Transfer portal

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Might not be the right thread, but putting McEwen in the same group as Chartouny is not quite fair.  His shooting number everywhere but from the line were disappointing, but he still averaged 10 points, 5 boards and 3 assists with an injured hand, and being either the best or second best on ball defender.  Chartouny averaged 3 points, 2 boards, and 2 assists, while losing the backup PG position to a combination of Sacar and Sam, when Markus got hurt.  Their relative levels of success at MU are not even close IMO.

Id have taken Chartouney over Koby last year.  Kobys worst trait didnt really show up in the stats in that ball movement stalled in his hands.  Chartouney had more PG instincts in him in that the ball moved n was more often on time and on target.  Koby really really hurt us last year.  Additionally Chartouneys defense was as good as Kobys. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Id have taken Chartouney over Koby last year.  Kobys worst trait didnt really show up in the stats in that ball movement stalled in his hands.  Chartouney had more PG instincts in him in that the ball moved n was more often on time and on target.  Koby really really hurt us last year.  Additionally Chartouneys defense was as good as Kobys.

This is wrong

[Its DJOver]

Id have taken Chartouney over Koby last year.  Kobys worst trait didnt really show up in the stats in that ball movement stalled in his hands.  Chartouney had more PG instincts in him in that the ball moved n was more often on time and on target.  Koby really really hurt us last year.  Additionally Chartouneys defense was as good as Kobys.

Very much disagree, Chartouny had some nice moments in the non-conference, but dropped off a cliff once conference play started.  @Gtown, when Markus got hurt three minutes into the game, Chartouny was only able to claim 11 minutes.  13 points, 9 assist total from the end of January through the remainder of the season (12 game sample size).  Definition of a player that couldn't cut it once the level of competition stepped up.

Koby's shooting percentages were poor, but he helped in other areas.  9 boards against STJ, 11 against BU and Nova each, 8 assist against CU, 9 against Gtown. 

[The Sultan]

Id have taken Chartouney over Koby last year.  Kobys worst trait didnt really show up in the stats in that ball movement stalled in his hands.  Chartouney had more PG instincts in him in that the ball moved n was more often on time and on target.  Koby really really hurt us last year.  Additionally Chartouneys defense was as good as Kobys. 

Wooo. That is a bad basketball thought right there.

[Elonsmusk]

Id have taken Chartouney over Koby last year.  Kobys worst trait didnt really show up in the stats in that ball movement stalled in his hands.  Chartouney had more PG instincts in him in that the ball moved n was more often on time and on target.  Koby really really hurt us last year.  Additionally Chartouneys defense was as good as Kobys.

Wow.  Some dumb things have been said on this board, but this ranks among the dumbest.

[brewcity77]

I dont think Theo took any minutes away from Ed.  Theo is no world beater.  Ed was at times atrocious, the minutes were there to be had.

They played the same position. Wojo didn't use any two-big in 2018-19 and barely used it last year. To get minutes, he had to get them ahead of Theo. Ed was certainly really bad at times, but he was basically the same guy we recruited from Nebraska (a little less efficient last year, but left halfway through the season so a small sample size).

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

We can agree to disagree.  Koby was a traiwreck.  With a capable PG MU is 13-5 in BE last yr or better

[Marquette4life]

Do we know the times of their decisions tomorrow?

[esotericmindguy]

We can agree to disagree.  Koby was a traiwreck.  With a capable PG MU is 13-5 in BE last yr or better

You're using the record to support your argument? Impressive. I think when DJover posted "13 points, 9 assist total from the end of January through the remainder of the season (12 game sample size)." You lost the argument. It's quiet time, take a lap.

[4everwarriors]

One thing on Turner...One of his former teammates at Bowling Green-Jeff Uju is currently a student in MU's dental school 

Eye'll cee watt eye kan due, hey?

[MU82]

Well sure, getting none would be a "nightmare scenario", but I'm not expecting that to happen. Just saying, on the surface when you are a finalist for two of the top 5-10 transfers available, given who you are up against for them(keep in mind this isn't Duke, Kansas etc) not landing even one of them(Burton/Turner) would be incredibly disappointing I'd say. Maybe "nightmare scenario" is too strong, but disappointing. Does that mean I would slam Wojo for it. Nope. Carton and DeJulius would be solid, very solid, but to me just not as good as it could be potentially(at least as how things sit right now). Can we agree on that??

Thanks for backing off saying it's a "nightmare situation" if we get 2 of the 4 transfers we're after, because that was just plain silly.

As for what we can agree on ... if you are right about each player's ability, maybe. But I saw Carton excel against Kentucky and Nova as well as a couple of clips of him in highlights; he looked like a stud at times. I saw Dejulius play really well against Maryland but the other time I saw him he looked a little lost. I haven't seen one second of Burton or Turner. It seems lots of good programs want all 4 of these players, and I have no reason to doubt the judgment of Beard, Prohm, Martin, etc. I'd be thrilled with any 2 of them.

I'm glad all of these decisions will be made in a matter of hours so we can stop speculating on them. If something happens to make all of them delay their choices, THAT would be my nightmare scenario!

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Gang, Coach Wojo has to do something.

He's got a set of three really wonderful recruits in Oso, Garcia and Fields, but so much uncertainty at the guard spot that we don't know whether someone can step up. If we get any of the Top 3, we've got a shot at a pretty good team next year. Without a top transfer, we've got a problem.

If we get a transfer and Karim Mane, WOW.

What we offer is playing time — lots of it — and the chance to be surrounded by some very good recruits. Yeah, other schools offer some variant of this, but I suspect none have quite the combination we do, especially if Fields is as good as promised. The biggest weakness we have is Wojo Coaching up and getting our talent to the next level.

I'm down but not out on Koby. He was injured and he was trying to find his place in a Markus-centric offense. I'm a little more optimistic only because the offense going into next year has to be more distributive and multi-faceted. The good news is that our opponents can't double or triple any one player.

Ultimately, my hope is a transfer is a bridge between now and Dexter Akanno stepping up. And that Dexter and Karim are 2021-2022's starting guards.

Lost me at Fields.

[Newsdreams]

Time to get bunker cleaned up and ready

[muguru]

Time to get bunker cleaned up and ready

This isn't feasible due to current social distancing requirements Also, there isn't much point in going to the bunker if we aren't certain if there's a need to be there...we are gonna have to learn more solid intel first. 

[mileskishnish72]

This is wrong

Very.

[BallBoy]

We can agree to disagree.  Koby was a traiwreck.  With a capable PG MU is 13-5 in BE last yr or better

Sorry but not close. Koby single handedly won us the Purdue game and kept us in Butler. Chart didn't come near to the same production. Don't let you Koby hate blind your basketball judgement.

[wadesworld]

Time to get bunker cleaned up and ready

For multiple reasons?

[Newsdreams]

This isn't feasible due to current social distancing requirements Also, there isn't much point in going to the bunker if we aren't certain if there's a need to be there...we are gonna have to learn more solid intel first. 

Always be negative, hey?

[muguru]

Eye'll cee watt eye kan due, hey?

Please dew doc, hey

[muguru]

Burton just started following an asst Coach from Teas Tech on instagram 

[Markusquette]

Sorry but not close. Koby single handedly won us the Purdue game and kept us in Butler. Chart didn't come near to the same production. Don't let you Koby hate blind your basketball judgement.

Nobody needs to compare Koby to Chartouny to understand he was not a good basketball player last year.

[Uncle Rico]

Burton just started following an asst Coach from Teas Tech on instagram 

He's gone.  Onto the next

[WarriorPride68]

He's gone.  Onto the next

reporting for duty

[muguru]

May be telling how MU is feeling about tomorrow...still reaching out to guys...

Jake
@jakeweingarten
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Southern Miss. transfer Gabe Watson has heard from Maryland, Marquette, Georgetown, Colorado State, Tulane, Tulsa, Mississippi State, San Diego, amongst others, he told @Stockrisers
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Has two years of eligibility remaining. Averaged 13 points per game on 40% shooting.

[Pakuni]

May be telling how MU is feeling about tomorrow...still reaching out to guys...

Jake
@jakeweingarten
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Southern Miss. transfer Gabe Watson has heard from Maryland, Marquette, Georgetown, Colorado State, Tulane, Tulsa, Mississippi State, San Diego, amongst others, he told @Stockrisers
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Has two years of eligibility remaining. Averaged 13 points per game on 40% shooting.

Never stop recruiting.