Wisconsin

[Mr. Nielsen]

Election results are surprising

Disappointing. Yet, not surprising.

[Jockey]

Election results are surprising

Horrible news for Trump and Vos.

Great news for honest people.

[wadesworld]

Big win.  The state got a little bit better today.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Horrible news for Trump and Vos.

Great news for honest people.

[The Sultan]

My guess is that if it were a Republican presidential primary running against an incumbant Democrat, Kelly would have won. 

[GB Warrior]

Surprised Abele's money won here in Milwaukee but overcoming the suppression attempts for the SC seat is big.

[HutchwasClutch]

My guess is that if it were a Republican presidential primary running against an incumbant Democrat, Kelly would have won.

You don't have to guess, you're exactly right.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I'm not a Wisconsinite, but if this was a fait accompli, why did the legislature not delay the vote. 

[mu_hilltopper]

I need to see more data about winners stemming from the Dem primary race.

I mean .. that race has been over for 2-3 weeks.   There's zero excitement, zero campaign events, no big advertising push.  Few should have felt the "need" or urge to vote for race that's over.

[The Sultan]

Well that's true too.

[wadesworld]

I'll give credit where credit is due. They held the SC seat and they suppressed voters in the most impressive way I've seen in my lifetime. Yet they're still giving up the seat.

Good job Wisconsin. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

I'll give credit where credit is due. They held the SC seat and they suppressed voters in the most impressive way I've seen in my lifetime. Yet they're still giving up the seat.

Good job Wisconsin. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

It is.

[mu_hilltopper]

It's interesting that there were 3 judges appointed by Scott Walker on the ballot today.  All 3 lost.

[GB Warrior]

It's interesting that there were 3 judges appointed by Scott Walker on the ballot today.  All 3 lost.

In a sense, Scott Walker still defines politics in this state. I mean, I voted for Evers and agree with him on most policy, but his most redeeming feature is that he's not Scott Walker.

[Jockey]

I'm not a Wisconsinite, but if this was a fait accompli, why did the legislature not delay the vote.

One reason - to suppress the vote to favor Kelly.

[Mr. Nielsen]

ain't no fun, if the homies can't have none

[rocket surgeon]

It's interesting that there were 3 judges appointed by Scott Walker on the ballot today.  All 3 lost.

this wasn't the most represented election, but who's fault is that? 

[The Sultan]

My guess is that if it were a Republican presidential primary running against an incumbant Democrat, Kelly would have won. 

OK looking at the final vote numbers, I was wrong about this.  Also looking at SW Wisconsin, which has been traditionally Democratic, but swung for Trump in '16, they went for the liberal candidate this time.  Repubicans are right to be concerned.

[MUDPT]

Dems seemed way more organized. My wife and I got texts from their candidates every day leading up to the election. Nothing from the conservative side.

[MU82]

Dems seemed way more organized. My wife and I got texts from their candidates every day leading up to the election. Nothing from the conservative side.

They probably didn't think they needed to. Kelly was endorsed fully by the president, and the election was rigged to suppress the vote.

This is continuing a trend dating back more than 2 years of Trump-backed candidates either losing in states/counties/districts that he had won or barely winning in states/counties/districts that he had dominated.

[Hards Alumni]

Let's not read too much into this.  Wisconsin is a coin flip every time there is a vote.

[MU82]

Let's not read too much into this.  Wisconsin is a coin flip every time there is a vote.

I realize it. Anything can happen in November, especially if the vote is suppressed. But the fact is that it DOES continue a trend, one that has been pretty big in Wisconsin, too, if the most recent governor's race is included.

[mu_hilltopper]

Some numbers for last few SCOWIS elections:

2016-  (Pres Primary / high turnout)
Bradley (R) - 1025k
Kloppenburg (D) - 929k

2017 -
Ziegler  (R) ..  492k ran unopposed

2018-
Dallet - 556k (D)
Screnock- 441k  (R)


2019 -
Hagedorn - 605k  (R)
Neubauer - 600k (D)

2020 -
Karofsky - 855k (D)
Kelly - 693k (R)

250k more D's voted, 93k more R's voted in 2020 vs 2019. 

But turnout vs. 2016 was way down, 170k fewer D's, 336k fewer R's. 

The mix of Pres Primary races in 2016 vs 2020 explains a lot, of course.


In conclusion, who knows what happens in November. 

[Hards Alumni]

Some numbers for last few SCOWIS elections:

2016-  (Pres Primary / high turnout)
Bradley (R) - 1025k
Kloppenburg (D) - 929k

2017 -
Ziegler  (R) ..  492k ran unopposed

2018-
Dallet - 556k (D)
Screnock- 441k  (R)


2019 -
Hagedorn - 605k  (R)
Neubauer - 600k (D)

2020 -
Karofsky - 855k (D)
Kelly - 693k (R)

250k more D's voted, 93k more R's voted in 2020 vs 2019. 

But turnout vs. 2016 was way down, 170k fewer D's, 336k fewer R's. 

The mix of Pres Primary races in 2016 vs 2020 explains a lot, of course.


In conclusion, who knows what happens in November.

Ha, I was in the process of typing out something very similar.  Neubauer lost to Hagedorn, so to call this a trend is a tad misleading.

[GB Warrior]

Let's not read too much into this.  Wisconsin is a coin flip every time there is a vote.

It is, but their digital game has received a lot of attention. The turnover is impressive given the national race was effectively DOA in the weeks leading up and due to Covid.

Dems should feel good about where their organization is at right now. Took a lot of Ls leading up to this election and still came out strong. Lots of work to do for November and some big hurdles, but for once they didn't fall flat on their faces.