Vaccine/Antibody updates

[Boozemon Barro]

Sorry ta earratate y'all, hey?

[rocket surgeon]

In a shocking turn of events, it turns out that America's Frontline Doctors' push for "alternative" treatments like HQC and ivermectin is all a grift.

A network of health care providers pocketed millions of dollars selling hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and online consultations, according to hacked data provided to The Intercept. The data show that vast sums of money are being extracted from people concerned about or suffering from Covid-19 but resistant to vaccinations or other recommendations of public health authorities.

America's Frontline Doctors, a right-wing group founded last year to promote pro-Trump doctors during the coronavirus pandemic, is working in tandem with a small network of health care companies to sow distrust in the Covid-19 vaccine, dupe tens of thousands of people into seeking ineffective treatments for the disease, and then sell consultations and millions of dollars' worth of those medications. The data indicate patients spent at least $15 million — and potentially much more — on consultations and medications combined.

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/covid-telehealth-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-hacked/

  you guys need to open your eyes and stop crapping all over treatment options that may have some benefit despite your political leanings.  this is how we solve things, not by mocking, minimizing and hence cancelling ideas your "experts" disagree with.  get over "right leaning" or "left leaning" and open up your eyes and ears.   

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/One-Page-Summary-of-the-Clinical-Trials-Evidence-for-Ivermectin-in-COVID-19.pdf



ivermectin is becoming the treatment of choice in india despite all the fun ya'll have had with it.  fortunately they've ignored all the "jokes" and have actually been saving lives with it


https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-pradesh-government-says-ivermectin-helped-to-keep-deaths-low-7311786/

[jesmu84]

omg

[rocky_warrior]

  you guys need to open your eyes and stop crapping all over treatment options that may have some benefit despite your political leanings.  this is how we solve things, not by mocking, minimizing and hence cancelling ideas your "experts" disagree with.  get over "right leaning" or "left leaning" and open up your eyes and ears.   

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/One-Page-Summary-of-the-Clinical-Trials-Evidence-for-Ivermectin-in-COVID-19.pdf

Oh boy... you know you just quoted a source that is expressly DEDICATED to promoting ivermectin?  And HCQ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Line_COVID-19_Critical_Care_Alliance

ivermectin is becoming the treatment of choice in india despite all the fun ya'll have had with it.  fortunately they've ignored all the "jokes" and have actually been saving lives with it


https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-pradesh-government-says-ivermectin-helped-to-keep-deaths-low-7311786/

No it isn't

https://science.thewire.in/health/icmr-revises-covid-treatment-guidelines-removes-ivermectin-hydroxychloroquine/

On September 23, India's apex medical research body, the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), revised its 'Clinical Guidelines' for COVID-19. Specifically, it removed mention of two drugs that a panoply of experts and non-experts had widely used and promoted both in India and worldwide, and which had also been ceaseless sources of controversy: ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ).

The previous version of the national COVID-19 treatment protocols, dated May 17, 2021 (the one from which ICMR dropped the use of convalescent plasma) suggested that ivermectin and HCQ "may" be used despite "a low certainty of the evidence". This feeble cautionary note did nothing to dampen the ill-founded enthusiasm for the use and promotion of both drugs.

With the new revision, ICMR – and India – are now in line with accepted good practice vis-à-vis managing COVID-19, at least on the count of these two drugs.

[JWags85]

Not to mention a huge issue with Ivermectin was people clamoring to use livestock rate doses.  I'd imagine thats not what was being taken in the generic drug capital of the world

[tower912]

Yes, the group that has accepted 10s of millions of dollars specifically to promote quack treatments.


Sad.   But, honestly, the best you can do.   Let us know what Sean and Tucker think.

[Hards Alumni]

Oh boy... you know you just quoted a source that is expressly DEDICATED to promoting ivermectin?  And HCQ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Line_COVID-19_Critical_Care_Alliance

No it isn't

https://science.thewire.in/health/icmr-revises-covid-treatment-guidelines-removes-ivermectin-hydroxychloroquine/

I applaud this takedown.

[Jockey]

I hope MU offers a better education than it did when he attended.

An embarrassment to any MU degree.

[pbiflyer]

I hope MU offers a better education than it did when he attended.

An embarrassment to any MU degree.

Jesuits taught us to think for ourselves. Some chose to ignore that lesson.

[Uncle Rico]

  you guys need to open your eyes and stop crapping all over treatment options that may have some benefit despite your political leanings.  this is how we solve things, not by mocking, minimizing and hence cancelling ideas your "experts" disagree with.  get over "right leaning" or "left leaning" and open up your eyes and ears.   

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/One-Page-Summary-of-the-Clinical-Trials-Evidence-for-Ivermectin-in-COVID-19.pdf



ivermectin is becoming the treatment of choice in india despite all the fun ya'll have had with it.  fortunately they've ignored all the "jokes" and have actually been saving lives with it


https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-pradesh-government-says-ivermectin-helped-to-keep-deaths-low-7311786/

10 of 10

Standing ovation!

[tower912]

Did Jesuits teach in the dental school?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

  you guys need to open your eyes and stop crapping all over treatment options that may have some benefit despite your political leanings.  this is how we solve things, not by mocking, minimizing and hence cancelling ideas your "experts" disagree with.  get over "right leaning" or "left leaning" and open up your eyes and ears.   

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/One-Page-Summary-of-the-Clinical-Trials-Evidence-for-Ivermectin-in-COVID-19.pdf



ivermectin is becoming the treatment of choice in india despite all the fun ya'll have had with it.  fortunately they've ignored all the "jokes" and have actually been saving lives with it


https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-pradesh-government-says-ivermectin-helped-to-keep-deaths-low-7311786/

There is nothing else to say other that Holy unnatural carnal knowledge, what an idiot.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I hope MU offers a better education than it did when he attended.

An embarrassment to any MU degree.

Who knows, rocket might have been perfectly fine before Fox brainwashed him. Now, its nothing but a regurgitation of what he hears on TV with zero critical thinking skills.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Another ivermectin success story!

https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy/status/1443738671937691654

[The Sultan]

I mean it's amusing that rocket keeps getting slapped around whenever he comes here and all.

But then I remember he is actually a "health care professional."  And that's frightening.

[rocky_warrior]

I mean it's amusing that rocket keeps getting slapped around whenever he comes here and all.

But then I remember he is actually a "health care professional."  And that's frightening.

Right. I don't really care what rocket chooses to do in his life. But promoting this quack "science" as a medical "professional" is pretty much treason to the occupation. Despicable.

[MU82]

From NYT's David Leonhardt:

The deadline for many workplace mandates arrived this week, often requiring people to have received a Covid-19 vaccine or face being fired. In California, the deadline for health care workers is today.

As was the case with Washington's army, the mandates are largely succeeding:

++ California's policy has led thousands of previously unvaccinated medical workers to receive shots in recent weeks. At Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, about 800 additional workers have been vaccinated since the policy was announced last month, bringing the hospital's vaccination rate to 97 percent, according to my colleague Shawn Hubler.

++ When New York State announced a mandate for hospital and nursing-home staff members in August, about 75 percent of them had received a shot. By Monday, the share had risen to 92 percent. The increase amounts to roughly 100,000 newly vaccinated people.

++ At Trinity Health, a hospital chain in 22 states, the increase has been similar — to 94 percent from 75 percent, The Times's Reed Abelson reports. At Genesis HealthCare, which operates long-term-care facilities in 23 states, Covid cases fell by nearly 50 percent after nearly all staff members had finished receiving shots this summer.

Often, the number of people who ultimately refuse the vaccine is smaller than the number who first say they will. Some are persuaded by the information their employer gives them — about the vaccines' effectiveness and safety, compared with the deadliness of Covid — and others decide they are not really willing to lose their jobs.

A North Carolina hospital system, Novant Health, last week suspended 375 workers, or about 1 percent of its work force, for being unvaccinated. By the end of the week, more than half of them — about 200 — received a shot and were reinstated.

Of course, 175 firings are not nothing. (A Washington Post headline trumpeted the story as "one of the largest-ever mass terminations due to a vaccine mandate.") United Airlines said this week that it would terminate even more employees — about 600, or less than 1 percent of its U.S. work force.

These firings can create hardship for the workers and short-term disruptions for their employers. But those disruptions tend to be fleeting, because the percentage of workers is tiny. "I'm not seeing any widespread disruptive effect," Saad Omer of the Yale Institute for Global Health told The Times.

And the benefits — reducing the spread of a deadly virus and lowering the chances it will mutate dangerously in the future — are large.

Or, we could just give everybody horse de-wormer and say some prayers.

[tower912]

I am grateful for rocket.   Forces those who disagree with him to present coherent, evidence-based arguments.   Which is good for all.

[jesmu84]

I mean it's amusing that rocket keeps getting slapped around whenever he comes here and all.

But then I remember he is actually a "health care professional."  And that's frightening.

Doesn't it kinda make you wonder what sources he uses to to base his own practice methods?

[Hards Alumni]

Doesn't it kinda make you wonder what sources he uses to to base his own practice methods?

I just wish he'd shut up and do all the things he promotes instead of taking the vaccine like a coward.

[tower912]

I know a couple of people who have done plaster casts of their teeth and do their own dental work because they don't trust dentists.   

Dentists were the first avenue for implanting the microchips the government uses for mind control, aina?

[MU82]

Here is an actual reputable pharmaceutical company doing an actual reputable scientific study that seems to actually reduce the worst effects of COVID-19.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-business-health-pandemics-a9a2245fdcee324f6bbd776a0fffcc60

WASHINGTON (AP) — Merck & Co. said Friday that its experimental COVID-19 pill reduced hospitalizations and deaths by half in people recently infected with the coronavirus and that it would soon ask health officials in the U.S. and around the world to authorize its use.

If cleared, Merck's drug would be the first pill shown to treat COVID-19, a potentially major advance in efforts to fight the pandemic. All COVID-19 therapies now authorized in the U.S. require an IV or injection.

This looks like great news.

But on the down side, it won't de-worm your horses.

[tower912]

Big Pharma.   Of course they did this now.   They know ivermectin is a threat to their profits.    'WE' kNoW bETter.

[Uncle Rico]

I'll get my medical advice from Tucker and Laura or Newsmax, thank you very much

[pbiflyer]

I read on the internet that the pill is just horse paste in pill form. Proves it works!