Next year's Starters

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Comparing Sy to Derrick offensively.  Ok.  Derrick's BEST 3 pt% in 4 years was 23%. Sy finished at 37.5% and was 40% from distance in conference. 

Derrick never reached 50% FT at MU.  Sy was just under 73%.

Derrick's best FG % was essentially equal to Sy's this year.

Now, as far as Sy vs Aaron Rowsey...

Yeah, Symir is better offensively than Derrick.  That was hyperbole on my part.  But Symir needs to learn how to attack and  be more of a scoring threat.

Also, I noticed that I biffed on Rowsey's first name.  Lousy brain.

[HutchwasClutch]

Garcia handles the ball like a guard.  Bailey is okay.  Jamal?  Makes me nervous when he puts it on the deck, but like all other attributes of his game.  This lineup would defend and rebound well, and shoot the three well.  But, I understand your point

Jamal is so baffling. Sometimes a picture perfect stroke from distance.  Sometimes a confident move for a mid range J.  Too often bone headed plays, rushed shot attempts. 

He seems like a really nice, humble kid.  I don't doubt he's trying to get better.  Wish everything would come together as a senior for him. Next years team sure could use that. But based on three full years of basically the same player, I'm counting on nothing new and improved from him. 

[GB Warrior]

People who complain about Koby's handle, and at the same time advocate for Symir, better look more deeply at the stats.

That's because you looked it up in a book. Next time, trying looking it up in your gut

[Elonsmusk]

My outside the box that will never happen, but fun to consider, and give us some unique identity-

F- Oso
F- Lewis
F- Garcia
G- Sy
G- DJ (presuming eligibility of course)

Lineup would have inside/outside play, ball handling, versatility, size, and most importantly-  talent!! 

Theo as 6th man to prevent early foul trouble. Lots of minutes still.

Defense would be an issue though with those 5 together 😬.  Would be entertaining though. 

Let youth be served!

Not bad idea Hutch.  In many ways this reminds me of Wojo's first year at MU.  Had a lot of talented underclassmen, but chose to ride vets.  Whatever the case, I'd take Koby McEwen all day everyday over Derrick Wilson.

Would feel for a guy like Jamal who has stuck with the program/Wojo, despite that brutal sophomore year, and relatively short hook.  However, I believe Jamal can be better than Juan Anderson was as a senior.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Not bad idea Hutch.  In many ways this reminds me of Wojo's first year at MU.  Had a lot of talented underclassmen, but chose to ride vets.  Whatever the case, I'd take Koby McEwen all day everyday over Derrick Wilson.

Would feel for a guy like Jamal who has stuck with the program/Wojo, despite that brutal sophomore year, and relatively short hook.  However, I believe Jamal can be better than Juan Anderson was as a senior.

Jamal has talent. If he could avoid the bad mistakes he could push Bailey out of the lineup and with minutes could be a 10/8 guy. Hope he takes that step.

[Elonsmusk]

Jamal is so baffling. Sometimes a picture perfect stroke from distance.  Sometimes a confident move for a mid range J.  Too often bone headed plays, rushed shot attempts. 

He seems like a really nice, humble kid.  I don't doubt he's trying to get better.  Wish everything would come together as a senior for him. Next years team sure could use that. But based on three full years of basically the same player, I'm counting on nothing new and improved from him.

I don't feel he takes many rushed shot attempts - particularly not as measured against other guys.  14.5% of shots while on floor.  Then again, everybody kind of wanted to shoot their shot while playing with Markus...

I believe IF Wojo would give Jamal his full support, vote of confidence, extend leash - I think he can take a big step forward next year, although everything is going to be a mess for all players this summer as it relates to skill development, etc.

[jesmu84]

I don't feel he takes many rushed shot attempts - particularly not as measured against other guys.  14.5% of shots while on floor.  Then again, everybody kind of wanted to shoot their shot while playing with Markus...

I believe IF Wojo would give Jamal his full support, vote of confidence, extend leash - I think he can take a big step forward next year, although everything is going to be a mess for all players this summer as it relates to skill development, etc.

[Uncle Rico]

People who complain about Koby's handle, and at the same time advocate for Symir, better look more deeply at the stats.

Sy has great court vision and hopefully the game slows down for him with regards to decision making at this level.  He flashed but the numbers were terrible. 

[MU82]

I believe IF Wojo would give Jamal his full support, vote of confidence, extend leash - I think he can take a big step forward next year, although everything is going to be a mess for all players this summer as it relates to skill development, etc.

I am far too lazy to look it up but a little while back both brew (I think brew, but it might have been TAMU) and I presented stats proving that you were wrong about Wojo's "leash" with Cain last season. You even admitted it after seeing the evidence. But here you are, bringing back one of your greatest hits (an oldie but a baddie).

[Hards Alumni]

My outside the box that will never happen, but fun to consider, and give us some unique identity-

F- Oso
F- Lewis
F- Garcia
G- Sy
G- DJ (presuming eligibility of course)

Lineup would have inside/outside play, ball handling, versatility, size, and most importantly-  talent!! 

Theo as 6th man to prevent early foul trouble. Lots of minutes still.

Defense would be an issue though with those 5 together 😬.  Would be entertaining though. 

Let youth be served!

3 freshman and 2 sophomores.  yikes.

[Pakuni]

Garcia handles the ball like a guard.  Bailey is okay.  Jamal?  Makes me nervous when he puts it on the deck, but like all other attributes of his game.  This lineup would defend and rebound well, and shoot the three well.  But, I understand your point

Garcia handles the ball well for his size, but in no way do you want him as a primary or even secondary ballhandler at this point.
I mean, imagine your suggested lineup against St. John's or Providence.

[tower912]

If ever there was a time to make zone the base defense...

[Elonsmusk]

I am far too lazy to look it up but a little while back both brew (I think brew, but it might have been TAMU) and I presented stats proving that you were wrong about Wojo's "leash" with Cain last season. You even admitted it after seeing the evidence. But here you are, bringing back one of your greatest hits (an oldie but a baddie).

Okay...yes..I recall Brew making the post that due to Cain being a sub, his leash was shorter.  I can appreciate that argument.  However, the player "development" under Wojo at MU speaks for itself.  Many guys stagnate, regress, quit, or transfer.

End of the day, the Wojo regime has not been very good.  Two consecutive year end implosions, all while having the programs all-time leading scorer and two time all american on roster.  Head scratching to say the least.

[Elonsmusk]

Garcia handles the ball well for his size, but in no way do you want him as a primary or even secondary ballhandler at this point.
I mean, imagine your suggested lineup against St. John's or Providence.

Carton becomes primary ball handler in those situations if facing full court pressure.  Not sure Koby or Sy are any less turnover prone, than what Garcia may be.  Keep in mind, a big would likely be picking him up full court - not quite the same as facing pressure from a guard. 

That aside, we likely won't see this lineup - but it could create some interesting opportunities both on O and D.

[MU82]

Okay...yes..I recall Brew making the post that due to Cain being a sub, his leash was shorter.  I can appreciate that argument.  However, the player "development" under Wojo at MU speaks for itself.  Many guys stagnate, regress, quit, or transfer.

End of the day, the Wojo regime has not been very good.  Two consecutive year end implosions, all while having the programs all-time leading scorer and two time all american on roster.  Head scratching to say the least.

Yes, we understand how you feel about Wojo: Worst Coach Ever. Duly noted. For the 8,552nd time.

I consider it progress that you at least acknowledge (again) the truth re Wojo-Cain and that maybe you'll refrain from misrepresenting the facts again on that issue.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Unless we land Mane or another similar level player (and Carton is eligible), Koby will start. Even if we land Mane, I think Koby would be the leader for the 5th starting spot but could see him coming off the bench.

There is more to basketball than offense. Defense and rebounding matter too. Plus, I don't think the offense we saw last season from Koby is what we will see this season.

[MU82]

Unless we land Mane or another similar level player (and Carton is eligible), Koby will start. Even if we land Mane, I think Koby would be the leader for the 5th starting spot but could see him coming off the bench.

There is more to basketball than offense. Defense and rebounding matter too. Plus, I don't think the offense we saw last season from Koby is what we will see this season.

This.

But I also feel confident that if somebody shows he is better than Koby, Wojo will have no problem giving that somebody (or those somebodies) more minutes than Koby. He has consistently done so, especially the last four years.

[Pakuni]

Carton becomes primary ball handler in those situations if facing full court pressure.  Not sure Koby or Sy are any less turnover prone, than what Garcia may be.  Keep in mind, a big would likely be picking him up full court - not quite the same as facing pressure from a guard. 

No, pressing teams will not be sending their bigs into the backcourt to guard Dawson. That's not how it works.

[brewcity77]

At the moment...

PG - DJ Carton
SG - Koby McEwen
SF - Brendan Bailey
PF - Dawson Garcia
C - Theo John

The most likely to crack that lineup would be Mane, though I'm not sure Wojo would go that young (assuming he would take Koby's spot). Elliott, Cain, and Lewis I think will all have the chance to fight for starting spots, but ultimately Wojo's tendency is to go with guys he trusts, and he's demonstrated trust in the guys above. The obvious exceptions are Carton and Garcia, who I expect to be too good not to be on the court.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My outside the box that will never happen, but fun to consider, and give us some unique identity-

F- Oso
F- Lewis
F- Garcia
G- Sy
G- DJ (presuming eligibility of course)

This is the ultimate backup QB syndrome lineup. 4 guys who haven't played a second for MU yet (3 of whom haven't graduated HS yet) and the last guy in the rotation from last season.

[Elonsmusk]

Yes, we understand how you feel about Wojo: Worst Coach Ever. Duly noted. For the 8,552nd time.

I consider it progress that you at least acknowledge (again) the truth re Wojo-Cain and that maybe you'll refrain from misrepresenting the facts again on that issue.

There is no misrepresentation of "facts."  Wojo had a very quick hook with Cain sophomore year. Was better last year.  Perhaps one reason we implode down the stretch is guys are worn out, due to Wojo's excessively quick hook for some bench guys...this grinding the startes to the bone.

Also. We understand how you feel about Wojo. We just need to have some patience. Jay Wright started slow. So did Coach K. Thanks as always for reminding us for our need to keep perspective.

BTW - Please quote 1 post where I've said, or anybody else has said:  "Wojo is the worst coach ever."  You are the only tool here that posts that cheesy and lame exaggeration.

[bilsu]

I think Koby starts. The question is how long he starts. Wojo has frequently change is starting lineup. Bailey started as a Freshmen and was replaced by Joey. Morrow also started and was replaced by John. I think Howard did not originally start as a freshmen, but he earned his way into the starting five.

[tower912]

Wojo played the Hausers too many minutes in 18-19.   Wore them down, slowed the development of others, like Cain.   Cain turned the ball over, back came a Hauser.    It limited his options when the dissension hit.

[HutchwasClutch]

This is the ultimate backup QB syndrome lineup. 4 guys who haven't played a second for MU yet (3 of whom haven't graduated HS yet) and the last guy in the rotation from last season.

Lighten up. Geez

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Lighten up. Geez

Not sure what about my post needed lightening.  It wasn't a criticism, just a statement of fact