No Sub for Markus at end

[JakeBarnes]

After the epic collapse last year, losing the Hausers (red flag), and getting drilled in 4 of our last 5 games, and no NCAA wins in previous 5 seasons - fans should be thrilled?  All while having Markus here too?

Seems the fans also don't like Markus.

[mu.n8ball]

Markus did not sound pissed at Wojo during his speech

https://youtu.be/Mjlo4Xiq3qo

[thebigjake]

Buzz took a job in a more powerful conference because he didn't think the new Big East would pan out. And then he turned that "lesser" school into a team that was very competitive and was as good or better than is during his time there.

You also need to realize that a few fans booing or saying mean things on the internet don't matter in real decisions. The fans might hurt a few peoples feelings here and there, but they don't move the needle at all.

So again, if a handful of teenagers affect Wojos career decisions, that's a much bigger indictment of him than the fans.

You might be right, but maybe not.

But regardless he knows about it, and it has to wear on him, how would it not?

A "handful of teenagers"? It's not. It's more than that. Is this your first time on Scoop? You don't think they have people reading these boards? (every MU coach has, btw). And if you had the option of going somewhere else for the same money where you'd be appreciated more, you'd do it. And he will have those options.

Buzz left in part for the reasons you stated, but he also left because he felt unappreciated here. Because he kinda was. Some of his own doing, but still.

But the point is that the narrative about MU is forming, and it's not wrong. Our fanbase is stupid and entitled. Coaches and recruits all have choices, and it doesn't take much to sway a decision one way or another.

[wadesworld]

Markus did not sound pissed at Wojo during his speech

https://youtu.be/Mjlo4Xiq3qo

Good for those 3. Class acts who deserve all the success they have coming their way. Hopefully they can finish out their senior season strong. They have a fan in me no matter what happens over the next 4-11 games.

Go MU.

[BM1090]

They had speeches coming up. Didn't really need to sub for applause.

[dad's couch]

After the epic collapse last year, losing the Hausers (red flag), and getting drilled in 4 of our last 5 games, and no NCAA wins in previous 5 seasons - fans should be thrilled?  All while having Markus here too?

What's the red flag? No one else left. Symir reclassified. Dexter still came to red shirt. Jayce came in as a grad transfer. Wojo got an extension Got a pretty dam good class that is far from being over. The only red flag I see is the saintly Houser brother had a problem with the program and they left

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

On the list of legit complaints, this is about number 1,755,476th.

Some of you guys will complain about anything.

[BallBoy]

Buzz took a job in a more powerful conference because he didn't think the new Big East would pan out. And then he turned that "lesser" school into a team that was very competitive and was as good or better than is during his time there.

You also need to realize that a few fans booing or saying mean things on the internet don't matter in real decisions. The fans might hurt a few peoples feelings here and there, but they don't move the needle at all.

So again, if a handful of teenagers affect Wojos career decisions, that's a much bigger indictment of him than the fans.

So you are saying Buzz was impacted by the fear of a handful of teenagers so he left. He was literally quoted as saying he was leaving the big East because he didn’t think he would be as good and didn’t want the fans turning on him and getting fired.

[wadesworld]

So you are saying Buzz was impacted by the fear of a handful of teenagers so he left. He was literally quoted as saying he was leaving the big East because he didn’t think he would be as good and didn’t want the fans turning on him and getting fired.

He left because he was no longer allowed to overlook certain issues his players and recruits were running into. The administration was no longer bending over backwards to turn a blind eye to things.

[BallBoy]

He left because he was no longer allowed to overlook certain issues his players and recruits were running into. The administration was no longer bending over backwards to turn a blind eye to things.

May have been a part of it but he was quoted as saying he ran the numbers in his head and he didn’t think the next six years were going to be as good as the previous so he didn’t want to get fired. If you recall McKay was part of his second last recruiting class as a juco.

He also had a series of guys coming in that were good so it wasn’t like it was impacting his recruiting.

What does it say if the off the court things were the reason he left.

[Gato78]

1. Buzz left because he had pissed off damn near everyone at the Al and almost no one would talk to him. That is the entire story. When he started using university resources to obtain other coaches’ contracts using FOIA requests, thinks broke bad—real bad.
2. Elonmusk is proof that our fans can be some complete jerks. We have seen that with Wojo booing and, apparently, the jerks who had to be escorted out of Section 118. Not a great day for our university.

[Shooter McGavin]

Markus wanted to play till the buzzer sounded. I think thats why he stayed in. Loved watching him play, its a real shame the team couldnt hit open shots today. SHU was lights out, but it was tough to be at a game with a packed crowd and see so many bricked shots.

Agreed, was at the game and I’m sure he wanted to fight til the end.  I usually try to be level headed when I post but this is one of the more moronic threads to date this year.  People literally will find anything to bitch about. 

[Jables1604]

I should add a sub for Sacar too. This is almost a ritual at senior night - to sub out seniors for one last ovation.

They’ll get their ovations when we host an NIT game.

(PS. Not sure how to access the teal feature).

[🏀]

1. Buzz left because he had pissed off damn near everyone at the Al and almost no one would talk to him. That is the entire story. When he started using university resources to obtain other coaches’ contracts using FOIA requests, thinks broke bad—real bad.
2. Elonmusk is proof that our fans can be some complete jerks. We have seen that with Wojo booing and, apparently, the jerks who had to be escorted out of Section 118. Not a great day for our university.

Great post. What happened in 118?

[Newsdreams]

Great post. What happened in 118?

Some pretty boys like many here were berating Howard's parents, shouting crap at them. When TV did a closeup of them Howard's mother looked really uncomfortable. Must have been great for the recruits and families all sitting by them. Yes this fan base is $hit.

[JWags85]

Some pretty boys like many here were berating Howard's parents, shouting crap at them. When TV did a closeup of them Howard's mother looked really uncomfortable. Must have been great for the recruits and families all sitting by them. Yes this fan base is $hit.

Get a grip. Those could have been anyone. Badger fans, casual fans who bandwagon when they win but don’t actually follow MU basketball, unaffiliated douchebags.... this fan base has great fans and bad apples...like any major program.

Expectations are strained cause the previous coach took the program to 3 straight S16s and that is still fresh in the mind as attainable, especially when you have a far more accomplished player in Markus than literally anyone Buzz coached, except for maybe Crowder.

Nobody is excusing what those POS’ yelled, but don’t link them and the natives getting restless. Expecting more from a coach who let us again get embarrassed on national TV is not the same as being a scumbag

[wadesworld]

Get a grip. Those could have been anyone. Badger fans, casual fans who bandwagon when they win but don’t actually follow MU basketball, unaffiliated douchebags.... this fan base has great fans and bad apples...like any major program.

Expectations are strained cause the previous coach took the program to 3 straight S16s and that is still fresh in the mind as attainable, especially when you have a far more accomplished player in Markus than literally anyone Buzz coached, except for maybe Crowder.

Nobody is excusing what those POS’ yelled, but don’t link them and the natives getting restless. Expecting more from a coach who let us again get embarrassed on national TV is not the same as being a scumbag

There have been multiple posters trying to excuse what those POS’ yelled.

[Newsdreams]

Get a grip. Those could have been anyone. Badger fans, casual fans who bandwagon when they win but don’t actually follow MU basketball, unaffiliated douchebags.... this fan base has great fans and bad apples...like any major program.

Expectations are strained cause the previous coach took the program to 3 straight S16s and that is still fresh in the mind as attainable, especially when you have a far more accomplished player in Markus than literally anyone Buzz coached, except for maybe Crowder.

Nobody is excusing what those POS’ yelled, but don’t link them and the natives getting restless. Expecting more from a coach who let us again get embarrassed on national TV is not the same as being a scumbag

Would doubt they're not our fans in those seats. No I won't get a grip about all the insults to Markus and now to his parents in a game. What is happening here and at the game with Markus is obvious to me. It is a reflection of something bigger, but keep the silly excuses....

[Elonsmusk]

Some pretty boys like many here were berating Howard's parents, shouting crap at them. When TV did a closeup of them Howard's mother looked really uncomfortable. Must have been great for the recruits and families all sitting by them. Yes this fan base is $hit.

How any LEGITIMATE MU fan would take issue with the Howard family is beyond belief.  I cannot wrap my head around an MU fan "berating" Howard's parents?  Were you in the section and able to hear what was said?

Would seem more plausible that it was some closet UW fans.

[JWags85]

Would doubt they're not our fans in those seats. No I won't get a grip about all the insults to Markus and now to his parents in a game. What is happening here and at the game with Markus is obvious to me. It is a reflection of something bigger, but keep the silly excuses....

“Happening here”. So everything should be hunky dory cause we’re gonna make the tourney? Cause it feels a lot like you’re with us (fully in on Wojo and the team) or you’re against us (everyone else, including these heckling morons)

[Earl Tatum]

Whether you like Markus or not, there will never be another scorer like him at Marquette. He won many a game for us. To bad the cast around him didn't give him consistent help. Especially on his off nights. To many "one 'n dones" in college BB.

[Newsdreams]

How any LEGITIMATE MU fan would take issue with the Howard family is beyond belief.  I cannot wrap my head around an MU fan "berating" Howard's parents?  Were you in the section and able to hear what was said?

Would seem more plausible that it was some closet UW fans.

Plenty of Underboard at game and police removed them. Plus recruits and families sitting by Markus parents does not help. In a game like this I doubt there would be UW fans in those seats.

[🏀]

Plenty of Underboard at game and police removed them. Plus recruits and families sitting by Markus parents does not help. In a game like this I doubt there would be UW fans in those seats.

These people are pathetic. Must be all the meat.

[Elonsmusk]

Plenty of Underboard at game and police removed them. Plus recruits and families sitting by Markus parents does not help. In a game like this I doubt there would be UW fans in those seats.

That is awful.  Seems incomprehensible to me how any true MU fans could do that.  It certainly wouldn't seem UW fans would be sitting in good seats, but I'd put nothing past their sleazy fan base/program to plant a few trolls on a day we have 5-star recruits on hand.

[#UnleashSean]

Weren't people attacking him for being human scum for being too active and fighting to the end even though we were going to lose, just 2 games ago?

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