Wisconsin

[Chili]

This is misleading. There are no pronounced second wave spikes in any of the major infected countries in Europe. South Korea has had positive retests but they don't know if that's virus duration or testing failure.

Japan is concerning, but Hokkaido for example, had a lockdown period shorter than the US already has experienced (much less into May) and their schools opened after basically a month.

Singapore's issue is with migrant workers who live in a cramped crowded conditions and were never really tested to begin with. I think they are like 2/3 of the cases in total in Singapore.

Second waves merit caution, but it's not some widespread unavoidable issue, especially not given the US's measures and strategies thus far

On Friday Italy recorded 3,786 new infections - a 4 day high.

[pbiflyer]

Where are you seeing the increased testing? It has been about 150k a day for quite a while. To make a statistical difference that would have to increase quite a bit.
I have been using a couple sites for numbers but I am open for better reporting sites for info.

[forgetful]

Where are you seeing the increased testing? It has been about 150k a day for quite a while. To make a statistical difference that would have to increase quite a bit.
I have been using a couple sites for numbers but I am open for better reporting sites for info.

I was referring mostly to clearing backlogs of old tests.

[pbiflyer]

I was referring mostly to clearing backlogs of old tests.

OK, thanks!

[mu_hilltopper]

Watching an interview .. Wisconsin's unemployment rate is going up 1% every 3 days and is expected to hit 20% on May 1st.   The height is predicted to be 27%.

Jaw dropping.

[forgetful]

Watching an interview .. Wisconsin's unemployment rate is going up 1% every 3 days and is expected to hit 20% on May 1st.   The height is predicted to be 27%.

Jaw dropping.

This might be better an in "economy thread," but honestly, how long does it take to unwind something like that?

[mu_hilltopper]

This might be better an in "economy thread," but honestly, how long does it take to unwind something like that?

I (optimistically) think that half the people laid off will get back to work by September.   The next quarter of people will take a year.  The final quarter will be recover like the 2008 recession .. 200-400k per month for years.

[The Sultan]

The Badger Bounce Back Plan was announced today.  Don't know exactly what this means and how long it will take to move through the phases...

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/WIGOV/2020/04/20/file_attachments/1431305/Badger%20Bounce%20Back%20PlanFINAL.pdf

[4everwarriors]

Considerin' weave all takin' a major Warrior Wallop, it'el bee a long whyel, aina?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Considerin' weave all takin' a major Warrior Wallop, it'el bee a long whyel, aina?

You'll be fine, Ricky Stratton.

[injuryBug]

The Badger Bounce Back Plan was announced today.  Don't know exactly what this means and how long it will take to move through the phases...

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/WIGOV/2020/04/20/file_attachments/1431305/Badger%20Bounce%20Back%20PlanFINAL.pdf

This should have been released with the extended safer at home date.  would have cleared things up a lot better. 

[reinko]

Watching an interview .. Wisconsin's unemployment rate is going up 1% every 3 days and is expected to hit 20% on May 1st.   The height is predicted to be 27%.

Jaw dropping.

This also (I imagine) includes gig workers like my retired dad who drives Uber, who never qualified for UI before, but now does.  I am not unemployed truther by any means, but it certainly has to be a factor.

[The Sultan]

This should have been released with the extended safer at home date.  would have cleared things up a lot better. 

I agree.  I think last weeks order may have been rushed to get out ahead of the President.

[MUfan12]

Considerin' weave all takin' a major Warrior Wallop, it'el bee a long whyel, aina?

Badgers don't do anything fast, hey

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Badgers don't do anything fast, hey

Bravo!  Well done.

[injuryBug]

I agree.  I think last weeks order may have been rushed to get out ahead of the President.

That was a huge mistake by Evers then.  You come and say you are evaluating the outline put forth by the president and will come up with the next steps for Wisconsin asap.  Shows you are putting thought into it.
Not that difficult. 

[ZiggysFryBoy]

That was a huge mistake by Evers then.  You come and say you are evaluating the outline put forth by the president and will come up with the next steps for Wisconsin asap.  Shows you are putting thought into it.
Not that difficult.

Jazzed about the plan.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Both UW Health and Meriter, 2 of the big 3 hospital/medical groups in Madison announced salary reductions for doctors and execs today, plus hour reductions for staff.  Revenue is plummeting from the lack of procedures and lack of COVID patients (the latter is a good thing.)

https://wkow.com/2020/04/21/unitypoint-health-announces-hours-reductions-limited-furloughs-pay-cuts/

https://wkow.com/2020/04/21/paycuts-for-uw-health-doctors-senior-leaders-reduction-in-hours-announced/

[Jockey]

Both UW Health and Meriter, 2 of the big 3 hospital/medical groups in Madison announced salary reductions for doctors and execs today, plus hour reductions for staff.  Revenue is plummeting from the lack of procedures and lack of COVID patients (the latter is a good thing.)

https://wkow.com/2020/04/21/unitypoint-health-announces-hours-reductions-limited-furloughs-pay-cuts/

https://wkow.com/2020/04/21/paycuts-for-uw-health-doctors-senior-leaders-reduction-in-hours-announced/

Just bad management.

Prepare for Covid, stock up on PPE for Covid, and then run the hospital as you normally would until it is necessary to restrict non-essential surgery. If, and when that happens, you have everything in place to deal with the virus.

[rocky_warrior]

Both UW Health and Meriter, 2 of the big 3 hospital/medical groups in Madison announced salary reductions for doctors and execs today, plus hour reductions for staff.  Revenue is plummeting from the lack of procedures and lack of COVID patients (the latter is a good thing.)

I don't think WI restricted elective procedures (and maybe that wasn't your point) - this is because people didn't want to get them, or the hospitals themselves decided to cut them out.
https://www.facs.org/covid-19/legislative-regulatory/executive-orders

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I don't think WI restricted elective procedures (and maybe that wasn't your point) - this is because people didn't want to get them, or the hospitals themselves decided to cut them out.
https://www.facs.org/covid-19/legislative-regulatory/executive-orders

I was just sharing the news.  UW hospital is a level 1 trauma center.  Meriter is one of 2 maternity units in madison.  Its just news, presented with no underlying comments.

I think Froedert and some of the Milwaukee area health systems are having issues too, but i could be wrong.  Unleash and bo's masseuse can comment on that.

[mu03eng]

I don't think WI restricted elective procedures (and maybe that wasn't your point) - this is because people didn't want to get them, or the hospitals themselves decided to cut them out.
https://www.facs.org/covid-19/legislative-regulatory/executive-orders

Wisconsin didn't order the end of elective procedures but they consume PPE, take up beds that were converted to Covid beds and expand contact circles. Are you guys saying that hospitals shouldn't preserve PPE, prepare for the surge(another one?) and limit interactions?

[Jockey]

Wisconsin didn't order the end of elective procedures but they consume PPE, take up beds that were converted to Covid beds and expand contact circles. Are you guys saying that hospitals shouldn't preserve PPE, prepare for the surge(another one?) and limit interactions?

I didn't say that.

[mu03eng]

I didn't say that.

So how is it bad management?

[Hards Alumni]

Wisconsin didn't order the end of elective procedures but they consume PPE, take up beds that were converted to Covid beds and expand contact circles. Are you guys saying that hospitals shouldn't preserve PPE, prepare for the surge(another one?) and limit interactions?

This is a trap question, but I like it.