Wisconsin

[mu_hilltopper]

Curious .. has anyone seen a study on .. what are the major transmission avenues?

I mean, we have tons of data, 3200+ people per day in the state getting infected.    Where are they getting it?  I'd first think it's bars and restaurants, but .. that's a lot of people.

[The Lens]

Curious .. has anyone seen a study on .. what are the major transmission avenues?

I mean, we have tons of data, 3200+ people per day in the state getting infected.    Where are they getting it?  I'd first think it's bars and restaurants, but .. that's a lot of people.

I'm not even convinced its restaurants (given they're following a roughly 50% rule, servers in masks etc).  I really think it is packed bars and another other places where people gather in large, close groups and talk / yell / sing without masks.  I'm starting to be of the belief that you can do most things as long as you space out and mask up.  It's not that hard. 

[cheebs09]

I'm not even convinced its restaurants (given they're following a roughly 50% rule, servers in masks etc).  I really think it is packed bars and another other places where people gather in large, close groups and talk / yell / sing without masks.  I'm starting to be of the belief that you can do most things as long as you space out and mask up.  It's not that hard.

I would guess weddings would be a big one. Lots of people in close quarters, with iffy social distancing.

Bars would be the biggest in my opinion. Looking at that picture of Trinity in Milwaukee where it was basically a mosh pit had me feeling squeamish.

I also think there's just a lot of people that feel masking/distancing isn't worth the effort, so they go about their life normally and spread it that way.

[The Sultan]

Bars, weddings, and other family events.  That's where many are being eventually traced to.  That is why the idea of families getting together in close quarters is problematic for the Holidays.

[GooooMarquette]

Bars, weddings, and other family events.  That's where many are being eventually traced to.  That is why the idea of families getting together in close quarters is problematic for the Holidays.

This.

[shoothoops]

This.

Several of the people I know who have contracted COVID-19, did so dining outdoors with friends/family.

[Skatastrophy]

Man, too bad we haven't invested in testing and contact tracing so that we could get actual answers.

[The Sultan]

nm

[Uncle Rico]

I'm not even convinced its restaurants (given they're following a roughly 50% rule, servers in masks etc).  I really think it is packed bars and another other places where people gather in large, close groups and talk / yell / sing without masks.  I'm starting to be of the belief that you can do most things as long as you space out and mask up.  It's not that hard.

I was at Morningstar golf course in Waukesha last Saturday and they had a wedding reception where no one was masked up at all.  They also had a full buffet.  They've been doing concerts as well and the place gets packed

[Jockey]

On Wednesday, the leader of the legislative committee that has veto power over coronavirus policies brought to it by the Evers administration doubted there was a need for a field hospital. Sen. Steve Nass, R-Whitewater, claimed without evidence Evers was opening the overflow facility for political reasons.



Mr. Obvious! Evers could just have a Marine helicopter pick up these sick people and fly them to their own private hospital floor.

[pbiflyer]

Hasn't Wisconsin had a bunch of Oktoberfest events lately too?
Drinking, shouting over the bands, toasts. I'm sure they were all completely safe.

[Hards Alumni]

Hasn't Wisconsin had a bunch of Oktoberfest events lately too?
Drinking, shouting over the bands, toasts. I'm sure they were all completely safe.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most of those were cancelled.

[The Sultan]

The legislature and governor better come to an agreement soon, because the next seven months are going to be much worse than the previous seven.

[Hards Alumni]

The legislature and governor better come to an agreement soon, because the next seven months are going to be much worse than the previous seven.

[MU82]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most of those were cancelled.

The biggest brewery in the Charlotte metro area, Olde Mecklenberg Brewing, had its "Mecktoberfest" celebration a couple weeks ago. It resulted in numerous infections, and at least one hospitalization.

[The Sultan]

Yeah I know....

[Billy Hoyle]

A Sawyer County judge has, for now, blocked Gov. Tony Evers' latest order to curb the spread of coronavirus by limiting public gatherings and the number of customers bars and restaurants may serve at one time.

The order from Judge John Yackel knocks down the order at a time of record hospitalizations, new cases and deaths — and after bars and restaurants have lost a massive amount of revenue as customers stay away while the pandemic rages on in the state.

that's what happens when the Tavern League is one of the most powerful lobbying group in the state.

[Jockey]

The legislature and governor better come to an agreement soon, because the next seven months are going to be much worse than the previous seven.

Scoop's chief both-siderist.

[The Sultan]

Scoop's chief both-siderist.

From someone who can't put a thought together unless authored by some self-reinforcing Twitter follow...

Anyway, if you think the Governor has done well, that's fine.  But he hasn't. 

[GooooMarquette]

The wheels are officially falling off in Wisconsin...3,747 new cases today, breaking the previous high by about 500.

[mu_hilltopper]

I agree, Evers has not done well.  He's done mediocre, grading on a curve that's bad.

If I could advise him .. I would tell him to wave a white flag.   I would have Evers figuratively prostrate himself to Vos in the media, and downright beg him to hold a meeting where he (Evers) would agree to whatever plan Vos wanted in this time of need.

"Look, Vos and his team are going to stop every safety plan that comes from my office.  Wisconsin is on fire right now, we need a state-wide effort, and I'll do whatever he wants for the sake of Wisconsin."

.. It's preposterous to think .. if Walker was Gov right now, COVID cases might be manageable right now.

[The Sultan]

I agree, Evers has not done well.  He's done mediocre, grading on a curve that's bad.

If I could advise him .. I would tell him to wave a white flag.   I would have Evers figuratively prostrate himself to Vos in the media, and downright beg him to hold a meeting where he (Evers) would agree to whatever plan Vos wanted in this time of need.

"Look, Vos and his team are going to stop every safety plan that comes from my office.  Wisconsin is on fire right now, we need a state-wide effort, and I'll do whatever he wants for the sake of Wisconsin."

.. It's preposterous to think .. if Walker was Gov right now, COVID cases might be manageable right now.

Or just say, "I am going to walk over to the Assembly at 8:00 AM tomorrow morning so we can begin negotiations because it is beyond time for us to act,"  and then march across the Capitol to the Speaker's office.

Or whatever.  Be more demonstrative.

But instead he just does everything virtually, reading from prepared remarks, and comes off as not willing to fight.  For a guy who isn't exactly "exciting," his actions are just reinforcing what all his critics say about him.

[Warriors4ever]

President Bartlet did that on the West Wing....

[Mutaman]

That judge was appointed by Walker in 2015.

Trying to remember the last time I read about a legal decision and wasn't able to guess who had appointed the judge . Pretty sad comment on our judiciary. Better to know the judge than to know the law.

[Jockey]

I agree, Evers has not done well.  He's done mediocre, grading on a curve that's bad.

If I could advise him .. I would tell him to wave a white flag.   I would have Evers figuratively prostrate himself to Vos in the media, and downright beg him to hold a meeting where he (Evers) would agree to whatever plan Vos wanted in this time of need.

"Look, Vos and his team are going to stop every safety plan that comes from my office.  Wisconsin is on fire right now, we need a state-wide effort, and I'll do whatever he wants for the sake of Wisconsin."

.. It's preposterous to think .. if Walker was Gov right now, COVID cases might be manageable right now.

Or....

since Rs control both houses, they could pass anything they want at any time.

As far as Walker is concerned, we wouldn't even have the bare minimum of a mask mandate now if he was governor.