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Justin Smith from Indiana will graduate and transfer, eligible immediately. Grew up in Buffalo Grove. Definitely a guy Marquette should target, averaged 10 pts and 5 rebounds last year. Only is 6'7" so would be ideal guy to replace Bailey should he stay pro and ease Justin Lewis transition to college.

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Based on MU not really popping up on any transfer lists lately, I am hopeful the staff is confident in 3 things:

1) DJ is getting a waiver

2) Bailey is coming back

3) There is only 1 scholarship available, and that is going to difference maker only (Mane/Etienne/or a TBD re-classifying or transfer). 

1 being wrong would be a disaster.

2 being wrong would be bad, but way worse if 1 is wrong too.

The only way 3 makes sense based on recent activity is that the staff is confident in 1 and 2. 
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Quote from: marquette20 on May 22, 2020, 10:43:29 AM
Justin Smith from Indiana will graduate and transfer, eligible immediately. Grew up in Buffalo Grove. Definitely a guy Marquette should target, averaged 10 pts and 5 rebounds last year. Only is 6'7" so would be ideal guy to replace Bailey should he stay pro and ease Justin Lewis transition to college.

I'd like if we got involved too. I think we will need the help.
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Quote from: marquette20 on May 22, 2020, 10:43:29 AM
Justin Smith from Indiana will graduate and transfer, eligible immediately. Grew up in Buffalo Grove. Definitely a guy Marquette should target, averaged 10 pts and 5 rebounds last year. Only is 6'7" so would be ideal guy to replace Bailey should he stay pro and ease Justin Lewis transition to college.

Would be a great get. Not convinced the staff is still in on more transfers, though

muguru

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 22, 2020, 11:10:12 AM
I'd like if we got involved too. I think we will need the help.

I'd be all over Justin Smith.
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We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

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Quote from: Tha Hound on May 22, 2020, 11:16:34 AM
Would be a great get. Not convinced the staff is still in on more transfers, though

I think they would be if the right guy came free..this might be one..be perfect cuz he's a grad transfer so he can help this year
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We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

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WhiteTrash

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 22, 2020, 10:52:50 AM
Based on MU not really popping up on any transfer lists lately, I am hopeful the staff is confident in 3 things:

1) DJ is getting a waiver

2) Bailey is coming back

3) There is only 1 scholarship available, and that is going to difference maker only (Mane/Etienne/or a TBD re-classifying or transfer). 

Is DJ getting a waiver even a remote possibility? I know everyone (including Hausers) ask but I don't see it happening.

Bailey coming back makes sense.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 22, 2020, 11:37:11 AM
Is DJ getting a waiver even a remote possibility? I know everyone (including Hausers) ask but I don't see it happening.

Bailey coming back makes sense.

Dj took half the year off due to mental health reasons. Seems like there's at least sound reasoning to get him eligible in December or January
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Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 22, 2020, 11:37:11 AM
Is DJ getting a waiver even a remote possibility? I know everyone (including Hausers) ask but I don't see it happening.

Bailey coming back makes sense.

I am not the NCAA, but generally they've shown willingness to provide waivers when mental health issues are involved. 

If DJ doesn't get a waiver, there is a pretty good chance he never plays for Marquette. So we damn well better hope he gets one. 
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 22, 2020, 11:10:12 AM
I'd like if we got involved too. I think we will need the help.

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Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 22, 2020, 11:37:11 AM
Is DJ getting a waiver even a remote possibility? I know everyone (including Hausers) ask but I don't see it happening.

Bailey coming back makes sense.

I think the staff is pretty confident that he gets a waiver
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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 22, 2020, 11:39:44 AM
I am not the NCAA, but generally they've shown willingness to provide waivers when mental health issues are involved. 

If DJ doesn't get a waiver, there is a pretty good chance he never plays for Marquette. So we damn well better hope he gets one.

How much of a "given" is this?  I've only really seen it mentioned here, if he were a lottery pick or even a projected first rounder I could see it, but all I'm seeing with him is late second round to undrafted.  It's not like he's BB level old, he's still only 19 (turns 20 in August).  He could sit out a year, play a year and still be drafted as a 21 year old, which isn't exactly ancient.  If he were dead set on making  $$$ ASAP, he probably just would have gone to Europe straight from OSU. 

Now I'm sure there's a chance he goes pro if he doesn't get the waiver, but I don't think it's the foregone conclusion that seems to have been implied here.
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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 22, 2020, 11:39:44 AM
If DJ doesn't get a waiver, there is a pretty good chance he never plays for Marquette. So we damn well better hope he gets one.

I've seen you post this many times.  Do you have a source on this?  Just curious what the origin is, and whether this is a legit concern or unfounded rumor.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on May 22, 2020, 11:48:47 AM
I've seen you post this many times.  Do you have a source on this?  Just curious what the origin is, and whether this is a legit concern or unfounded rumor.

DJ has said as much. 
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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 22, 2020, 11:49:26 AM
DJ has said as much.

I haven't seen it.  Do you have a link or at least remember where you heard/read it?

muguru

Quote from: Its DJOver on May 22, 2020, 11:47:56 AM
How much of a "given" is this?  I've only really seen it mentioned here, if he were a lottery pick or even a projected first rounder I could see it, but all I'm seeing with him is late second round to undrafted.  It's not like he's BB level old, he's still only 19 (turns 20 in August).  He could sit out a year, play a year and still be drafted as a 21 year old, which isn't exactly ancient.  If he were dead set on making  $$$ ASAP, he probably just would have gone to Europe straight from OSU. 

Now I'm sure there's a chance he goes pro if he doesn't get the waiver, but I don't think it's the foregone conclusion that seems to have been implied here.

I did see a mock draft awhile ago that had Carton going 19th in the 2021 draft
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 22, 2020, 11:46:40 AM
I think the staff is pretty confident that he gets a waiver
I hope they are right. Without him and Bailey, I could see a sub .500 season. Just trying to be realistic.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on May 22, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
I haven't seen it.  Do you have a link or at least remember where you heard/read it?

Don't have the link handy, but I can try to find it later when I have some time.  Guru can probably find it quicker, frankly.  Came from an article before he decided on his post-OSU destination.  Paraphrasing, but he basically said that he was considering going directly pro, and if he did go college route, he would like pivot back to pro is he was unable to get a waiver to play immediately, and he had minimal interest in sitting a full season after just sitting half of one. 

I am sure the staff is well aware of the situation, and perhaps he's changed his stance on that.  But the the fact that Wojo has basically stopped pursuing transfers with the chance that as many as 3 spots could still be open makes me think they're confident he's getting a waiver.  Maybe wishful thinking.

I also continue to mention it is so everyone doesn't act like its this out of the blue situation if it happens in a few weeks.   
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Its DJOver on May 22, 2020, 11:47:56 AM
How much of a "given" is this?  I've only really seen it mentioned here, if he were a lottery pick or even a projected first rounder I could see it, but all I'm seeing with him is late second round to undrafted.  It's not like he's BB level old, he's still only 19 (turns 20 in August).  He could sit out a year, play a year and still be drafted as a 21 year old, which isn't exactly ancient.  If he were dead set on making  $$$ ASAP, he probably just would have gone to Europe straight from OSU. 

Now I'm sure there's a chance he goes pro if he doesn't get the waiver, but I don't think it's the foregone conclusion that seems to have been implied here.

I never said it was a foregone conclusion, I said there is a pretty good chance he never plays for Marquette if he doesn't get a waiver.  Call it maybe 75 pro / 25 sits a year if the waiver is denied?   

DJ may enter his name in the nba draft, but I always took the going pro route as playing overseas, at least initially. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

muguru

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 22, 2020, 12:02:48 PM
Don't have the link handy, but I can try to find it later when I have some time.  Guru can probably find it quicker, frankly.  Came from an article before he decided on his post-OSU destination.  Paraphrasing, but he basically said that he was considering going directly pro, and if he did go college route, he would like pivot back to pro is he was unable to get a waiver to play immediately, and he had minimal interest in sitting a full season after just sitting half of one. 

I am sure the staff is well aware of the situation, and perhaps he's changed his stance on that.  But the the fact that Wojo has basically stopped pursuing transfers with the chance that as many as 3 spots could still be open makes me think they're confident he's getting a waiver.  Maybe wishful thinking.

I also continue to mention it is so everyone doesn't act like its this out of the blue situation if it happens in a few weeks.   

I didn't see that article you're speaking of, but he did do a Q&A on instagram shortly after he committed to MU and if I remember right, someone asked him if he would play this year and he said something to the effect of "I'm not missing a full year of basketball". It was something to that effect. Read into that what you will.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on May 22, 2020, 11:48:47 AM
I've seen you post this many times.  Do you have a source on this?  Just curious what the origin is, and whether this is a legit concern or unfounded rumor.

Not finding the article that contained the quote from DJ at first glance, but I can look harder later.  I know it was posted here somewhere, but lots of posts to sort through.  But here are two articles that its mentioned, including in Ben Steele's JS article when he announced he's going to Marquette.

https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/basketball/examining-ohio-states-hoops-transfers-case-by-case

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2020/04/15/touted-guard-d-j-carton-announces-his-transfer-marquette-ohio-state/5142532002/
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

wadesworld

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 22, 2020, 12:23:25 PM
Not finding the article that contained the quote from DJ at first glance, but I can look harder later.  I know it was posted here somewhere, but lots of posts to sort through.  But here are two articles that its mentioned, including in Ben Steele's JS article when he announced he's going to Marquette.

https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/basketball/examining-ohio-states-hoops-transfers-case-by-case

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2020/04/15/touted-guard-d-j-carton-announces-his-transfer-marquette-ohio-state/5142532002/

That's Potrykus and he's accomplished his mission with you. Stirring up fears in MU fans and trying to paint a player as looking out selfishly for only himself.

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