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tower912

I saw bilsu post elsewhere that he is 68 with type 2 diabetes.   As we discuss these things, perhaps it is important to realize how many of us are actually at heightened risk.

For me, 2.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jesmu84

Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2020, 02:27:04 PM
I saw bilsu post elsewhere that he is 68 with type 2 diabetes.   As we discuss these things, perhaps it is important to realize how many of us are actually at heightened risk.

For me, 2.

Would be helpful for people to know the co-morbidities associated with poor covid-19 infection outcomes

Galway Eagle

2 Allergy induced asthma, and chronic sinusitis due to never getting my nose fixed from boxing matches.

More concerned about giving it to my parents and girlfriend's dad.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

rocky_warrior

Does ignorance count as a comorbidity?  ;)

As mentioned before, I've got 1, asthma.


tower912

Diabetes, hypertension, obesity, heart disease, asthma seem to be the big ones.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

JWags85

0 for me thankfully.  Grew out of asthma I had as a kid.

The obesity factor here kind of ticks me off, especially as we continue to see pushback to anyone daring to deem obesity as unhealthy.  See it all the time online as people yell that "weight has very little to do with health!!" and its certainly not relating to someone who has a bit of softness in their midsection

mu_hilltopper

I try to keep my BAC (blood Arby's content) at .08 at all times --  I think that's a good factor, though.

tower912

You can be active, healthy, but overweight.  I suspect that there will be a sedentary element to it, but to my knowledge that has not been established.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MarquetteDano

Quote from: JWags85 on April 16, 2020, 03:15:55 PM
0 for me thankfully.  Grew out of asthma I had as a kid.

The obesity factor here kind of ticks me off, especially as we continue to see pushback to anyone daring to deem obesity as unhealthy.  See it all the time online as people yell that "weight has very little to do with health!!" and its certainly not relating to someone who has a bit of softness in their midsection

"Nova" did an interesting episode on obesity.  They showed that Sumo wrestlers are pretty healthy.  The reason is their fat is nearest to their skin and not near their key organs.  The takeaway was that some people can be obese,  but they better get good exercise (like Sumos) and be in some kind of shape.  I imagine some NFL linemen would be similar.

Obesity + being in bad shape is the real killer (COVID,  and otherwise).

GooooMarquette

#9
1 - exercise-induced asthma (fortunately mild, and only triggered in cold weather).

I also have a history of hypertension, but it has been pretty well controlled lately. Based what I have read from the AHA (https://newsroom.heart.org/news/what-people-with-high-blood-pressure-need-to-know-about-covid-19), it only appears to increase risk with COVID if it's consistently over 130/80.

ZiggysFryBoy

My johnson hangs to my knees, how will that affect me?

GooooMarquette

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 16, 2020, 03:29:42 PM
My johnson hangs to my knees, how will that affect me?


Might bring carriers within 6 feet.

Jockey

Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2020, 02:59:53 PM
Diabetes, hypertension, obesity, heart disease, asthma seem to be the big ones.

Dude, I thought you were listing these as yours - until I re-read it. :)

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Jockey on April 16, 2020, 03:46:28 PM
Dude, I thought you were listing these as yours - until I re-read it. :)

I did too.  Thought, dang Tower is gonna keel over on the job soon.

Archies Bat

A few years back my doc said I was the healthiest overweight guy he knew.  I hope that means something.

BM1090



Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2020, 02:59:53 PM
Diabetes, hypertension, obesity, heart disease, asthma seem to be the big ones.

None of them, but I do have "old age"

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 16, 2020, 03:24:09 PM
"Nova" did an interesting episode on obesity.  They showed that Sumo wrestlers are pretty healthy.  The reason is their fat is nearest to their skin and not near their key organs.  The takeaway was that some people can be obese,  but they better get good exercise (like Sumos) and be in some kind of shape.  I imagine some NFL linemen would be similar.

Obesity + being in bad shape is the real killer (COVID,  and otherwise).

The fat under the skin isn't "bad", it's the fat around the organs that is the problem (poorly paraphrasing my doc).  My beer gut is rock hard, but the beer gut is full of inside fat, if that makes sense to non-medical people.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: Archies Bat on April 16, 2020, 04:38:44 PM
A few years back my doc said I was the healthiest overweight guy he knew.  I hope that means something.

Reminds me of what my doc wrote down for me .. "This is a well-developed well-nourished Caucasian male who is very pleasant, alert, and oriented, and in no acute distress."

It's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me.

Well nourished.  Man, I love that phrase.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 16, 2020, 09:56:13 PM
Reminds me of what my doc wrote down for me .. "This is a well-developed well-nourished Caucasian male who is very pleasant, alert, and oriented, and in no acute distress."

It's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me.

Well nourished.  Man, I love that phrase.

Arby's:  Well Nourishedtm

GooooMarquette

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 16, 2020, 09:56:13 PM
Reminds me of what my doc wrote down for me .. "This is a well-developed well-nourished Caucasian male who is very pleasant, alert, and oriented, and in no acute distress."

It's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me.

Well nourished.  Man, I love that phrase.

Pleasant?!?

/ducks/

The Sultan

I have none.
My wife has 1.
My dad and my mother in law have all of them.  And they live in senior care facilities.
My mom has none and is going to live forever.  (No further comment.)
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 17, 2020, 08:00:24 AM

My mom has none and is going to live forever.  (No further comment.)



My mom is 91, lives in a senior care facility, didn't recognize me last time I visited, and has a couple of additional comorbidities. I could probably walk in and tell her I'm John Wayne, and she'd ask for an autograph.

Still, I'm pretty sure she's going to live forever. So there's that....

StillAWarrior

I suppose I probably have one.  Fortunately, the one I might have is about 65 lbs better than it was 15 months ago -- enough that maybe I don't even have one.  I'm not sure where on the BMI scale they deem someone as having a co-morbidity.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

The Sultan

Oh my BMI says I'm overweight.  My primary care doc laughed at that when talked a couple of months ago.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 17, 2020, 10:50:25 AM
Oh my BMI says I'm overweight.  My primary care doc laughed at that when talked a couple of months ago.

I'm kind of teetering between "overweight" and "obese" on BMI.  I would certainly like to lose a little more, but compared to where I was for a couple of decades, I'm very happy with where I am right now.  And so is my doc.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 17, 2020, 10:50:25 AM
Oh my BMI says I'm overweight. 

BMI is kinda crap - not wholly.  But the mirror should accurately tell you if you need to lose a few pounds or not.

MarquetteDano

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 17, 2020, 11:07:02 AM
BMI is kinda crap - not wholly.  But the mirror should accurately tell you if you need to lose a few pounds or not.

I am 6'3" and now 205 (was 198 prior to lockdown... no more swimming, only doing weights).  so I am right at overweight BMI (25).  That is how the "Corona" does it... healthy before pandemic then slightly overweight for when I contract it.

Sneaky.   :P

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 17, 2020, 10:53:08 AM
I'm kind of teetering between "overweight" and "obese" on BMI.  I would certainly like to lose a little more, but compared to where I was for a couple of decades, I'm very happy with where I am right now.  And so is my doc.
Congrats on your progress.  It is NOT easy to turn that around and requires a helluva lot of determination.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

warriorchick

The best quick and dirty way to measure obesity - especially in terms of the unhealthier belly fat - is your waist-to-height ratio.

Your waist circumference should not be more that half your height. And gentlemen, use a tape measure, not your pants size.  We all know that many of you flop that belly over the waistband.

BTW, I am at 0 for co-morbidities. 
Have some patience, FFS.

wadesworld

Quote from: warriorchick on April 18, 2020, 07:28:20 AM
The best quick and dirty way to measure obesity - especially in terms of the unhealthier belly fat - is your waist-to-height ratio.

Your waist circumference should not be more that half your height. And gentlemen, use a tape measure, not your pants size.  We all know that many of you flop that belly over the waistband.

BTW, I am at 0 for co-morbidities.

Yeah I don't think that's a good way to do it at all. I've never in my life been told anything other than "you need to start eating more double cheeseburgers" and by your method I would be considered obese.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on April 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
Yeah I don't think that's a good way to do it at all. I've never in my life been told anything other than "you need to start eating more double cheeseburgers" and by your method I would be considered obese.

Wades?

MU Fan in Connecticut

0, thankfully.

My wife just tested negative.  My wife convinced herself she had COVID-19 and the kids and I told her she didn't have any of the symptoms.  Thankfully we were correct.

warriorchick

Quote from: wadesworld on April 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
Yeah I don't think that's a good way to do it at all. I've never in my life been told anything other than "you need to start eating more double cheeseburgers" and by your method I would be considered obese.

Really?  What are your height and waist size?

I still say it is better than BMI.  By that measure, a good number of professional athletes would be considered obese.
Have some patience, FFS.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 18, 2020, 01:47:07 PM
0, thankfully.

My wife just tested negative.  My wife convinced herself she had COVID-19 and the kids and I told her she didn't have any of the symptoms.  Thankfully we were correct.

How did she get a test if she is asymtomatic?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
How did she get a test if she is asymtomatic?

I'm guessing she just drove into a Walgreens or Walmart parking lot, and got one of those drive thru tests I heard so much about.

wadesworld

Quote from: warriorchick on April 18, 2020, 03:24:55 PM
Really?  What are your height and waist size?

I still say it is better than BMI.  By that measure, a good number of professional athletes would be considered obese.

Lol I completely misread the equation.  Sorry, I'm an idiot and that makes sense.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
How did she get a test if she is asymtomatic?

Scratchy throat for 4-5 days with some sinus pressure, achy joints, and low energy.   
Called the Doctor who said just watch for now and prescribed antibiotic for possible sinus infection.
She had been taking her temperature every day and 5 days after the initial doctor call measured a very low grade fever with no real change in the other symptoms.
No surprise, she felt immensely better after the negative test result.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 18, 2020, 06:02:14 PM
Scratchy throat for 4-5 days with some sinus pressure, achy joints, and low energy.   
Called the Doctor who said just watch for now and prescribed antibiotic for possible sinus infection.
She had been taking her temperature every day and 5 days after the initial doctor call measured a very low grade fever with no real change in the other symptoms.
No surprise, she felt immensely better after the negative test result.

I just got an email on this from local government and its great news.  Should be one of the test expansions needed to open up.  750 tests per day...working with CVS.  Per the NY Times article, it probably increases capability from 85 to ~105 tests per 100K per day.  So two more of these sites for CT and we are in business against the 152/100K target.

"The rapid test center uses the new Abbott ID NOW™ COVID-19 test, which provides results in 30 minutes, from the collection of the swab to the delivery of the results. Tests are provided at no cost to all patients.

Anyone interested in being tested must register online and make an appointment prior to arriving at the test site. Unlike the state's other testing centers, patients do not need to be referred by a doctor prior to being tested. "

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