Wisconsin

[withoutbias]

Oh I see, this country is great so long as your side wins. 

It's like the left on this board has taken truth serum tonight.

Nope.

[Mutaman]

That stands as the single most embarrassing night in the history of our once great country.

I knew back then it would be bad, but never in my wildest dreams did i suspect it would be this bad.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I'm supposed to put on big boy pants. That's rich coming from a Trump hater that hasn't let go of their temper tantrum from the night he was elected.

Nah. Mutant has been brain dead since the ringoutahoya.com days.  Or maybe longer.

[mu_hilltopper]

New record today .. 601 new cases, 23 deaths also a record.

[Jockey]

New record today .. 601 new cases, 23 deaths also a record.

I hope it doesn't get worse, but...... these records occurred 14 days after Republicans opened the state.

[4everwarriors]

Yeah, those fookin' idiots, hey?

[#UnleashSean]

I hope it doesn't get worse, but...... these records occurred 14 days after Republicans opened the state.

Testing is also massively improved since then as well, but let's ignore that part.

[4everwarriors]

Probably should move social distancin' ta 8 ft., hey?

[🏀]

Probably should move social distancin' ta 8 ft., hey?

I think acting like there's a virus still circulating would be a good start. Wisconsin is act like the Supreme Court ruled COVID19 as non-existent.

[MU82]

Testing is also massively improved since then as well, but let's ignore that part.

Did improved testing kill people?

[pacearrow02]

Did improved testing kill people?

As discussed a million times on here death is a lagging indicator.  Not a chance the death count from yesterday came from folks who got infected since the SC ruling.  Keep spinning MU82

[MUDPT]

As discussed a million times on here death is a lagging indicator.  Not a chance the death count from yesterday came from folks who got infected since the SC ruling.  Keep spinning MU82

Source?

[pacearrow02]

Source?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/04/30/texas-coronavirus-deaths-hit-single-day-high-on-eve-of-reopening/amp/

There are about a thousand articles (included is one) talking about death happening on average 3-4 weeks after someone gets the infection.

[MUDPT]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/04/30/texas-coronavirus-deaths-hit-single-day-high-on-eve-of-reopening/amp/

There are about a thousand articles (included is one) talking about death happening on average 3-4 weeks after someone gets the infection.

Can the average of 3 to 4 weeks include someone who contracts in and passes away in a week?

The chances of it happening are definitely not no chance.

[pacearrow02]

Can the average of 3 to 4 weeks include someone who contracts in and passes away in a week?

The chances of it happening are definitely not no chance.

No

[wadesworld]

No

Lol. So "death happens on average 3-4 weeks after someone gets infected" = every person who died from covid-19 was infected 3-4 weeks before they died? Hey, you learn something new every day, I guess!

[#UnleashSean]

Can the average of 3 to 4 weeks include someone who contracts in and passes away in a week?

The chances of it happening are definitely not no chance.

Not very likely. One of the bigger issues with COVID is how slow it kills or gets killed. If people were dropping dead in 2 days, we would have much less of a problem.

[pacearrow02]

Lol. So "death happens on average 3-4 weeks after someone gets infected" = every person who died from covid-19 was infected 3-4 weeks before they died? Hey, you learn something new every day, I guess!

Stupid question gets a stupid answer.  No crap it can include someone within a week or two (maybe less) of getting the infection.

[mu03eng]

I hope it doesn't get worse, but...... these records occurred 14 days after Republicans opened the state.

This was entirely predictable. The single day high count is the result of multiple factors (I'm listing in order of impact):
1. Delayed reporting following a holiday weekend (at least half of these tests we taken at the beginning/middle of last week)
2. Increased testing volume (especially on-demand) which is going to catch more infected, Wednesday also had the highest volume of tests reported (~14,000)
3. Population movement is increasing the spread of the disease so more are being infected and in turn tested.


Item 3 becomes more and more of the driver over the next couple of weeks. Infection rates were going to have to go up as we open up, the key is are rates going up at a sustainable rate and is the rate at which infected are converted to hospitalizations? But those aren't sexy/eye popping stats for people.

[MUDPT]

A story in two parts:

As discussed a million times on here death is a lagging indicator.  Not a chance the death count from yesterday came from folks who got infected since the SC ruling.  Keep spinning MU82

Stupid question gets a stupid answer.  No crap it can include someone within a week or two (maybe less) of getting the infection.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Infection rates were going to have to go up as we open up, the key is are rates going up at a sustainable rate and is the rate at which infected are converted to hospitalizations? But those aren't sexy/eye popping stats for people.

I think states (and the CDC for that matter) would be best served starting to capture and report this in a public way.  I saw a study yesterday on consumer behavior where the most cited stat for 'feeling safe' to return to work/shop/open/etc is lower case numbers. 

The govt & leaders need to start communicating differently now that we are in a new phase of this.  It's not just the media....in many cases its just whats available.

[mu03eng]

Lol. So "death happens on average 3-4 weeks after someone gets infected" = every person who died from covid-19 was infected 3-4 weeks before they died? Hey, you learn something new every day, I guess!

The time to death curve with Covid is extremely shifted to the longer duration. Of known Covid fatalities less than 1% happened in less than 10 days from estimated time of initial infection. Based on my preliminary analysis of the New York data sets, it appears death volumes are correlated to early in the learning experience AND the utilization of hospital systems. Meaning, we are developing better interventions so people who would have died in March are now being saved and that as long as a hospital doesn't get overwhelmed the majority of patients can be saved.

As a note, some of the folks dying now were sustained for over 6 weeks. Very tragic, but Covid is very slowly becoming less deadly than it was previously.

[mu03eng]

A story in two parts:

Ah snap

[pacearrow02]

A story in two parts:

Fair enough, should have used "unlikely" but I think we're all smart enough to understand the gist of the original statement.

[mu03eng]

I think states (and the CDC for that matter) would be best served starting to capture and report this in a public way.  I saw a study yesterday on consumer behavior where the most cited stat for 'feeling safe' to return to work/shop/open/etc is lower case numbers. 

The govt & leaders need to start communicating differently now that we are in a new phase of this.  It's not just the media....in many cases its just whats available.

Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately the data has become politicized up the ying yang. Also, I've found that the general population understands zero order stats (totals, average, etc) but once you start getting into first and second order stats (variance, rates, utilization, etc). Let's not even talk about higher order stats like skewness.