Some additional positive press for the Big East

[Uncle Rico]

Good stats, Pak. Thanks.

Men's soccer - which has some big, popular programs - has big-time transfer numbers.

It's amazing all those programs haven't had to be shut down because, well, you know.

SMU landed 16 transfers last year in football and made the Top 25.  Many came from power conferences. 

https://247sports.com/college/smu/LongFormArticle/Shane-Buechele-Richard-McBryde-Thomas-Shelmire-Kedrick-James-Chevin-Calloway-CamRon-Jones-SMU-Mustangs-college-football-transfers-new-players-134499064/

[Pakuni]

SMU landed 16 transfers last year in football and made the Top 25.  Many came from power conferences. 

https://247sports.com/college/smu/LongFormArticle/Shane-Buechele-Richard-McBryde-Thomas-Shelmire-Kedrick-James-Chevin-Calloway-CamRon-Jones-SMU-Mustangs-college-football-transfers-new-players-134499064/

Yep. Rather than destroying non-major programs, transfers benefit them.

[Cheeks]

SMU landed 16 transfers last year in football and made the Top 25.  Many came from power conferences. 

https://247sports.com/college/smu/LongFormArticle/Shane-Buechele-Richard-McBryde-Thomas-Shelmire-Kedrick-James-Chevin-Calloway-CamRon-Jones-SMU-Mustangs-college-football-transfers-new-players-134499064/

UCLA has had massive transfers in the last three years that has hurt their ability.  75+ transfers through last year alone. 

We can play this game all day...it isn't a zero sum game. Happy to provide other examples and have on the basketball side where mid-majors have lost 3 or 4 kids in one year and decimated a program.

[MU82]

Yep. Rather than destroying non-major programs, transfers benefit them.

Additional freedom of movement, as enjoyed by athletes in all but 5 sports as well as the rest of every school's students, will be an even bigger benefit.

[Uncle Rico]

Additional freedom of movement, as enjoyed by athletes in all but 5 sports as well as the rest of every school's students, will be an even bigger benefit.

Completely agree.  Schools that have problems losing players will have to look long and hard about why.  We can play this game all day but at the end of the day, you'll have to figure out why. 

[lawdog77]

UCLA has had massive transfers in the last three years that has hurt their ability.  75+ transfers through last year alone. 

We can play this game all day...it isn't a zero sum game. Happy to provide other examples and have on the basketball side where mid-majors have lost 3 or 4 kids in one year and decimated a program.

How many sports did UCLA have to shut down because of this?

[Cheeks]

Poaching Problem: Mid-major college basketball teams fight 'slimy' recruiting from bigger schools.  This is before free agency....just imagine

https://www.standard.net/sports/poaching-problem-mid-major-college-basketball-teams-fight-slimy-recruiting/article_75743b06-dd99-596f-a298-4551f0d2b6ea.html

[Cheeks]

Star Transfers hurting mid-majors

https://sports.yahoo.com/harsh-reality-hitting-mid-major-schools-star-players-show-ncaa-tourney-001926275.html

[Uncle Rico]

Poaching Problem: Mid-major college basketball teams fight 'slimy' recruiting from bigger schools.  This is before free agency....just imagine

https://www.standard.net/sports/poaching-problem-mid-major-college-basketball-teams-fight-slimy-recruiting/article_75743b06-dd99-596f-a298-4551f0d2b6ea.html

I don't believe the media

[Uncle Rico]

6 Mid-Majors have made the Final 4 since 2010.  Take a gander at how many made the Final 4 before 2010

[Pakuni]

Star Transfers hurting mid-majors

https://sports.yahoo.com/harsh-reality-hitting-mid-major-schools-star-players-show-ncaa-tourney-001926275.html

Which of these programs moved down a level or quit altogether?

[Cheeks]

Completely agree.  Schools that have problems losing players will have to look long and hard about why.  We can play this game all day but at the end of the day, you'll have to figure out why.

Weather, girls, uniforms, not paying under the table, not coddling to 18 year olds, etc etc.   All kinds of reasons, real and superficial why kids leave.

I predict the 800 or so transfers that happen now will explode even further to 1400 or more.  The age of not getting your way and rewarding tantrums....going to be awesome.

[Cheeks]

I don't believe the media

Journalists are never wrong

[Cheeks]

6 Mid-Majors have made the Final 4 since 2010.  Take a gander at how many made the Final 4 before 2010

Crapshoot

You realize when MU made it in 2003 we were labeled as a mid major by some publications.  Define midmajor.

Free agency will change the future fundamentally for mid majors.

[Cheeks]

Which of these programs moved down a level or quit altogether?

Has free agency started yet?  That's what I thought. 

[Lennys Tap]

Weather, girls, uniforms, not paying under the table, not coddling to 18 year olds, etc etc.   All kinds of reasons, real and superficial why kids leave.

I predict the 800 or so transfers that happen now will explode even further to 1400 or more.  The age of not getting your way and rewarding tantrums....going to be awesome.

Like the song said - "It's the end of the world as we know it.........and I feel fine!"

[The Sultan]

FFS Cheeks, in how many topics are you going to debate this?  Everyone knows your point of view.  Just because people disagree with it, doesn't mean you have to respond every...f*cking...time...

[Uncle Rico]

Crapshoot

You realize when MU made it in 2003 we were labeled as a mid major by some publications.  Define midmajor.

Free agency will change the future fundamentally for mid majors.

And low-majors and power conferences.  What won't change?  The number of division 1 schools or number of lower level schools trying to get to that level.

The system is STACKED against them today, was yesterday and will be tomorrow.  And they ain't gonna stop trying because the student athletes have the ability to transfer once without sitting out.

[Ardmore Mug]

Its getting sickening, this idiot posting and taking over every thread  !! !   I have him on IGNORE and I still see his posts when he gets "quoted" everywhere.... Very frustrating ! ! !     Makes this site suck....  Im sorry just my little opinion ! ! ! 

[Pakuni]

Has free agency started yet?  That's what I thought.

Can we talk about all the mid-majors that have benefited as a result of transfers?
Like the Loyola team that made the Final Four with a transfer leading the way?
Or the San Diego State team  currently ranked in the top 5, with two of its three leading scorers being transfers from P6 schools?
Or the Nevada team that made the Sweet 16 in 2018 thanks to four transfers from P6 programs?

And since you mention Marquette in 2003, didn't that team benefit greatly as a result of a transfer from a bigger conference?

[Uncle Rico]

Can we talk about all the mid-majors that have benefited as a result of transfers?
Like the Loyola team that made the Final Four with a transfer leading the way?
Or the San Diego State team  currently ranked in the top 5, with two of its three leading scorers being transfers from P6 schools?
Or the Nevada team that made the Sweet 16 in 2018 thanks to four transfers from P6 programs?

And since you mention Marquette in 2003, didn't that team benefit greatly as a result of a transfer from a bigger conference?

Dontcha know?  Kids won't transfer down ever anymore.  Especially with it being easier for them to go somewhere and get more playing time.  It's ludicrous to think that will happen anymore

[tower912]

Traci Carter, Haanif Cheatham, Odartey, Amo, Karon, Deonte, Dawson, the list goes on.   Transfers go both ways.

[Cheeks]

Its getting sickening, this idiot posting and taking over every thread  !! !   I have him on IGNORE and I still see his posts when he gets "quoted" everywhere.... Very frustrating ! ! !     Makes this site suck....  Im sorry just my little opinion ! ! ! 

Every thread....good lord can you be more dramatic.  I'm just answering the posts that are here.  Nothing more

[Cheeks]

And low-majors and power conferences.  What won't change?  The number of division 1 schools or number of lower level schools trying to get to that level.

The system is STACKED against them today, was yesterday and will be tomorrow.  And they ain't gonna stop trying because the student athletes have the ability to transfer once without sitting out.

Yes....and it only gets worse which is what I am saying.  Stacked becomes more stacked.  Further consolidation of power, wealth and control

[Uncle Rico]

Yes....and it only gets worse which is what I am saying.  Stacked becomes more stacked.  Further consolidation of power, wealth and control

The rich get richer every year.  The gap gets bigger every year regardless of doing what is best for the student athlete.