Wisconsin

[tower912]

The huge spike in cases around college campuses doesn't apply in Wisconsin?

[Hards Alumni]

But that's not where it is coming from.  From what I have been told, the hospitalizations are being traced back to gatherings (family gatherings, bars, etc.) dating back into the summer.

This is a really hot take that doesn't pass the sniff test.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The huge spike in cases around college campuses doesn't apply in Wisconsin?

The spike in cases yes, but not the resulting hospitalizations or deaths.

This is a really hot take that doesn't pass the sniff test.

Well I'm just going by what I have heard locally.  The people in the hospital currently are by and large NOT being traced to K-12 cases or colleges / universities, but to private gatherings where people were not properly masked or distanced.

[GB Warrior]

For what it's worth, in the past several weeks, the U29 groups have decreased or flattened (at an untenably high level, mind you) as opposed to the others growing much faster. The total volume still heavily skews young though, and that's not to say that the old aren't getting it from the young.

Moral of the story is Wisconsin is failing all the way around.

[Jockey]

For what it's worth, in the past several weeks, the U29 groups have decreased or flattened (at an untenably high level, mind you) as opposed to the others growing much faster. The total volume still heavily skews young though, and that's not to say that the old aren't getting it from the young.

Moral of the story is Wisconsin is failing all the way around.

But at least conservatives are suing to stop the mask mandate. That should improve things.

[The Lens]

We're in week #5 of full time face to face learning at our grade school and not one case.  Kids & teachers wearing masks 100% + maintaining some distance does help.

[GB Warrior]

But at least conservatives are suing to stop the mask mandate. That should improve things.

And Trump seems dead set at killing my family back home by introducing a superspreader event to the area.

[Hards Alumni]

But at least conservatives are suing to stop the mask mandate. That should improve things.

I'm very close to saying screw it, let them have their way, and then shutting off the hospitals in the big cities from non-mask mandate counties.  They can overwhelm their 'heroes' while we treat ours with respect.

At some point, you gotta let the Johnny stick his finger in the electrical outlet to learn a lesson.

[pacearrow02]

I'm very close to saying screw it, let them have their way, and then shutting off the hospitals in the big cities from non-mask mandate counties.  They can overwhelm their 'heroes' while we treat ours with respect.

At some point, you gotta let the Johnny stick his finger in the electrical outlet to learn a lesson.

Hards_ hitting the bottle early tonight!! 

[Hards Alumni]

Hards_ hitting the bottle early tonight!!

Nah, just sick of the stupid debate about masks.  There shouldn't be one because the science is settled.  If folks at this point want to grab the rattlesnake by the tail after being warned repeatedly, then by all means.  But they should stick to their podunk hospitals with third rate rate staff and equipment.  When the beds are full they can cry a river to their masters that are willing to kill them to preserve their 'freedoms'.

Also, I'm still at work finishing up, so no boozy.

[pacearrow02]

Nah, just sick of the stupid debate about masks.  There shouldn't be one because the science is settled.  If folks at this point want to grab the rattlesnake by the tail after being warned repeatedly, then by all means.  But they should stick to their podunk hospitals with third rate rate staff and equipment.  When the beds are full they can cry a river to their masters that are willing to kill them to preserve their 'freedoms'.

Also, I'm still at work finishing up, so no boozy.

Wow, you could not come across more arrogant or obnoxious.  It is these “podunk” hospitals with third rate staff and equipment that you despise who are now being asked to take on Covid positive patients because the urban, high brow, metro areas they surround are being over run and have no beds.

Instead of focusing on the very small % of people who refuse to wear a mask for whatever reason why can’t you just come to the realization that this thing needs to run it’s course.  Mitigation measures are put in place to mitigate, not eradicate.  It’s the worst damn global pandemic of our lifetimes and to treat every person who contracts COVID or god forbid dies from it as a moron who wouldn’t wear a mask says more about you then the freedom thumping hillbillies you are obsessed with.

I regret checking in to see how things were going on this page.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I regret checking in to see how things were going on this page.

We regret it, too.

[Hards Alumni]

Wow, you could not come across more arrogant or obnoxious.  It is these “podunk” hospitals with third rate staff and equipment that you despise who are now being asked to take on Covid positive patients because the urban, high brow, metro areas they surround are being over run and have no beds.

Instead of focusing on the very small % of people who refuse to wear a mask for whatever reason why can’t you just come to the realization that this thing needs to run it’s course.  Mitigation measures are put in place to mitigate, not eradicate.  It’s the worst damn global pandemic of our lifetimes and to treat every person who contracts COVID or god forbid dies from it as a moron who wouldn’t wear a mask says more about you then the freedom thumping hillbillies you are obsessed with.

I regret checking in to see how things were going on this page.

I regret you coming into check to.  You posted a political article that had already been posted.  What did you expect to accomplish?  Did you want to own the libs?  Wow, you did a great job of it.  We are so owned.

I'm glad you think I'm arrogant, but I'm done being nice to people who don't deserve it.  You don't.  The people flaunting the STATE ISSUED MASK MANDATE can rot.  We are 7 months into this pandemic, and they don't care about us.  So why should I continue to give a single crap about them?  They want to go party and live it up, go to bars, go to casinos?  Fine, then deal with the consequences. 

Furthermore, you're a dolt if you think that it is only a very small percentage of people that aren't wearing masks.  I don't know what fantasy world you live in, but I have been all over the state during this.  I have been masked 100% of the time.  I have seen what goes on.  Masks are very much optional despite the signs on the doors of buildings.

The high brow metro area are overrun because of the people in the surrounding areas.  The conservatives that can't be bothered to follow a mandate because it inconveniences the narrative of stupidity they've been fed.  I'm just sick of it all, and you're in front of me defending stupidity.

I have hundreds of clients that have been ostracized from society entirely because of greedy fuch heads, and I'm sick of asking them nicely to put their god damned masks on.

[Jockey]

Nah, just sick of the stupid debate about masks.  There shouldn't be one because the science is settled.  If folks at this point want to grab the rattlesnake by the tail after being warned repeatedly, then by all means.  But they should stick to their podunk hospitals with third rate rate staff and equipment.  When the beds are full they can cry a river to their masters that are willing to kill them to preserve their 'freedoms'.

Also, I'm still at work finishing up, so no boozy.

At the risk of having people like Sultan attack me for politics, the entire mask "problem" is the fault of one person (hint: he is orange).

Your idea is not a terrible one, but would never happen because medical professionals are way better human beings than those who refuse to wear masks.

[Jockey]

I'm glad you think I'm arrogant, but I'm done being nice to people who don't deserve it.  You don't.  The people flaunting the STATE ISSUED MASK MANDATE can rot.  We are 7 months into this pandemic, and they don't care about us.  So why should I continue to give a single crap about them?  They want to go party and live it up, go to bars, go to casinos?  Fine, then deal with the consequences. 

I couldn't have said it better.

[tower912]

At this point, when I see someone maskless, the kindest thing I think is 'moron'.

[GB Warrior]

At this point, when I see someone maskless, the kindest thing I think is 'moron'.

On that note, Hope Hicks...welcome to the resistance

[GooooMarquette]

Wisconsin Is Frazzled by Surging Virus Cases and Growing Campaign Frenzy

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/wisconsin-coronavirus-election.html

They have watched with growing alarm as coronavirus cases have exploded. Three of the four metro areas in the United States with the most cases per capita were in northeast Wisconsin, and one hospital in Green Bay, the third-largest city in the state, was nearly full this week.

Daily statewide deaths because of the coronavirus hit a record on Wednesday when officials reported that 26 people had succumbed to the virus. On Thursday, hospitalizations were at a high since the pandemic began, and more than 3,000 new cases were reported, another record.

The mayor of Oshkosh, Lori Palmeri, said she favored creating some new rules for bars and restaurants, which are free to operate at full capacity. But the City Council was unlikely to agree on any measures that could slow the virus’s spread, she said.

“I’m honestly not sure that anything we do right now will make a difference,” Ms. Palmeri said. “It’s too late.”

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Welcome to the Spotlight, Wisconsin.

[The Lens]

Wow, you could not come across more arrogant or obnoxious.  It is these “podunk” hospitals with third rate staff and equipment that you despise who are now being asked to take on Covid positive patients because the urban, high brow, metro areas they surround are being over run and have no beds.

Instead of focusing on the very small % of people who refuse to wear a mask for whatever reason why can’t you just come to the realization that this thing needs to run it’s course.  Mitigation measures are put in place to mitigate, not eradicate.  It’s the worst damn global pandemic of our lifetimes and to treat every person who contracts COVID or god forbid dies from it as a moron who wouldn’t wear a mask says more about you then the freedom thumping hillbillies you are obsessed with.

I regret checking in to see how things were going on this page.

Pace, I don't know where you live but here in Wisconsin, when you get outside of Milwaukee / Madison DMAs, you sometimes never see masks.  This isn't a lone wolf thing, it's entire communities.  So pardon us if we don't want our hospitals to get over taken when they exhaust their limits.  I live in a pretty conservative area of Milwaukee but everyone is masked up.  Yet when I go to a store in Lake Geneva or Waupaca or Rice Lake, I get weird looks when I walk in with a mask.  And now its all coming home to roost.  It's too bad but it was inevitable, they long said it was the Milwaukee or the Minneapolis disease.   

[injuryBug]

Pace, I don't know where you live but here in Wisconsin, when you get outside of Milwaukee / Madison DMAs, you sometimes never see masks.  This isn't a lone wolf thing, it's entire communities.  So pardon us if we don't want our hospitals to get over taken when they exhaust their limits.  I live in a pretty conservative area of Milwaukee but everyone is masked up.  Yet when I go to a store in Lake Geneva or Waupaca or Rice Lake, I get weird looks when I walk in with a mask.  And now its all coming home to roost.  It's too bad but it was inevitable, they long said it was the Milwaukee or the Minneapolis disease.   

Lens you will be happy to know when I go to the store in Sheboygan County I see 100% masks.  Have been pretty good here about it.
I will have to agree with Pace on 1 thing the virus does need to run its course and i think we are seeing that here just like other areas have.  It had to happen no chance the entire state would avoid the virus.  That said we are getting in rough shape with hospitals so hopefully it slows down soon.
A neighbor in his 50's was in for 6 days.  Was kept in all 6 days to only get oxygen and that was it no other treatment. 

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I will have to agree with Pace on 1 thing the virus does need to run its course and i think we are seeing that here just like other areas have.

I understand this feeling, but does anyone have any data to support this?  We were a hard hit area and cases and hospitalizations are on the rise.  Europe same. Israel same.  I just don’t know what evidence there is that a unchecked spread will be successful.

[injuryBug]

I understand this feeling, but does anyone have any data to support this?  We were a hard hit area and cases and hospitalizations are on the rise.  Europe same. Israel same.  I just don’t know what evidence there is that a unchecked spread will be successful.

not saying unchecked and we never really got hit hard.

Mask up, protect the vulnerable, wash your hands and be smart about things

[pacearrow02]

I understand this feeling, but does anyone have any data to support this?  We were a hard hit area and cases and hospitalizations are on the rise.  Europe same. Israel same.  I just don’t know what evidence there is that a unchecked spread will be successful.

I’m not advocating for unchecked spread.  I’m all for common sense mitigation.  My point is people aren’t perfect.  Despite the warnings of indoor dining, gathering in crowds, etc everyone has a breaking point, this has been going on for 8 months with no end in sight.  So to say these people are morons or insinuate they deserve what they have coming to them if they get an incredibly contagious disease is unfortunate.

I travel the whole state for work and spend the majority of my days in hospitals.  I’ve heard countless stories of people who said they did everything right for the last 3, 4, 5 months but there was this one time they forgot to do this or forgot to do that and they ended up getting it.

People who go to work and follow all the mitigation practices in place, still get it.  People who decided not missing a wedding, funeral, baptism, etc was more important to them then the possibility of getting Covid.  These are the stories I hear and believe represent the vast majority of cases in Wisconsin where good people have been doing their damn best for almost a year in not contracting it but slipped up. 

Not the non mask wearing, freedom loving lunatics a few here focus so heavily on.  I’m not denying those people exist, but there aren’t 100s of thousands of them in this state.

For what it’s worth, while I travel the state whether I’m in Marshfield, Madison, Milwaukee or Door County mask compliance is very consistent.  Consistently good.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I will have to agree with Pace on 1 thing the virus does need to run its course

I'm not sure what this means. Herd immunity?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

People who go to work and follow all the mitigation practices in place, still get it. 

Yep.

People who decided not missing a wedding, funeral, baptism, etc was more important to them then the possibility of getting Covid. 

Well this is a problem.  Sure if you are masked and social distanced.  But too many people aren't - and they should know better.