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pacearrow02

Arizona joining the party in lifting all business restrictions!!!  Come on Evers, let's do it.

Jockey

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on March 05, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Arizona joining the party in lifting all business restrictions!!!  Come on Evers, let's do it.

evers doesn't need a high body count to satisfy his ego.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on March 05, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Arizona joining the party in lifting all business restrictions!!!  Come on Evers, let's do it.

His home companion care aides haven't told him to do that yet.   It's still oatmeal time.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on March 05, 2021, 02:36:34 PM
Arizona joining the party in lifting all business restrictions!!!  Come on Evers, let's do it.

  highest increase in numbers of covid are all along the border, texas to california...gee, i wonder what that's all about? 

felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

jesmu84

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 06:03:29 PM
  highest increase in numbers of covid are all along the border, texas to california...gee, i wonder what that's all about?

Source?

And, if true, shouldn't we be still wearing masks and shutting down in those areas?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 06:03:29 PM
  highest increase in numbers of covid are all along the border, texas to california...gee, i wonder what that's all about?

Honest question, what is your problem with illegal immigration.  Genuinely curious.

4everwarriors

Ah, its illegal. That is all, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 05, 2021, 06:50:42 PM
Honest question, what is your problem with illegal immigration.  Genuinely curious.

teal?  "illegal' immigration is, umm, illegal eyn'a?  i'm all for coming in the front door man!

oh and jesman-google is your friend
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 05, 2021, 06:50:42 PM
Honest question, what is your problem with illegal immigration.  Genuinely curious.

you for illegal prostitution?  hows about illegal murder?  rape? not saying they're all the same except for the "illegal" part
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 05, 2021, 07:06:22 PM
Ah, its illegal. That is all, aina?

I'm pretty sure that's not all.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 07:33:11 PM
you for illegal prostitution?  hows about illegal murder?  rape? not saying they're all the same except for the "illegal" part

So what if they simply just made it legal?  That anyone could come to the border and be a legal resident?

You would have no problem with it then right?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

The illegal part is enough to start and end the discussion. Unless, of course, you believe the nonsense that no person is illegal. Just as hate has no home here, love is love, kindness is everything, and obviously, science is real, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 05, 2021, 07:48:05 PM
The illegal part is enough to start and end the discussion. Unless, of course, you believe the nonsense that no person is illegal. Just as hate has no home here, love is love, kindness is everything, and obviously, science is real, hey?

Nice dodge.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

#1063
Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 07:14:42 PM
teal?  "illegal' immigration is, umm, illegal eyn'a?  i'm all for coming in the front door man!

oh and jesman-google is your friend

I searched "increase covid on mexican border" and didn't find any news articles relevant on first 3 pages.

Can you share?

Edit: for those concerned about border crossing/immigrants, and you don't believe in isolationism, our country could do a much better job at how we treat latin american countries so as not to influence their residents to leave their home country

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 05, 2021, 07:44:35 PM
So what if they simply just made it legal?  That anyone could come to the border and be a legal resident?

You would have no problem with it then right?

  it is legal, if you follow the rules...what's the matter with you guys??  always the contrarian when the answers are so obvious.  you might want to "circle back" on some of your stuff.  are you for legal or illegal wedgies? 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

jesmu84

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 08:10:33 PM
  it is legal, if you follow the rules...what's the matter with you guys??  always the contrarian when the answers are so obvious.  you might want to "circle back" on some of your stuff.  are you for legal or illegal wedgies?

Your analogy makes it sound like you aren't for immigration in any case. As I'm not sure anyone is "for" wedgies in any case

rocket surgeon

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2021, 08:08:49 PM
I searched "increase covid on mexican border" and didn't find any news articles relevant on first 3 pages.

Can you share?

Edit: for those concerned about border crossing/immigrants, and you don't believe in isolationism, our country could do a much better job at how we treat latin american countries so as not to influence their residents to leave their home country

  well, yeah, CNN and MSNBC for example, won't have anything.  i'm obviously hesitant to put a link out there because ANY source i cite will be chit all over anyway. 

ok, here's one that might be acceptable-that took about 45 sec and it was the first one at top of duckduckgo search fyi-does that still count?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/us/coronavirus-arizona-yuma-covid.html
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2021, 08:14:11 PM
Your analogy makes it sound like you aren't for immigration in any case. As I'm not sure anyone is "for" wedgies in any case

here you go..."makes it sound"  nope, come in the front door man
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 08:10:33 PM
  it is legal, if you follow the rules...what's the matter with you guys??  always the contrarian when the answers are so obvious.  you might want to "circle back" on some of your stuff.  are you for legal or illegal wedgies? 

You didn't answer my question.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 08:18:31 PM
  well, yeah, CNN and MSNBC for example, won't have anything.  i'm obviously hesitant to put a link out there because ANY source i cite will be chit all over anyway. 

ok, here's one that might be acceptable-that took about 45 sec and it was the first one at top of duckduckgo search fyi-does that still count?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/us/coronavirus-arizona-yuma-covid.html

Did you read it?  Immigrants are only part of the problem. Oh...and it's legal immigration.

"Between October and March each year, as many as 40,000 "lechugeros," or lettuce people, toil in Yuma, whose mild temperatures and Colorado River-irrigated land make it the ideal spot to grow leafy vegetables.

Thousands commute daily from Mexico to the verdant fields that stretch into the distance, where the rust-colored Gila Mountains glisten. Guest workers stay in motels in town."
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 08:18:31 PM
  well, yeah, CNN and MSNBC for example, won't have anything.  i'm obviously hesitant to put a link out there because ANY source i cite will be chit all over anyway. 

ok, here's one that might be acceptable-that took about 45 sec and it was the first one at top of duckduckgo search fyi-does that still count?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/us/coronavirus-arizona-yuma-covid.html

Thanks.

That article does paint immigrants as part of the problem alongside governor choices and snowbirds.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 05, 2021, 07:33:11 PM
you for illegal prostitution?  hows about illegal murder?  rape? not saying they're all the same except for the "illegal" part

I think prostitution should be legal and regulated.  Sex work is work.

Murder obviously harms people so that is bad.

Rape obviously harms people so that is bad.

Is your belief that if something is labelled illegal then it is bad? 

jesmu84

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on March 05, 2021, 02:23:12 PM
$923 billion in the bill is for direct relief to people to include the $1400 one time check, $400 bump up in weekly, unemployment checks, increase in child tax credit, earned income tax credit, expansion of affordable care act subsidies for two years, extended paid sick leave and employee retention credit, subsidize cobra coverage for laid off workers, and a few other things.

That all makes sense.  Which leaves about 1 trillion dollars worth of things that while important and deserve govt support, I believe they should be separated out and voted on as individual policy topics.

If you don't care about the debt/deficit, then why take the stance that things need to be pared down?

pacearrow02

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2021, 09:03:00 PM
If you don't care about the debt/deficit, then why take the stance that things need to be pared down?

Debt and deficit doesn't have to be on top of the worry list to also expect/want the govt to act as fiscally responsible as possible.  Injecting another 2 trillion into the economy when it's not necessarily a need but rather a want with much of it brings inflation concerns etc. 

pacearrow02

Now WV is jumping in with both feet, yeehaww!!!

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