Protests

[cheebs09]

You are correct, but organizations like Susan G Komen are also corrupt.....Their throughput on dollars donated is less than 30% and they sue lots and lots of people.

I believe it's even worse when the NFL got involved. Wasn't only like 10% of that merchandise sales going to cancer research?

[The Sultan]

Well they will claim that it is for "cancer awareness."  Like people aren't aware of cancer or something.

[Jockey]

You're probably right, but one of the things talked about is an enthusiasm gap....if Trump can increase enthusiasm by rallying around the spector of Defunding and Biden is milquetoast (per the AOC crowd) on defunding that decreases the enthusiasm on the left.....that can't be a good thing.

Normally, Eng, I would say that you are 100% correct.

But the #1 driver of enthusiasm on the left is getting trump out of office. That absolutely will not change before November - in fact, it will probably intensify considering the scorched earth campaign that he will run.

Also, it will be very clear that de-funding the police does not mean getting rid of police. Camden NJ has seen a large decrease in crime (murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary, larceny, and auto theft) since de-funding their police dept. To be clear, the drop in unemployment also contributed to the drop.

[GooooMarquette]

It's a fair question, but if I'm advising the Biden campaign, I'm far more worried about losing white suburban voters and swing state moderates who might recoil over "defund" rhetoric than I am worried about losing the far left wing. The left wing, at worst, might stay home. But a vote that stays home is better than a vote that goes to Trump.
And ultimately I think the hard left's abhorrence for Trump will have most of them turning out just to vote against him. Especially if Biden picks Kamala Harris as his running mate, which seems likely.

I agree with you, and hope that's how he plays it.

[mu03eng]

Normally, Eng, I would say that you are 100% correct.

But the #1 driver of enthusiasm on the left is getting trump out of office. That absolutely will not change before November - in fact, it will probably intensify considering the scorched earth campaign that he will run.

Also, it will be very clear that de-funding the police does not mean getting rid of police. Camden NJ has seen a large decrease in crime (murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary, larceny, and auto theft) since de-funding their police dept. To be clear, the drop in unemployment also contributed to the drop.

Yeah, conceptually it makes sense and I'm not sure I agree with the position I supposing, more talking it out than anything.

But the defund the police phrase is just really bad politics. Defund literally means to remove all funding, and watching some of the mental gymnastics people have to go through to "validate" that phrase. It's an extreme example but that's like calling it forced pregnancy instead of pro-life. There are some that might mean it literally, but the vast majority of folks that support it include myself don't mean it literally so why use it?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Yeah, conceptually it makes sense and I'm not sure I agree with the position I supposing, more talking it out than anything.

But the defund the police phrase is just really bad politics. Defund literally means to remove all funding, and watching some of the mental gymnastics people have to go through to "validate" that phrase. It's an extreme example but that's like calling it forced pregnancy instead of pro-life. There are some that might mean it literally, but the vast majority of folks that support it include myself don't mean it literally so why use it?

The left generally sucks at messaging.

[Jockey]

Yeah, conceptually it makes sense and I'm not sure I agree with the position I supposing, more talking it out than anything.

But the defund the police phrase is just really bad politics. Defund literally means to remove all funding, and watching some of the mental gymnastics people have to go through to "validate" that phrase. It's an extreme example but that's like calling it forced pregnancy instead of pro-life. There are some that might mean it literally, but the vast majority of folks that support it include myself don't mean it literally so why use it?

The word they chose is terrible. What they want to do is RE-fund the police.

[shoothoops]

It is being reported that the White House is currently preparing a speech on race relations. And it is being crafted by...wait for it...Stephen Miller.

https://twitter.com/AprilDRyan/status/1270433974934999041?s=19

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

[ZiggysFryBoy]

The left generally sucks at messaging.

Considering that anything that can't fit on a bumper stick is too complex for most on the left, I agree with you.

[GooooMarquette]

Considering that anything that can't fit on a bumper stick is too complex for most on the left, I agree with you.

Hoax!

[muwarrior69]

Normally, Eng, I would say that you are 100% correct.

But the #1 driver of enthusiasm on the left is getting trump out of office. That absolutely will not change before November - in fact, it will probably intensify considering the scorched earth campaign that he will run.

Also, it will be very clear that de-funding the police does not mean getting rid of police. Camden NJ has seen a large decrease in crime (murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary, larceny, and auto theft) since de-funding their police dept. To be clear, the drop in unemployment also contributed to the drop.

I dare anyone to walk the streets of Camden after dark.

[mu03eng]

I dare anyone to walk the streets of Camden after dark.

Crime can't go up statistically if there is no one to report the crime to.

#Nowledge

[mu03eng]

It is being reported that the White House is currently preparing a speech on race relations. And it is being crafted by...wait for it...Stephen Miller.

https://twitter.com/AprilDRyan/status/1270433974934999041?s=19

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

I mean, technically, a speech espousing white nationalism is still a speech about race

[GooooMarquette]

I dare anyone to walk the streets of Camden after dark.

It still has a ways to go, but it is dramatically safer than just a few short years ago, when it was named the most dangerous city in America. Given where it started - yeah, it's still gonna have a level of danger that most of us would never want to face. But you have to start somewhere, and it is moving in the right direction.

Here's a link to the ten-year trend for many violent crimes, with stats from the NJ Attorney General:

https://www.tapinto.net/towns/camden/sections/law-and-justice/articles/camden-sees-crime-drop-over-past-decade

In ten years, an overall 41% drop in the crimes listed, with a 32% drop in murders. In fact, every category except rape and auto theft had a drop of more than 25%. That still isn't a place I'd want to live...but it's a whole lot more livable for the people already there.

[Pakuni]

It is being reported that the White House is currently preparing a speech on race relations. And it is being crafted by...wait for it...Stephen Miller.

https://twitter.com/AprilDRyan/status/1270433974934999041?s=19

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

Will it leave George Floyd smiling?

[shoothoops]

A deep dive about the Cross Fit CEO...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ryancbrooks/crossfit-ceo-founder-zoom-greg-glassman-george-floyd?__twitter_impression=true

[Jockey]

I dare anyone to walk the streets of Camden after dark.

Black people really scare you that much?

[Pakuni]

A deep dive about the Cross Fit CEO...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ryancbrooks/crossfit-ceo-founder-zoom-greg-glassman-george-floyd?__twitter_impression=true

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I wish that gif was longer, I'm curious how far she actually rolls.

[mu03eng]

I assume she won because she got it across the red line?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Considering that anything that can't fit on a bumper stick is too complex for most on the left, I agree with you.

Why yes, it is the left that are simpletons

[Pakuni]

Why yes, it is the left that are simpletons

The left is sooooo dumb.
Also, the left has seized control of the media, academia, the scientific community, government institutions, the national intelligence community, the entertainment industry and our major cities.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

The left is sooooo dumb.
Also, the left has seized control of the media, academia, the scientific community, government institutions, the national intelligence community, the entertainment industry and our major cities.

You're paying attention!  Good for you.

[GooooMarquette]

The left is sooooo dumb.
Also, the left has seized control of the media, academia, the scientific community, government institutions, the national intelligence community, the entertainment industry and our major cities.

If that's what dumb means, sign me up!

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Why yes, it is the left that are simpletons

Awwww, you owned me.