

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Duke advertises the average starting salary upon graduating with a MBA from there is $171k.  The cost for that degree, per Duke, is $140k over two years. Columbia MBA is the highest at $174k for average starting compensation after $77k per year tuition. That’s a pretty damn good investment, but sure, let’s call those loans predatory and the 25 year olds starting at $170k a year victims.

And if someone is dumb enough to take out six figure loan debt to go to full time to joke “schools” like Cooley Law or any CBA school, or DeVry and other worthless MBA program that’s their own damn fault.

https://dwc.cnbc.com/QzhkB/index.html

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/12/the-10-worst-law-schools-in-the-country-2018/

Lol. Yeah. Screw them.

[MU82]

Once again, one U.S. political party is actively, aggressively working to undermine our country's attempt to protect the health of our residents and rid us from the scourge of COVID-19.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/12/27/5-gop-led-states-extend-unemployment-aid-workers-who-lose-jobs-over-vaccine-mandates/?utm_campaign=wp_the7&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_the7&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F359d985%2F61c9ac309d2fdab56be3193a%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F21%2F39%2F61c9ac309d2fdab56be3193a

At least five Republican-led states have extended unemployment benefits to people who’ve lost jobs over vaccine mandates — and a smattering of others may soon follow.

Workers who quit or are fired for cause — including for defying company policy — are generally ineligible for jobless benefits. But Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Kansas and Tennessee have carved out exceptions for those who won’t submit to the multi-shot coronavirus vaccine regimens that many companies now require. Similar ideas have been floated in Wyoming, Wisconsin and Missouri.

Critics contend that these states are incentivizing people to skip shots that public health experts say offer the best line of defense against the coronavirus. Business leaders and industry groups have argued against the rule changes because, they say, companies would shoulder much of the costs. And the efforts are playing out as the Biden administration is pressing immunization rules for private companies and as coronavirus cases are surging again because of the fast-spreading omicron variant.

Observers say it’s a mark of the politicization of the coronavirus — with fights flaring over business closures, mask mandates and more — and how it has scrambled state politics and altered long-held positions. It wasn’t long ago, they note, that two dozen Republican-led states moved to restrict unemployment aid to compel residents to return to the workforce and ease labor shortages.

“These governors, who are using the unemployment insurance system in a moment of political theater to make a statement about the vaccine mandate, are the same folks who turned off unemployment benefits early for millions of workers over the summer,” said Rebecca Dixon, the executive director of the left-leaning National Employment Law Project. Arkansas, Iowa, Tennessee and Florida cut federal unemployment aid in June.

[mu_hilltopper]

And if someone is dumb enough to take out six figure loan debt to go to full time to joke “schools” like Cooley Law ..


https://abovethelaw.com/2018/12/the-10-worst-law-schools-in-the-country-2018/

With irony, last night we had dinner with my Uncle who was a prof at Cooley.  I had no idea I should have been giving him crap all these years.

[warriorchick]

These schools have the worst LSATs and GPAs for admitted students.  That doesn't necessarily mean they are the worst law schools.

And especially since at least four of these schools are HBCUs, those that believe that standardized tests are biased might like to have a word.

[lawdog77]

These schools have the worst LSATs and GPAs for admitted students.  That doesn't necessarily mean they are the worst law schools.

And especially since at least four of these schools are HBCUs, those that believe that standardized tests are biased might like to have a word.

Exactly. I would be curious (but not curious enough to look up) bar passage rates.

[jesmu84]

Inflation update:

https://youtu.be/L0pTrNEQ-JU

[Billy Hoyle]

Exactly. I would be curious (but not curious enough to look up) bar passage rates.

Not good (except for NC Central) which is why schools get sanctioned by the ABA (which led to Valpo closing). They’re admitting too many students who are unlikely to pass the Bar. One thing I noticed with Southern was the large number of grads who didn’t even sit for the bar, nearly 50%. But at least tuition is cheap (the school motto is “A Great Value in Legal Education,” seriously), they won’t need forgiveness.

Of course, bar passage rates need to be considered in conjunction with the passage rate of the jurisdiction.

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/legal_education_and_admissions_to_the_bar/statistics/2019-bar-data-consumer-info.xlsx

[Pakuni]

Duke advertises the average starting salary upon graduating with a MBA from there is $171k.  The cost for that degree, per Duke, is $140k over two years. Columbia MBA is the highest at $174k for average starting compensation after $77k per year tuition. That’s a pretty damn good investment, but sure, let’s call those loans predatory and the 25 year olds starting at $170k a year victims.

And if someone is dumb enough to take out six figure loan debt to go to full time to joke “schools” like Cooley Law or any CBA school, or DeVry and other worthless MBA program that’s their own damn fault.

https://dwc.cnbc.com/QzhkB/index.html

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/12/the-10-worst-law-schools-in-the-country-2018/

Shifting goalposts, dropping strawmen and unloading a whopper of red herring, all in the same post.
You, sir, are the king.

[#UnleashSean]

Once again, one U.S. political party is actively, aggressively working to undermine our country's attempt to protect the health of our residents and rid us from the scourge of COVID-19.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/12/27/5-gop-led-states-extend-unemployment-aid-workers-who-lose-jobs-over-vaccine-mandates/?utm_campaign=wp_the7&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_the7&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F359d985%2F61c9ac309d2fdab56be3193a%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F21%2F39%2F61c9ac309d2fdab56be3193a

At least five Republican-led states have extended unemployment benefits to people who’ve lost jobs over vaccine mandates — and a smattering of others may soon follow.

Workers who quit or are fired for cause — including for defying company policy — are generally ineligible for jobless benefits. But Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Kansas and Tennessee have carved out exceptions for those who won’t submit to the multi-shot coronavirus vaccine regimens that many companies now require. Similar ideas have been floated in Wyoming, Wisconsin and Missouri.

Critics contend that these states are incentivizing people to skip shots that public health experts say offer the best line of defense against the coronavirus. Business leaders and industry groups have argued against the rule changes because, they say, companies would shoulder much of the costs. And the efforts are playing out as the Biden administration is pressing immunization rules for private companies and as coronavirus cases are surging again because of the fast-spreading omicron variant.

Observers say it’s a mark of the politicization of the coronavirus — with fights flaring over business closures, mask mandates and more — and how it has scrambled state politics and altered long-held positions. It wasn’t long ago, they note, that two dozen Republican-led states moved to restrict unemployment aid to compel residents to return to the workforce and ease labor shortages.

“These governors, who are using the unemployment insurance system in a moment of political theater to make a statement about the vaccine mandate, are the same folks who turned off unemployment benefits early for millions of workers over the summer,” said Rebecca Dixon, the executive director of the left-leaning National Employment Law Project. Arkansas, Iowa, Tennessee and Florida cut federal unemployment aid in June.

I do love the absolute flip-flops are political system does. Almost like this 2 party system is useless and should be abolished.

[MU82]

I do love the absolute flip-flops are political system does. Almost like this 2 party system is useless and should be abolished.

Well, I don't know how one "abolishes" a political system.

But when many leaders from one party continuously and aggressively work to undermine what this country needs during a deadly pandemic, it's more than just "routine hypocrisy."

[Jockey]

Yeah, offering people money for not getting the vaccine is just plain sick.

It goes beyond politics into the realm of cruelty and evil.

But in reality, it IS only one party that embraces this sick stuff.

[Hards Alumni]

I do love the absolute flip-flops are political system does. Almost like this 2 party system is useless and should be abolished.

Holy smokes, we agree.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Shifting goalposts, dropping strawmen and unloading a whopper of red herring, all in the same post.
You, sir, are the king.

Like father, like son

[Hards Alumni]

Shifting goalposts, dropping strawmen and unloading a whopper of red herring, all in the same post.
You, sir, are the king.

[rocket surgeon]

With irony, last night we had dinner with my Uncle who was a prof at Cooley.  I had no idea I should have been giving him crap all these years.

i know a guy whose family had a big legacy at MU law, was turned down, went to cooley and now is probably among the top 5 defense attorneys in milwaukee.  jerry boyle was practically family

[lawdog77]

Well, I don't know how one "abolishes" a political system.

Storming the capitol?

[#UnleashSean]

Well, I don't know how one "abolishes" a political system.

But when many leaders from one party continuously and aggressively work to undermine what this country needs during a deadly pandemic, it's more than just "routine hypocrisy."

Banning both the republican party and democratic party and allowing new parties to form.

Other countries have 4,5,6+ parties that are forced to actually work together because no one ever gains a majority.

[Warriors4ever]

A lot of those systems with multiple small parties don’t work very well either.

[tower912]

Banning both the republican party and democratic party and allowing new parties to form.

Other countries have 4,5,6+ parties that are forced to actually work together because no one ever gains a majority.

Yes, because banning parties is so in line with the first amendment and democracy in general.   

[Hards Alumni]

Yes, because banning parties is so in line with the first amendment and democracy in general.

A lot of people ignore that the constitution is supposed to be a living document.  The FF expected the document to evolve and change with the times.

But we haven't done much of that in the last 30 years.  And if we're being truly honest, its been more like 50 since anything 'new' was even introduced.

[#UnleashSean]

Yes, because banning parties is so in line with the first amendment and democracy in general.

I guess we can continue with the current system of both parties gerrymandering, filibustering, and flip flopping on policies to spite the other party. That's totally been working for the past 50 years right? I think our Healthcare system is TOP notch

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I guess we can continue with the current system of both parties gerrymandering, filibustering, and flip flopping on policies to spite the other party. That's totally been working for the past 50 years right? I think our Healthcare system is TOP notch

It’s up to the voters to force change. Otherwise they really don’t want it like they say they do.

[#UnleashSean]

It’s up to the voters to force change. Otherwise they really don’t want it like they say they do.

Its hard to actually force change when 2 parties have a monopoly on everything. The occasional 3rd party candidate sneaks through, but not enough to make a difference. Primaries are worthless since whatever candidate we vote in is required to tow the party line or be booted.

[MU82]

It’s up to the voters to force change. Otherwise they really don’t want it like they say they do.

The gerrymandering that takes place on the state level -- which includes U.S. House seats -- often makes it impossible for voters to force change. Districts are designed that let elected officials choose voters rather than the other way around. Southern states, especially, pack Black voters tightly into a few districts, clearing the way for Republicans to win a majority of statehouse and U.S. House seats even if Dems get more votes statewide.

Both parties do it, but the GOP has it down to a science.

Our country desperately needs a comprehensive voting rights law, one that will eliminate gerrymandering, mandate specific days/hours when polls are open, mandate the number of ballot drop boxes, create simple and unified rules for absentee voting, make it illegal for states to craft legislation that would let leaders of one party nullify votes they don't like, etc.

Until that happens, we can have lots of small, cosmetic changes but we won't have a system where every person's vote matters.

Unfortunately, I give about a 0.1% chance of that happening in my lifetime.