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Quote from: #UnleashJayce on April 15, 2020, 08:49:38 PM
Symir maybe. He pretty much just got over recruited.

Carton is very unlikely to play more than one year if he is as good as advertised.  If he isn't Symir can compete for time.

Who knows what these guys are thinking but he's hardly permanently shut out of playing time.

The one that I think would be a candidate is Koby as a grad transfer - if he completed his degree.  Especially if you see a Mane commitment.
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Quote from: TSmith34 on April 16, 2020, 08:09:18 AM
I can understand it from DW's perspective, though. 5th year Senior, once thought to be the key to MU's future, doesn't really want to be coming off the bench for 15 minutes a game. It ended up being a very amicable transfer fortunately. But yes, he is one of the few who could still play at the D1 level.

Where does Haanif land on this? Transfers down then up back to P6
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I think Haanif's initial reason for transferring, because of an ill family member, was legit.
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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 16, 2020, 08:35:35 AM
I think Haanif's initial reason for transferring, because of an ill family member, was legit.

I think so too I'm asking if he counts amongst the burton Hausers and Duane list
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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 16, 2020, 08:35:35 AM
I think Haanif's initial reason for transferring, because of an ill family member, was legit.

I heard he went back to Florida because he forgot to bring his right hand to Marquette


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brewcity77

Quote from: TSmith34 on April 16, 2020, 08:09:18 AM
I can understand it from DW's perspective, though. 5th year Senior, once thought to be the key to MU's future, doesn't really want to be coming off the bench for 15 minutes a game. It ended up being a very amicable transfer fortunately. But yes, he is one of the few who could still play at the D1 level.

I definitely get it from his perspective. Go back to play for one of the coaches that recruited you (Chew) and fill a role on a solid, rising team. He was a good fit there, I just thought he was also a good fit here that wasn't used as well as he could have been.

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Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 16, 2020, 08:20:38 AM
Where does Haanif land on this? Transfers down then up back to P6
That's a good catch. Still a D1 player but definitely down a level or two.

Man, I had such high hopes for Haani after his Freshman year...
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I don't put either Duane or Haani on my list for all the reasons folks here have said.

If others want to include one or both, that's cool too.

Wichita State is having just about its entire roster transferring out in one offseason; Wojo has lost 3-5 transfers who mattered in 6 years, and he has brought in Carlino, Rowsey, Katin, Jayce and DJ, among others.
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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 16, 2020, 08:12:27 AM

The one that I think would be a candidate is Koby as a grad transfer - if he completed his degree.  Especially if you see a Mane commitment.

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Warrior of Law

Quote from: MU82 on April 16, 2020, 09:19:44 AM
I don't put either Duane or Haani on my list for all the reasons folks here have said.

If others want to include one or both, that's cool too.

Wichita State is having just about its entire roster transferring out in one offseason; Wojo has lost 3-5 transfers who mattered in 6 years, and he has brought in Carlino, Rowsey, Katin, Jayce and DJ, among others.

Overall, MU under Wojo has faired better in the transfer world.  Obviously, the Hauser departures are tough to overcome.
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Duane explained his decision to transfer a few weeks ago on the Real Chilly Podcast. It was a great interview, highly recommend.

CountryRoads

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 16, 2020, 08:12:27 AM
Carton is very unlikely to play more than one year if he is as good as advertised.  If he isn't Symir can compete for time.

Who knows what these guys are thinking but he's hardly permanently shut out of playing time.

The one that I think would be a candidate is Koby as a grad transfer - if he completed his degree.  Especially if you see a Mane commitment.

The thing working against Sy is that he really can only play one position. He doesn't have the shot or the offensive game in general to slide to the two. I wonder if Carton will be used off ball at all to get some scoring opportunities (sort of like Markus). That could bode well for Sy as he is a good passer and unselfish.

Also interested to see what happens with Koby. It could go either way for him but hoping he bounces back.

MU82

Quote from: Warrior of Law on April 16, 2020, 09:47:44 AM
Overall, MU under Wojo has faired better in the transfer world.  Obviously, the Hauser departures are tough to overcome.

Agree with this completely.
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Quote from: CountryRoads on April 16, 2020, 10:03:14 AM
The thing working against Sy is that he really can only play one position. He doesn't have the shot or the offensive game in general to slide to the two. I wonder if Carton will be used off ball at all to get some scoring opportunities (sort of like Markus). That could bode well for Sy as he is a good passer and unselfish.

Also interested to see what happens with Koby. It could go either way for him but hoping he bounces back.

What about Sy tells you that he can only play one position?  He was a Freshman, and had a good eFG.  He definitely has the size and the speed to excel at the 2.  Players develop their shot throughout their career.

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Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 16, 2020, 08:20:38 AM
Where does Haanif land on this? Transfers down then up back to P6

He could defintiely be a piece on a competitive P6 but lets also keep in mind when he returned to P6 it was to play for a team desperate for players that was ultimately terrible.
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Galway Eagle

Ok obviously Duane and Haani were a step below the Hausers and Burton. But I wouldn't put them down in the dumps with Dawson Sandy and Carter either. In the grand scheme of things either would have been fine sticking around longer.
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Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 16, 2020, 10:31:36 AM
Ok obviously Duane and Haani were a step below the Hausers and Burton. But I wouldn't put them down in the dumps with Dawson Sandy and Carter either. In the grand scheme of things either would have been fine sticking around longer.

My personal litmus test  for regrettable loss is whether or not they go to a school/conference I see as a competitor/parity to MU.  That means Du W counts, including McKay, Burton, S Hauser, J Hauser.  HC does not in my book--he took a step down to play and eventually worked his way back.  I wouldnt go purely by conference because of the Gonzaga/Cincy and others of the world.

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Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 16, 2020, 10:35:48 AM
My personal litmus test  for regrettable loss is whether or not they go to a school/conference I see as a competitor/parity to MU.  That means Du W counts, including McKay, Burton, S Hauser, J Hauser.  HC does not in my book--he took a step down to play and eventually worked his way back.  I wouldnt go purely by conference because of the Gonzaga/Cincy and others of the world.

McKay bolted on Buzz, not Wojo.

I'd rather have kept Duane than not, but the reasons he left and the other guards on our roster made it fine with me that he left. I don't consider it a "loss" for Wojo, unlike Burton and the Hauser Kidz. Again, totally my opinion.
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Quote from: MU82 on April 16, 2020, 02:46:46 PMMcKay bolted on Buzz, not Wojo.

Maybe if Wojo had come to Marquette sooner, McKay never would've left. I put McKay's departure squarely on Wojo.

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Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2020, 02:51:08 PM
Maybe if Wojo had come to Marquette sooner, McKay never would've left. I put McKay's departure squarely on Wojo.

Same but with Mbakwe
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Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 16, 2020, 02:51:45 PM
Same but with Mbakwe

Mbakwe is greater than the concept of time. Therefore all past, current, and future coaches are to blame for the departure of Mbakwe
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Just glad Mbakwe hasn't snapped his fingers while wearing the Infinity gauntlet.  Yet.
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Quote from: MU82 on April 16, 2020, 02:46:46 PM
McKay bolted on Buzz, not Wojo.

No kidding, really? 

I was listing all the recent transfers in the last two regimes that I would count as regrettable losses.

If I went back further, Crean recruits had a few (under buzz) -- maybe I should have added Mbakwe (but he didnt go to a HM) and christopherson (he did).

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Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 16, 2020, 03:08:22 PM
No kidding, really? 

I was listing all the recent transfers in the last two regimes that I would count as regrettable losses.

If I went back further, Crean recruits had a few (under buzz) -- maybe I should have added Mbakwe (but he didnt go to a HM) and christopherson (he did).
Nice dig at the Big 14.  Mbakwe ended up at Minnesota.
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 16, 2020, 03:00:37 PM
Mbakwe is greater than the concept of time. Therefore all past, current, and future coaches are to blame for the departure of Mbakwe
Mbakwe part of Marvel continuity?
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