Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)

[rocket surgeon]

you know, i try to stop by just to see what's happening, but these are the types of posts that make this board tough to read.  come on rock, get to a meeting or something

i so wanna say i'm flattered...nope

[MU82]

When somebody posts about a promising drug or vaccine or procedure, many of us respond with encouraging words like, "Sounds promising. Here's hoping" ... or ... "Hopefully, this will be successful."

When somebody posts about drug or vaccine trials unfortunately having to pause, rocket responds: "why are you rooting for failure?"

I guess only one kind of fact is allowed here, and rocket is the judge of people's intentions.

[MU82]

Good news from J&J ...

Johnson & Johnson says it is preparing to resume a large clinical trial of its experimental COVID-19 vaccine after finding no evidence the vaccine caused an "unexplained illness" in a study volunteer that caused the company to pause the trial earlier this month.

J&J says an independent data safety and monitoring board recommends resuming recruitment of study subjects for the trial, and it has consulted with U.S. regulators while taking steps to resume the trial.

The company has not offered further details about the nature of the illness in the study subject.

The J&J trial aims to enroll as many as 60K people in the U.S. and other countries to test whether a single dose safely protects people from COVID-19.

Meanwhile, AstraZeneca says it has resumed the U.S. trial of its experimental COVID-19 vaccine after the Food and Drug Administration did not find the shot was responsible for neurological side effects that emerged in two test participants.

[GooooMarquette]

Good to see these trials are moving forward. With all the hurdles yet to overcome, we need as many potential vaccine candidates as we can get.

[wadesworld]

Weeks away. Just weeks away.

[wadesworld]

Will we get to a point where there is an at home test kit that is cheap enough for your average person to test him/herself a couple times a week if needed?

[Hards Alumni]

Will we get to a point where there is an at home test kit that is cheap enough for your average person to test him/herself a couple times a week if needed?

Depends on your financials, but Costco has one for $120

[jesmu84]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/add-vitamin-d-bread-milk-help-fight-covid-urge-scientists-deficiency-supplements

Vitamin D.

Personally, I've doubled my vitamin D supplementation since June.

[tower912]

And vitamin C.   And baby aspirin.

[GooooMarquette]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/add-vitamin-d-bread-milk-help-fight-covid-urge-scientists-deficiency-supplements

Vitamin D.

Personally, I've doubled my vitamin D supplementation since June.

I was originally skeptical of the need for a Vitamin D supplement because I take a multivitamin and drink plenty of milk. And I was worried about overdosing on vitamin D, since it is fat soluble. But then I read a Mayo Clinic article that showed you have to take astronomically huge megadoses (60,000 IU for several months; that's 100 times the RDA), so I decided to up mine a bit. I currently take ~5 times the RDA, so I feel pretty safe....

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/vitamin-d-toxicity/faq-20058108

[jesmu84]

https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2020/11/is-there-a-role-for-vitamin-d-in-the-treatment-of-covid-19.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Skatastrophy]

https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2020/11/is-there-a-role-for-vitamin-d-in-the-treatment-of-covid-19.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Written by Teresa Fuller, an Integrative Holistic Pediatrician according to her linkedin. Not saying the article is incorrect, but the source is dubious.

[GooooMarquette]

A balanced take on Vitamin D from the Harvard School of Public Health, which concludes that there is "some evidence" that it may prevent or reduce the severity of Covid-19 infection. The article also concludes that a supplement of 1,000 to 2,000 IU/day "is likely safe for most people."

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/treatments-for-covid-19#:~:text=There%20is%20some%20evidence%20to,with%20COVID%2D19.

And a recent study from Spain that was published in The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, showing that hospitalized Covid-19 patients had Vitamin D deficiency at a higher rate (82.2%) than population-based controls (47.2%).

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgaa733/5934827

I don't interpret Vitamin D as a magic bullet against Covid, but the evidence suggests that (1) it may increase resistance to infection; (2) many people are (unknowingly) deficient; and (3) moderate doses of 1,000 to 2,000 IU per day pose little to no risk for most adults.

[jesmu84]

Written by Teresa Fuller, an Integrative Holistic Pediatrician according to her linkedin. Not saying the article is incorrect, but the source is dubious.

Good catch. I generally trust things on kevinmd, so didn't look deeper

[Jockey]

Written by Teresa Fuller, an Integrative Holistic Pediatrician according to her linkedin. Not saying the article is incorrect, but the source is dubious.

In reality, a lot of doctors are using holistic approaches. I don't know what teachings there are in Medical schools for this, but more and more younger docs are looking for alternatives to the barrage of prescriptions that are doled out.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

My wife sees a Naturopath as well as her regular doctors. 
They take all the usual bloodwork and run the labs, but add an element of "vitamins & minerals & herbs" and will recommend certain prescriptions or send you to a regular doctor when necessary.
National Geographic had an article like 2 years ago how science is studying ancient Chinese herbal remedies and other long time treatments to see what is real and if what in the plant causes the reaction.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Ron Johnson is upset that he can't get...HCQ.
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1329464594851647489

[wadesworld]

I think I'll just skip the vaccine and take HCQ.

[GooooMarquette]

Ron Johnson is upset that he can't get...HCQ.
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1329464594851647489

Perhaps they should give him some...

[Hards Alumni]

Ron Johnson is upset that he can't get...HCQ.
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1329464594851647489

I think he can probably get some bleach if he gets to Walmart soon.  Hell, I'll even help him pick it out.

[rocket surgeon]

whatever happened to doctor-patient relationship and the gubmint keeping their filthy hands of our bodies??  seems to be ok for baby killing

[Uncle Rico]

Ron Johnson is upset that he can't get...HCQ.
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1329464594851647489

What an embarrassment to Wisconsin

[MU82]

whatever happened to doctor-patient relationship and the gubmint keeping their filthy hands of our bodies??  seems to be ok for baby killing

whatever happened to doctor-patient relationship and the gubmint keeping their filthy hands of our bodies?? you seem fine with gumint putting their filthy hands up ladies' kooches to suit your political whims.

[The Sultan]

whatever happened to doctor-patient relationship and the gubmint keeping their filthy hands of our bodies??  seems to be ok for baby killing

WTF are you talking about?  What has this to do with the nonsense Ron Johnson is talking about.

I know you'll go to great lengths to justify your initial, dumb support of Hydroxy (only because Trump supported it), but I think anyone speaking in support of it now looks a little stupid.

[Hards Alumni]

WTF are you talking about?  What has this to do with the nonsense Ron Johnson is talking about.

I know you'll go to great lengths to justify your initial, dumb support of Hydroxy (only because Trump supported it), but I think anyone speaking in support of it now looks a little stupid.

He's just reciting the talking points that he has been given.  He isn't capable of original thought or admitting he was wrong (like a real man does).  Same spit, different day