Wisconsin

[GooooMarquette]

They won't be if we don't stop setting new records for new cases.

Its like you're being willingly stupid.

Yeah. I keep letting myself get baited by him, and need to stop.

[pacearrow02]

Yeah. I keep letting myself get baited by him, and need to stop.

Because I don't let inaccurate comments go unchallenged means I'm baiting you?

When MU82 and you said NC and MN have done Such a good job handling the pandemic I was interested to see how well it was actually going so looked up the numbers.  Was surprised to see that for how well your two states have done mine has actually done better up til this point when it comes to keeping people alive, that's all.

[GooooMarquette]

Because I don't let inaccurate comments go unchallenged means I'm baiting you?

When MU82 and you said NC and MN have done Such a good job handling the pandemic I was interested to see how well it was actually going so looked up the numbers.  Was surprised to see that for how well your two states have done mine has actually done better up til this point when it comes to keeping people alive, that's all.

I did not make inaccurate comments. You first said that Minnesota and Wisconsin's seven day moving averages were 'the same.' I proved that you were wrong and explained why Minnesota's early numbers were worse. Then you pivoted back and looked at overall numbers, which I had already explained.

As I said, if you are happy being in Wisconsin with the way things are going, good for you. I am happy not to be there right now.

[pacearrow02]

I did not make inaccurate comments. You first said that Minnesota and Wisconsin's seven day moving averages were 'the same.' I proved that you were wrong and explained why Minnesota's early numbers were worse. Then you pivoted back and looked at overall numbers, which I had already explained.

As I said, if you are happy being in Wisconsin with the way things are going, good for you. I am happy not to be there right now.

Yes you really made me look like a fool by breaking down the 7 day avg and showing the .2 difference.  Sorry I rounded to the nearest whole number.

[GooooMarquette]

Yes you really made me look like a fool by breaking down the 7 day avg and showing the .2 difference.  Sorry I rounded to the nearest whole number.

I did not intend to make you look like a fool. I simply wanted to correct an error.

Peace.

[MU82]

NC has been trending in the right direction for some time now. Wisconsin has been trending in the wrong way.

Look at any list of states headed in the wrong direction, and Wisconsin is high on it.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/03/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/index.html#cases_casesinlast7days

Or you can argue just to argue.

[Hards Alumni]

NC has been trending in the right direction for some time now. Wisconsin has been trending in the wrong way.

Look at any list of states headed in the wrong direction, and Wisconsin is high on it.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/03/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/index.html#cases_casesinlast7days

Or you can argue just to argue.

Bad faith arguments, goal post shifting... ya know, just a typical day here at scoop

[pacearrow02]

Bad faith arguments, goal post shifting... ya know, just a typical day here at scoop

Bad faith arguments and goal post shifting?  By simply pointing to the data?

I wasn't even trying to have an argument but rather to agree with Goo that MN and WI are doing fairly well. 

NC can't even be in the same sentence as MN or WI so not sure what MU82 was talking about.

[The Sultan]

Wisconsin isn't doing fairly well.  It's a disaster.

[pacearrow02]

Wisconsin isn't doing fairly well.  It's a disaster.

It's got the potential of becoming a disaster depending on demographics of these historically high daily case counts.

The data suggests that for the first 8 months of this pandemic there are few places you would rather be.  Hopefully we close this out better then Woj closes out a typical BE
Conference season.

[tower912]

Close out?  We as a nation are half way through at best.    Unless the latest wake up call is actually heeded.

[pacearrow02]

Close out?  We as a nation are half way through at best.    Unless the latest wake up call is actually heeded.

In regards to Wisconsin hospitalization peak is expected in next 7-10 days.  Hopefully after that we see a steady decline in numbers.

[jesmu84]

In regards to Wisconsin hospitalization peak is expected in next 7-10 days.  Hopefully after that we see a steady decline in numbers.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

You need to include the next line of Andy's dialogue, which is "Is it deliberate?"

Yes, yes it is.

[mu_hilltopper]

A peak would imply a change in behavior is coming.  I think there'll be a long, upwards plateau in Wisconsin instead.

I think the attitude, especially in rural areas .. is they are tired of it all.  And not enough people are dying to actually make people change their practices.   Most people live, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

(I also wonder about the impact of (fewer) in-person funerals.  I've attended two virtual funerals and .. it's 80% less sad.  Just another sad story on TV, let's see what's on next, eh.)

Gonna be a long long journey.

[pbiflyer]

From a friend in northern Wisconsin:

up at our cabin in far N Wisconsin, this whole summer most locals were not wearing masks, now this morning at the market/in town, it's magic, every single person in town is wearing a mask, about time !

[The Sultan]

I see more mask wearing.

But I also see way too much risky behavior.

[injuryBug]

From a friend in northern Wisconsin:

up at our cabin in far N Wisconsin, this whole summer most locals were not wearing masks, now this morning at the market/in town, it's magic, every single person in town is wearing a mask, about time !

For many covid was not real until it hit close to home.  Maybe this surge is a wake up call!!

[GooooMarquette]

It is too early to talk about a peak in hospitalizations when the number of new cases is still increasing. Once WI has seen a clear plateau (and hopefully downward trajectory) in new cases, the peak in hospitalizations will likely occur a week or two later.

[pbiflyer]

For many covid was not real until it hit close to home.  Maybe this surge is a wake up call!!

Not for some people.
Sen. Ron Johnson Took COVID Test En Route To Wisconsin Fundraising Dinner. It Was Positive.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ron-johnson-covid-positive-fundraising-dinner-wisconsin_n_5f78ec9bc5b649e564b3a101?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=main_fb&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063&fbclid=IwAR12k5oxxm95NsqRHMVNIV6G87VkgKu9Ln5PeMeNQxJXImaV8SJe9WfGo7o

[injuryBug]

Not for some people.
Sen. Ron Johnson Took COVID Test En Route To Wisconsin Fundraising Dinner. It Was Positive.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ron-johnson-covid-positive-fundraising-dinner-wisconsin_n_5f78ec9bc5b649e564b3a101?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=main_fb&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063&fbclid=IwAR12k5oxxm95NsqRHMVNIV6G87VkgKu9Ln5PeMeNQxJXImaV8SJe9WfGo7o

I know how stupid I had to listen to his comments on the news last night a few times to see if he was really that dumb.  Just respect others if sick is that so hard to ask. 
My wife who is a teacher just made the comment that teachers in her building are healthy at the start of October for first time cause kids are actually staying home when sick

[MU82]

Not for some people.
Sen. Ron Johnson Took COVID Test En Route To Wisconsin Fundraising Dinner. It Was Positive.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ron-johnson-covid-positive-fundraising-dinner-wisconsin_n_5f78ec9bc5b649e564b3a101?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=main_fb&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063&fbclid=IwAR12k5oxxm95NsqRHMVNIV6G87VkgKu9Ln5PeMeNQxJXImaV8SJe9WfGo7o

What an effen d-bag.

[Hards Alumni]

Bad faith arguments and goal post shifting?  By simply pointing to the data?

I wasn't even trying to have an argument but rather to agree with Goo that MN and WI are doing fairly well. 

NC can't even be in the same sentence as MN or WI so not sure what MU82 was talking about.

[GooooMarquette]

As of today, the 7-day deaths per 100,000 population are 1.6 in WI and 1.2 in MN...a 33% difference. The gap in new cases continues to grow as well.

[pacearrow02]

As of today, the 7-day deaths per 100,000 population are 1.6 in WI and 1.2 in MN...a 33% difference. The gap in new cases continues to grow as well.

With that 33% difference in 7-day death it will only take about 6 years to catch Minnesota in overall deaths.

Looking forward to daily updates for the next 1900+ days