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jesmu84

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Move Koby off ball
« on: February 26, 2020, 08:34:49 PM »
Please stop with Koby at PG.

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Re: #freeSy
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2020, 08:37:24 PM »
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Re: #freeSy
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2020, 08:38:04 PM »
Agreed.  At this point Koby is not confident at all on offense.

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2020, 08:38:34 PM »
Don't particularly need Sy at PG, I suppose.

Just get Koby off the ball. Make him like Sacar (drive/kick) or Cain/Bailey (corner 3 guys)

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Re: #freeSy
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2020, 08:39:24 PM »
I like your thinking, but Sy had a horrible live-play TO. Needs to learn to bounce pass sometimes.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2020, 08:39:57 PM »
Sy is just so bad defensively. If he can make some leaps this offseason he should get major minutes.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2020, 09:15:49 PM »
The ball stops in his hands so much. It's actually incredible

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2020, 09:24:14 PM »
I kind of like what Sacar does initiating the offense the few times both Markus and Koby have been in foul trouble together this year.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2020, 09:29:30 PM »
Koby is having a really bad night. Bound to happen since everyone else is playing so well.  He seems to lack confidence at this point.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2020, 09:34:13 PM »
I kind of like what Sacar does initiating the offense the few times both Markus and Koby have been in foul trouble together this year.

Agreed.  Sacar get the inbounds on the press break is much better than Kobe.  He seems to make better decisions than Kobe.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2020, 09:42:54 PM »
Koby waits too long to pass on the press, need some serious work. However it's a much needed victory.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2020, 09:48:53 PM »
Our press break was atrocious tonight. I’d expect to see a lot of press from the Hall Saturday.
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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2020, 09:52:39 PM »
Our press break was atrocious tonight. I’d expect to see a lot of press from the Hall Saturday.

Actually, a lot of easy shots out of the press break today.  I've mentioned this before, because it's a slow developing break (very deliberate), but Marquette has been VERY successful breaking the press.  All year.

I'd argue, dumb for a short bench team to use the press full court...
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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2020, 10:04:39 PM »
Koby has been a major disappointment, especially after a good game or three earlier.
He needs pine time. The question is, then what? Markus at point (making his scoring job harder?), Greg?, Samir? All the alternatives have downsides but none seem to be as bad as watching Koby lately. Perhaps he could reverse the trend, but time is short.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2020, 10:21:09 PM »
Wojo finally got Koby off the ball. He simply could not anticipate the trap and continuously got hung up in it.
painful to watch him against the press

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2020, 10:29:14 PM »
He really has regressed, not much of a shooter, not much a passer, not quick enough. Do not fault any kid from going from a mid- major to a high major program, he just is not a point guard.  Better than Chartonney but not much better, need to find help for next year.

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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2020, 10:59:42 PM »
Koby has been a very good defender and rebounder this season, but... he is my least favorite player on the offensive end since Derrick.

I don't like it when the ball is in his hands. I don't like it when he shoots. I don't like it when he drives to the hoop.

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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2020, 11:03:20 PM »
Please stop with Koby at PG.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2020, 11:06:05 PM »
Koby is having a really bad night. Bound to happen since everyone else is playing so well.  He seems to lack confidence at this point.
When he has he had a good one minus pu n xu?  2 good short bursts 20 n 10 mins, the rest if the season trainwreck
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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2020, 11:18:39 PM »
Koby was god awful tonight. And tonight is not an anomaly. 

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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2020, 11:18:57 PM »
When he has he had a good one minus pu n xu?  2 good short bursts 20 n 10 mins, the rest if the season trainwreck

Was good in both Butler games and at UW as well. Other than that it's been pretty rough.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2020, 12:00:15 AM »
Koby is better than he's shown and he usually makes up for his offensive mistakes with his defense and rebounding. Not tonight.

He's one of those players that plays better when he's not thinking. Not sure he is a match for Wojo's offensive system but the talent is there. He seems to let things get under his skin and it throws off his whole game. For example, one of his turnovers was a missed shove by the refs. Defender clearly put two hands on him and pushed, automatic foul but refs just didn't see it. Those things happen and players need to let them go, not sure Koby is wired that way. Wojo needs to find a way to get Koby to channel that during the offseason.
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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2020, 06:21:07 AM »
Wojo finally got Koby off the ball. He simply could not anticipate the trap and continuously got hung up in it.
painful to watch him against the press

That really was hard to understand. His handle was extremely loose last night too. The other guys, particularly Sacar and Markus did a good job of getting rid of it before the trap most of the time aside from when we inbounded it into the corners along the baseline, which was also hard to understand because it is so easy to trap there. Would like to see us make entry pass sometimes a little further up court to relieve pressure and utilize Bailey’s height and smarts with the ball against the press like we did with Sam. We did it at times and he has a good knack for looking up court and moving the ball quickly.

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Re: Move Koby off ball
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2020, 06:26:36 AM »
Koby is better than he's shown and he usually makes up for his offensive mistakes with his defense and rebounding. Not tonight.

He's one of those players that plays better when he's not thinking. Not sure he is a match for Wojo's offensive system but the talent is there. He seems to let things get under his skin and it throws off his whole game. For example, one of his turnovers was a missed shove by the refs. Defender clearly put two hands on him and pushed, automatic foul but refs just didn't see it. Those things happen and players need to let them go, not sure Koby is wired that way. Wojo needs to find a way to get Koby to channel that during the offseason.

He’s definitely wired very tight. He had a strange gesture last night after getting pressured and trapped at half court where he clenched up both arms towards either Markus for not coming up more to help when he was trapped or the bench. That is a bad feeling being trapped repeatedly and feeling left on an island but avoiding the trap in the first place is the key.

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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2020, 08:21:03 AM »
He really has regressed, not much of a shooter, not much a passer, not quick enough. Do not fault any kid from going from a mid- major to a high major program, he just is not a point guard.  Better than Chartonney but not much better, need to find help for next year.

He's a different level better than Chartouney, but I agree he has not been good.  Koby's got talent, size and enough athleticism, it is very frustrating to watch him struggle like this.  I really think there is an excellent player in there somewhere.  Good Koby vs bad Koby may very well be the difference for us finishing strong or not.  Symir has promise, but I don't think that 25 minutes of him at this point is a recipe for success.
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