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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 13, 2020, 11:23:00 AM
Turner and Burton (assuming for a second Burton gets a waiver), would coexist just fine right?  Seem like completely different players to me.  From watching the limited tape of Turner there is - he seems like much more of SG/wing than an option at PG. 

They would coexist just fine. Carton would be the one that would interfere with Burton. If Burton wants to play right away (and I haven't seen anything that would suggest a case for a waiver) then I'm not sure any of his finalists would be thrilled about that. I think all of them are hoping for him to sit out a year and take over in 21-22.
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muguru

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 13, 2020, 11:23:00 AM
Turner and Burton (assuming for a second Burton gets a waiver), would coexist just fine right?  Seem like completely different players to me.  From watching the limited tape of Turner there is - he seems like much more of SG/wing than an option at PG.

Yes, they would be fine together...Turner can and has played some PG, but is mostly a wing/SG
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 11:26:15 AM
Yes, they would be fine together...Turner can and has played some PG, but is mostly a wing/SG

Burton & Turner today would be a hell of a day for Wojo

Uncle Rico

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 13, 2020, 11:25:49 AM
They would coexist just fine. Carton would be the one that would interfere with Burton. If Burton wants to play right away (and I haven't seen anything that would suggest a case for a waiver) then I'm not sure any of his finalists would be thrilled about that. I think all of them are hoping for him to sit out a year and take over in 21-22.

Given the number of transfers out of Wichita State, I bet there is a case for a waiver
"Well, we're all going to die."

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 13, 2020, 10:28:58 AM
Id agree but like u said.  I have no issue with Koby if he can earn time at the 2 or 3 next year.

MU will go with more height at the 3 than Kolby offers almost all of the time next year. Wojo's getting on board with the emphasis on height and especially length on the court. Just look at the freshmen he got and the freshman guard he's still after (Mane).
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: 4everDawson on April 13, 2020, 11:32:26 AM
MU will go with more height at the 3 than Kolby offers almost all of the time next year. Wojo's getting on board with the emphasis on height and especially length on the court. Just look at the freshmen he got and the freshman guard he's still after (Mane).

"If he can earn the time"
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

muguru

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 13, 2020, 11:25:49 AM
They would coexist just fine. Carton would be the one that would interfere with Burton. If Burton wants to play right away (and I haven't seen anything that would suggest a case for a waiver) then I'm not sure any of his finalists would be thrilled about that. I think all of them are hoping for him to sit out a year and take over in 21-22.

Remember though...it SOUNDS like the transfer rule and not having to sit out will pass in May
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

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My predictions:

Turner to Marquette

Carton/Dejulius: one to Marquette and the other to Iowa State, with Carton being the first domino to fall

Burton: Texas Tech

No inside info, just my hunches.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2020, 11:32:09 AM
Given the number of transfers out of Wichita State, I bet there is a case for a waiver

I think its probably a 50/50 shot that the NCAA gives a blanket waiver to all transfers this season considering the circumstances.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 13, 2020, 11:25:49 AM
They would coexist just fine. Carton would be the one that would interfere with Burton. If Burton wants to play right away (and I haven't seen anything that would suggest a case for a waiver) then I'm not sure any of his finalists would be thrilled about that. I think all of them are hoping for him to sit out a year and take over in 21-22.

For sure.  Based on the lack of info we have (surely have to assume the staff has more) on Carton, definitely take Burton if you can get him and worry about Carton later.

I've talked myself into the chance we can get Turner, Burton and Carton, even though I know its not going to happen.  Carton should be natural waiver candidate - Turner and Carton this year.  Carton (if he doesn't go pro) and Burton taking over the backcourt in 21-22 along with Sy after Turner and Koby graduate.

A guy can dream.  Realistically, we'll have a lot more clarity in a few hours.  If I had to choose between Turner and Burton, give me Turner today and then let's land Carton down the road and we have ourselves something cooking.   
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 13, 2020, 11:36:42 AM
"If he can earn the time"

You miss my point. He ain't growing several inches over the summer.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

muguru

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 13, 2020, 11:40:25 AM
I think its probably a 50/50 shot that the NCAA gives a blanket waiver to all transfers this season considering the circumstances.
 

For sure.  Based on the lack of info we have (surely have to assume the staff has more) on Carton, definitely take Burton if you can get him and worry about Carton later.

I've talked myself into the chance we can get Turner, Burton and Carton, even though I know its not going to happen.  Carton should be natural waiver candidate - Turner and Carton this year.  Carton (if he doesn't go pro) and Burton taking over the backcourt in 21-22 along with Sy after Turner and Koby graduate.

A guy can dream.  Realistically, we'll have a lot more clarity in a few hours.  If I had to choose between Turner and Burton, give me Turner today and then let's land Carton down the road and we have ourselves something cooking.   

Burton might be the toughest pull of the 3, but honestly I don't think it's as unrealistic as many think it is. I agree, Turner today, Carton later and let's go! But still going to be greedy and want Burton too.  :D
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

BM1090

Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 11:46:38 AM
Burton might be the toughest pull of the 3, but honestly I don't think it's as unrealistic as many think it is. I agree, Turner today, Carton later and let's go! But still going to be greedy and want Burton too.  :D

I think MU is going to end up in good shape after the transfers all make their decisions, but I think we're going to have to wait a few days longer. My guess is Carton and DeJulius.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 11:46:38 AM
Burton might be the toughest pull of the 3, but honestly I don't think it's as unrealistic as many think it is. I agree, Turner today, Carton later and let's go! But still going to be greedy and want Burton too.  :D

Wanting is one thing.  But acting like it is some major program let down and coaching failure if Wojo only lands 1 of Turner/Burton/Carton is another.  Just keep that in mind, Guru.   ;)
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

muguru

Todd Smith just started following turner on Twitter...I repeat, this is NOT a drill, Todd Smith just started following Turner on Twitter.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Pakuni

Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 11:37:00 AM
Remember though...it SOUNDS like the transfer rule and not having to sit out will pass in May

Yes, but what is less clear is when it will go into effect. The reporting has been that it would be implemented during the 2020-21 season, but whether that means retroactively for kids who've already entered the portal - as opposed to those who do so once the 2020-21 year begins - remains to be seen.
I'm guessing it won't be applied retroactively across the board, but the NCAA will be very generous with waiver requests.

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Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 11:53:55 AM
Todd Smith just started following turner on Twitter...I repeat, this is NOT a drill, Todd Smith just started following Turner on Twitter.

He's also following Burton.

cheebs09

What time is Burton announcing?

I saw Turner at 2 PM CT.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

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Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 11:53:55 AM
Todd Smith just started following turner on Twitter...I repeat, this is NOT a drill, Todd Smith just started following Turner on Twitter.

I mean...all this twitter following could just be as simple as the kid is announcing his decision in 2 hours and the support staff has been giving him a twitter follow the past few days.

Chances are Wojo probably knows where he's going - but maybe Turner truly hasn't told anyone but family to this point.  I don't really read into the twitter follows as anything quite yet.

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 13, 2020, 11:57:07 AM
He's also following Burton.

Exactly.  I am sure part of the recruiting pitch was zoom chats with support staff like Todd, Allison, etc., etc., and a simple twitter follow after those conversations is not really that earthshattering IMO. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

BM1090

Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 11:53:55 AM
Todd Smith just started following turner on Twitter...I repeat, this is NOT a drill, Todd Smith just started following Turner on Twitter.

He follows pretty much everyone MU is recruiting. He also follows Holmes and Warley.

muguru

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 13, 2020, 11:59:17 AM
I mean...all this twitter following could just be as simple as the kid is announcing his decision in 2 hours and the support staff has been giving him a twitter follow the past few days.

Chances are Wojo probably knows where he's going - but maybe Turner truly hasn't told anyone but family to this point.  I don't really read into the twitter follows as anything quite yet.

Exactly.  I am sure part of the recruiting pitch was zoom chats with support staff like Todd, Allison, etc., etc., and a simple twitter follow after those conversations is not really that earthshattering IMO.

Here's the thing though...It's one thing for Coaches to follow players, but when support staff does, it's totally different. For real, when I saw Allison Kellaher following Dawson Garcia, that pretty much told me that he was coming to MU. Support staff does not typically follow recruits without their being a very good reason.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Ben Golds Five

Where is Real Chili?  Locked in the bunker already?  ;D

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 12:07:15 PM
Here's the thing though...It's one thing for Coaches to follow players, but when support staff does, it's totally different. For real, when I saw Allison Kellaher following Dawson Garcia, that pretty much told me that he was coming to MU. Support staff does not typically follow recruits without their being a very good reason.

Yah...gonna disagree with you there.  Support staff follows guys that are being recruited.  Again - I appreciate the info, as do others.  But I don't think it means a whole lot.

We'll find out more in a couple hours.  Fingers crossed on Turner.

Quote from: cheebs09 on April 13, 2020, 11:58:04 AM
What time is Burton announcing?

I saw Turner at 2 PM CT.

I don't think he's said a time.   
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

dad's couch

Quote from: muguru on April 13, 2020, 11:37:00 AM
Remember though...it SOUNDS like the transfer rule and not having to sit out will pass in May

Looks like there's a decision coming but the guy leading it has no idea if it will pass or not.

https://watchstadium.com/no-decision-made-yet-on-ncaas-one-time-transfer-waiver-04-08-2020/

Uncle Rico

I don't follow any of these guys on twitter or Instagram fyi
"Well, we're all going to die."

cheebs09

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2020, 12:20:35 PM
I don't follow any of these guys on twitter or Instagram fyi

Crap. They are both going elsewhere.

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