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[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Junior wouldn't have made that team better. Junior is remembered fondly because of what was around him, not because of what he himself could do.

Junior was, like Koby, a below average point guard. The two were similar in terms of effectiveness. Junior was a little better finishing in the lane but didn't get to or convert at the line as well. Junior had a slightly better assist rate but couldn't shoot the three nearly as well. Both turned it over about the same, both were low-efficiency guys, both had comparable usage. Koby was a much better defender and rebounder.

Considering that what this team needed was additional scoring options, they likely would have been even worse with Junior, who was never much for scoring the basketball.

What the team needed was someone who could move the ball and facilitate offense.  Junior despite his faults did this really well.  Buzz defended him all the time stating ge was an excellent passer and he was, no 4th row passes from junior. He also could use his handle n size to beat presses single handedly. Koby n pressure was a nightmare

[JWags85]

Gard's hilarious on Twitter.

Because its a verified account that hasn't tweeted once?

[The Sultan]

No revisionist history here.  Junior was a step down from some of his MU PG predecessors.  But he did handle the ball well and facilitate offense well. Areas i would give koby a 1 in a 1-10 scale.  Our offense needed ball movement this year.

That's not all on Koby.  It wasn't moving at times when he wasn't on the floor.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

...hope so. A lot of folks are high on Turner, but after missing on RJ Davis, Carton is like a second chance at a top level 1.

Except davis was a combo if not a 2

[The Sultan]

Because its a verified account that hasn't tweeted once?

Gard not saying anything is funnier than when he actually says something.

(I was joking.)

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

That's not all on Koby.  It wasn't moving at times when he wasn't on the floor.

The ball movement with koby vs Sy was black n white, imo

[wadesworld]

I would take Junior over Koby as a point guard.  But I would take Koby over Junior as any other position on a basketball court.  Unfortunately Koby was playing point guard for us last year.

[The Sultan]

The ball movement with koby vs Sy was black n white, imo

Eh...  It moved better but not always productively.  Both weren't very good.

Assist %:   Koby: 21.2, Symir: 25.5 
TO %:  Koby: 23.2, Symir: 31.1

The best PG Marquette had last year was Markus.  Lead the team in assist % at 26.2  and drove his TO% down to 12.6.

[WarriorPride68]

probably the last meaningful update we will get on Burton before he announces today... another follow up post from Brian Snow late last night behind paywall on Xavier board:

As of now, I do NOT think think it will be Xavier. Vibe I get is he is hoping to be eligible right away, and that is not something Xavier wants, and also he wants to be a PG, which is not what his role would be at Xavier. Ultimately I think Texas Tech is the choice, but I do not know for sure.

[MU82]

Thanks Pakuni, and everyone else for their thanks. I know sometimes, with all the twitter and IG follows etc, it might be overkill and a lot of people don't care about those things, but I find it fascinating, and you really can gleen info in recruiting from it. I will continue to post anything relevant I see from the world of CBB.

The next info we all want to see from you is confirmation that we've landed 3 or 4 of these athletes - ha!

Seriously, even though I like giving you some guff when you go over the top (and you like to give it back), add my name to the list of folks who appreciate the updates.

[JWags85]

Gard not saying anything is funnier than when he actually says something.

(I was joking.)

Haha, i figured it was something along those lines.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Eh...  It moved better but not always productively.  Both weren't very good.

Assist %:   Koby: 21.2, Symir: 25.5 
TO %:  Koby: 23.2, Symir: 31.1

The best PG Marquette had last year was Markus.  Lead the team in assist % at 26.2  and drove his TO% down to 12.6.

I begged for Marcus at the PG, he had his issues there but i though we were a better team with marcus at the 1 n sac at the 2.  Less koby the better

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

I would take Junior over Koby as a point guard.  But I would take Koby over Junior as any other position on a basketball court.  Unfortunately Koby was playing point guard for us last year.

Id agree but like u said.  I have no issue with Koby if he can earn time at the 2 or 3 next year.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Take the Koby talk to the ya know...Koby thread.

This thread is about transfers!!  That's why threads have titles.

Any timing indications on when Burton will announce?

I believe Turner is 1pmCT. 

[MU82]

Take the Koby talk to the ya know...Koby thread.

This thread is about transfers!!  That's why threads have titles.

Any timing indications on when Burton will announce?

I believe Turner is 1pmCT.

Re Turner:

Turner announcement at 3 pm ET.

[Newsdreams]

From all the info, looks like:

Burton TT
Turner MU

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Re Turner:

Thanks!  2pmCT it is. 

Here are some junior year Justin Turner highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamBBGPsWys

[wadesworld]

From all the info, looks like:

Burton TT
Turner MU

Any word on Carton?

[BM1090]

From all the info, looks like:

Burton TT
Turner MU

I'm thinking Turner ends up at the other MU. Hope I'm wrong. It could go either way.

[muguru]

probably the last meaningful update we will get on Burton before he announces today... another follow up post from Brian Snow late last night behind paywall on Xavier board:

As of now, I do NOT think think it will be Xavier. Vibe I get is he is hoping to be eligible right away, and that is not something Xavier wants, and also he wants to be a PG, which is not what his role would be at Xavier. Ultimately I think Texas Tech is the choice, but I do not know for sure.

This is interesting...Using deductive reasoning..according to this..X is out, I still say he's not going to Seton Hall, as they only have one scholly left. He wants to play PG..that may well eliminate Texas Tech. Why?? Well for one thing as of this moment they don't even have a scholarship available(you never know if that scares kids off) and he wants to be eligible this year..From what I gather what little chatter there has been about him on the Texas Tech board, they thought Beard would want him to sit out this year and then it would be his show. They have their PG for this year.

He could come in and play PG right away for MU. I also think it's interesting in that shortly after he came out with his announcement times, the MU twitter follows came flowing in...Including from Todd Smith and Allison Kellaher. The interesting one that came in yesterday was Potrykus. That one definitely made me go...hmmm

This may not be as slam dunk for TT as people think.

[Dawson Rental]

Last time Louisville came out of nowhere for a recruit the kid's name was Brian Bowen.
Hmm.

LOL. That is a very interesting point you make.

[The Sultan]

This is interesting...Using deductive reasoning..according to this..X is out, I still say he's not going to Seton Hall, as they only have one scholly left. He wants to play PG..that may well eliminate Texas Tech. Why?? Well for one thing as of this moment they don't even have a scholarship available(you never know if that scares kids off) and he wants to be eligible this year..From what I gather what little chatter there has been about him on the Texas Tech board, they thought Beard would want him to sit out this year and then it would be his show. They have their PG for this year.

He could come in and play PG right away for MU. I also think it's interesting in that shortly after he came out with his announcement times, the MU twitter follows came flowing in...Including from Todd Smith and Allison Kellaher. The interesting one that came in yesterday was Potrykus. That one definitely made me go...hmmm

This may not be as slam dunk for TT as people think.

I know we make fun of this kind of thinking, but maybe Wojo has a couple in the bag and has cooled on Burton. 

[muguru]

I know we make fun of this kind of thinking, but maybe Wojo has a couple in the bag and has cooled on Burton.

Don't think that hasn't crossed my mind..several times. I found the timing of the Prohm unfollow of Carton extremely interesting..

[Newsdreams]

Any word on Carton?

Extremely eerily quiet, know more bout Mane lol

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Turner and Burton (assuming for a second Burton gets a waiver), would coexist just fine right?  Seem like completely different players to me.  From watching the limited tape of Turner there is - he seems like much more of SG/wing than an option at PG.