Dwyane Wade

[Billy Hoyle]

I did not see the interview...obviously this post gets away from basketball and into Faith, Social and Moral (notice I didnt say Political) values. Thats ok, an important topic. I don't doubt DWade is a thoughtful and loving father. But I think you can still love and accept your children and see transgenderism as a dysfunctional path that needs the love and acceptance of a parent to help steer them clear of. We should always love our children...what does love look like in situations like this? Can you envision a life choice by your children that you would help them avoid? Is everything ok?....is everything relative?  I am a Christian and see transgenderism as dysfunctional.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I did not see the interview...obviously this post gets away from basketball and into Faith, Social and Moral (notice I didnt say Political) values. Thats ok, an important topic. I don't doubt DWade is a thoughtful and loving father. But I think you can still love and accept your children and see transgenderism as a dysfunctional path that needs the love and acceptance of a parent to help steer them clear of. We should always love our children...what does love look like in situations like this? Can you envision a life choice by your children that you would help them avoid? Is everything ok?....is everything relative?  I am a Christian and see transgenderism as dysfunctional.

As a Christian, which teachings of Christ led you to this conclusion?

[lawdog77]

In before the lock.

[Galway Eagle]

I did not see the interview...obviously this post gets away from basketball and into Faith, Social and Moral (notice I didnt say Political) values. Thats ok, an important topic. I don't doubt DWade is a thoughtful and loving father. But I think you can still love and accept your children and see transgenderism as a dysfunctional path that needs the love and acceptance of a parent to help steer them clear of. We should always love our children...what does love look like in situations like this? Can you envision a life choice by your children that you would help them avoid? Is everything ok?....is everything relative?  I am a Christian and see transgenderism as dysfunctional.

Oh god. Between Jockeys post on corona, this, and 83's on "socialists" people are in full force looking to instigate arguments recently

[MUBigDance]

In before the lock.

Agree with Lock...sure. But the topic was posted so I commented. Don't want an off-basketball argument.

[tower912]

In answer to your question, however, there ARE moral choices and lessons I have tried educate my children about.   I suspect, however, they are not the same as the ones you worry about.   

[MUBigDance]

In answer to your question, however, there ARE moral choices and lessons I have tried educate my children about.   I suspect, however, they are not the same as the ones you worry about.

No, I think a lot of them are the same....also worry isn't the right word here, right?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

As a Christian, which teachings of Christ led you to this conclusion?

I'm curious about this as well. There are several transgendered people in the bible who were revered, that in addition to Jesus' central message of love and acceptance for all people.

[We R Final Four]

I'm curious about this as well. There are several transgendered people in the bible who were revered, that in addition to Jesus' central message of love and acceptance for all people.

This.

[MUBigDance]

I'm curious about this as well. There are several transgendered people in the bible who were revered, that in addition to Jesus' central message of love and acceptance for all people.

There are not several transgendered people in the Bible. And Jesus' central purpose was to seek and save the lost thru faith in Him and his resurrection. This was certainly for all people but also certainly there were many behaviors that he did not accept.
Respectfully I think there are some misconceptions of what the Bible says and Jesus' purposes describe d there.

Like we all know, this conversation in the context of Scoop can only devolve. I'm not going to answer any more here....no matter how tempting the troll   

Hope that makes sense.

PS. feel free to send a note thru scoop message if you want to dialogue. I'm only once a week or so...so might not respond soon.

[Johnny B]

Throw this in before the lock. We do not get our morality from the bible clearly. We get it elsewhere. There is nothing in the bible about freaking trans people. Let's stop pretending the bible has all the answers. The bible supports slavery ffs

[Hards Alumni]

There are not several transgendered people in the Bible. And Jesus' central purpose was to seek and save the lost thru faith in Him and his resurrection. This was certainly for all people but also certainly there were many behaviors that he did not accept.
Respectfully I think there are some misconceptions of what the Bible says and Jesus' purposes describe d there.

Like we all know, this conversation in the context of Scoop can only devolve. I'm not going to answer any more here....no matter how tempting the troll   

Hope that makes sense.

PS. feel free to send a note thru scoop message if you want to dialogue. I'm only once a week or so...so might not respond soon.

Allow me to rephrase this for you.

"I have no argument, nor can I point to anything in the bible as requested, I just find it icky."

[MU82]

Not sure what the bible says specifically about transgender people, but it unquestionably says in several passages that adulterers should be put to death.

[HutchwasClutch]

Not sure what the bible says specifically about transgender people, but it unquestionably says in several passages that adulterers should be put to death.

Jesus unquestionably put down the angry mob who wanted to stone to death the woman caught in the act of adultry.  And put them down with one of His most profound responses that simply disarmed the mob completely.

[HutchwasClutch]

There are several transgendered people in the bible who were revered,

In what bible is that?!?  Seriously

[keefe]

There are several transgendered people in the bible who were revered

Fact Check: Bull Sh1t

[Johnny B]

I'm curious about this as well. There are several transgendered people in the bible who were revered, that in addition to Jesus' central message of love and acceptance for all people.

At least you're rational when it comes to college basketball

[HutchwasClutch]

There is nothing in the bible about freaking trans people. The bible supports slavery ffs

You're absolutely correct in the first statement.  To claim otherwise is quackery.

Too bad you swung and missed so badly in your other statement. God's teaching and works is about freeing people from the bonds of slavery. 

[Johnny B]

You're absolutely correct in the first statement.  To claim otherwise is quackery.

Too bad you swung and missed so badly in your other statement. God's teaching and works is about freeing people from the bonds of slavery.

I have absolutely nothing wrong with religious people that follow the "jesus is love" sorta of thing. I'm sorry to say the bible does support slavery and I can give you the verses If you want but its east to look up

[Johnny B]

Can we have a religion thread in the super bar?? Is that even allowed. So many interesting perspectives I'd love to hear

[HutchwasClutch]

I have absolutely nothing wrong with religious people that follow the "jesus is love" sorta of thing. I'm sorry to say the bible does support slavery and I can give you the verses If you want but its east to look up

Tell me chapter and verse it being God's word, teaching...

[Johnny B]

Tell me chapter and verse it being God's word, teaching...

Epehsians 6:5.  And other passages on beating slaves.. come on man

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

In what bible is that?!?  Seriously

Fact Check: Bull Sh1t

I apologize, it is probably incorrect of me to say there are several transgendered people in the Bible. We can't know that for sure. The more correct phrasing would be that there are several men in the bible who are repeatedly described with effeminate qualities, who are described doing things that were reversed only for women in that day and age, and in a few cases were described as wearing clothing only worn by women in that time.

[Johnny B]

I apologize, it is probably incorrect of me to say there are several transgendered people in the Bible. We can't know that for sure. The more correct phrasing would be that there are several men in the bible who are repeatedly described with effeminate qualities, who are described doing things that were reversed only for women in that day and age, and in a few cases were described as wearing clothing only worn by women in that time.

The " more correct phrasing"  is this all Non sense. The Male wears this and girls wear that is a complete human construct. The bible supports slavery. Says gays should be put to death. Says eating shell fish or mixing fabrics are worthy of death. Kill woman who aren't virgins on their wedding night. Kill people working on sundays. Submission of woman. THIS IS NONSENSE. The bible is full of irrational non sense. You cherry pick the bible like crazy. You follow some parts and ignore others. This is ridiculous nonsense. Believe what you want but this idioitc. Go ahead and ban. I have seen my own cousin be disowned and kicked out of the house at age 14 because of religious hateful idiots. Ban me idc

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

There are not several transgendered people in the Bible. And Jesus' central purpose was to seek and save the lost thru faith in Him and his resurrection. This was certainly for all people but also certainly there were many behaviors that he did not accept.
Respectfully I think there are some misconceptions of what the Bible says and Jesus' purposes describe d there.

Like we all know, this conversation in the context of Scoop can only devolve. I'm not going to answer any more here....no matter how tempting the troll   

Hope that makes sense.

PS. feel free to send a note thru scoop message if you want to dialogue. I'm only once a week or so...so might not respond soon.

I'm honestly not attempting to troll. You connected being Christian with seeing transgender as being a "dysfunctional path." I was curious where that came from as I personally don't know of any scripture that says that being transgender was a "behavior that Jesus did not accept."

I think gender identity and sexual orientation are often unfairly lumped together. While I don't agree, I at least "get" why some Christians believe homosexuality is against their faith. There is scripture you can point to. Personally, I think that scripture is often taken out of context and is later clarified by Jesus' message of love, but that's a whole other discussion. I don't think there is any scripture that labels being transgender as a sin, I certainly could be wrong though.