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Author Topic: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall  (Read 1173 times)

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Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« on: February 08, 2020, 02:08:57 PM »
Not a dry eye in the house.   My wife, the Hoosier fan, openly crying.

Very frail.

« Last Edit: February 08, 2020, 02:11:19 PM by tower912 »
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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2020, 02:14:27 PM »
Some people are getting choked up.

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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2020, 02:31:33 PM »
Some people are getting choked up.

I get it
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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2020, 02:43:40 PM »
If Bob Knight's in poor health, he should just learn to relax and enjoy it.

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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2020, 04:07:45 PM »
If Bob Knight's in poor health, he should just learn to relax and enjoy it.

He is.  He’s been campaigning for his causes, seeing old friends, taking a victory lap.  He scared the hell out of me the one year I was in the athletic department there, he scared most there.  He was a brilliant basketball coach.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2020, 04:14:23 PM »
If Bob Knight's in poor health, he should just learn to relax and enjoy it.

I get this one, too
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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2020, 05:50:34 PM »
https://www.crimsonquarry.com/2020/2/8/21129377/a-warm-blanket-bob-knight-return-to-bloomington


Reminds me of Gayle King talking about Kobe Bryant with Lisa Leslie this week about sexual assault and then people going batshat crazy to attack her online for doing so.....interesting videos by SnoopDog and others claiming they will get her for bringing it up....
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2020, 05:57:34 PM »

Reminds me of Gayle King talking about Kobe Bryant with Lisa Leslie this week about sexual assault and then people going batshat crazy to attack her online for doing so.....interesting videos by SnoopDog and others claiming they will get her for bringing it up....

Reminds me of Bobby Knight holding a grudge for 20 years because he got fired for putting his hands on a student.  Nice to see the decrepit old man on the court today.  A reminder no man is bigger than an institution
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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2020, 07:04:22 PM »
So inspired, Indiana lost an important home game to a Purdue team that couldn't buy a road win.

Fire Bobby again!

Fire Archie!

Good result for our Warriors.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2020, 07:11:24 PM »
So inspired, Indiana lost an important home game to a Purdue team that couldn't buy a road win.

Fire Bobby again!

Fire Archie!

Good result for our Warriors.

Great to see Gene Keady there, a true gentleman
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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2020, 08:52:17 PM »
I'm happy to see an effort at reconciliation there.

Bob Knight made Hoosier Basketball. That 1976 team was painful to watch against us -- because they were SOOOOOOOOOOO good. He recruited, disciplined and won. In the end, that's what you want.

Coach Knight never physically hurt anyone and he was just as belligerent as Al was at times. The difference was Al did it in practice and, with one exception after a Kansas State tournament game, he didn't do it with recorders rolling or cameras on. Al also had a smug, sarcastic approach to how he did what he did.

Here's hoping Coach Knight is always revered at Indiana the way Al is here.


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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2020, 09:14:25 PM »
I'm happy to see an effort at reconciliation there.

Bob Knight made Hoosier Basketball. That 1976 team was painful to watch against us -- because they were SOOOOOOOOOOO good. He recruited, disciplined and won. In the end, that's what you want.

Coach Knight never physically hurt anyone and he was just as belligerent as Al was at times. The difference was Al did it in practice and, with one exception after a Kansas State tournament game, he didn't do it with recorders rolling or cameras on. Al also had a smug, sarcastic approach to how he did what he did.

Here's hoping Coach Knight is always revered at Indiana the way Al is here.




Knight literally choked someone. Al was a much better and gracious man. Not even comparable.
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2020, 09:15:09 PM »

Reminds me of Gayle King talking about Kobe Bryant with Lisa Leslie this week about sexual assault and then people going batshat crazy to attack her online for doing so.....interesting videos by SnoopDog and others claiming they will get her for bringing it up....

God you are the worst. Just stick to the topic for once without bringing up politics.
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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2020, 09:23:41 PM »
God you are the worst. Just stick to the topic for once without bringing up politics.

Some people are okay with “just win, baby”
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2020, 10:38:53 PM »
I'm happy to see an effort at reconciliation there.

Bob Knight made Hoosier Basketball. That 1976 team was painful to watch against us -- because they were SOOOOOOOOOOO good. He recruited, disciplined and won. In the end, that's what you want.

Coach Knight never physically hurt anyone and he was just as belligerent as Al was at times. The difference was Al did it in practice and, with one exception after a Kansas State tournament game, he didn't do it with recorders rolling or cameras on. Al also had a smug, sarcastic approach to how he did what he did.

Here's hoping Coach Knight is always revered at Indiana the way Al is here.

You do know that Bobby literally choked somebody, and then he tried to cover it up, and then he lied about it, and then the school tried to justify it, right?

He only got fired after he roughed up another student, one who wasn't even on the basketball team.

He was a bully and a boor, and as soon as college basketball changed some - as soon as recruits realized, "There are a lot of good programs out there where the head coaches don't physically and mentally abuse their athletes" - Bobby's recruiting dried up and he became just another good X-and-O guy who didn't have the talent to win.

In his last 6 years at Indiana, this all-time coaching god, working at the bluest of bluebloods, had such piss-poor talent that he could only win a total of 2 NCAA tournament games.
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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2020, 07:27:56 AM »
He only got fired after he roughed up another student, one who wasn't even on the basketball team.

That student and his father’s account is highly disputed and not even close to verified.  Mike Davis denied it as vehemently as Coach Knight did.



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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2020, 07:32:58 AM »
Which is the source of Knight's estrangement.   He felt he was fired due to lies.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2020, 07:38:02 AM »
You do know that Bobby literally choked somebody, and then he tried to cover it up, and then he lied about it, and then the school tried to justify it, right?

He only got fired after he roughed up another student, one who wasn't even on the basketball team.

He was a bully and a boor, and as soon as college basketball changed some - as soon as recruits realized, "There are a lot of good programs out there where the head coaches don't physically and mentally abuse their athletes" - Bobby's recruiting dried up and he became just another good X-and-O guy who didn't have the talent to win.

In his last 6 years at Indiana, this all-time coaching god, working at the bluest of bluebloods, had such piss-poor talent that he could only win a total of 2 NCAA tournament games.

Yes many of his tactics were wrong. He was often a boor and a bully. No argument there. His behavior was many times indefensible.

But he ran squeaky clean programs, made sure his players were actual student athletes, and was loyal and good to friends and many former players.  He was a conflicted personality in many ways.

He was also a brilliant basketball mind.

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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2020, 08:12:10 AM »
Yes many of his tactics were wrong. He was often a boor and a bully. No argument there. His behavior was many times indefensible.

But he ran squeaky clean programs, made sure his players were actual student athletes, and was loyal and good to friends and many former players.  He was a conflicted personality in many ways.

He was also a brilliant basketball mind.

"Mussolini made the triains run on time."

The problem I have isn't the acknowledgement that he was a complicated man with both positives and negatives, but that talking heads, and people like dgies, lift up the positives with reverance while ignoring the negatives.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2020, 08:32:31 AM »
That student and his father’s account is highly disputed and not even close to verified.  Mike Davis denied it as vehemently as Coach Knight did.

Please. There actually are people who dispute him having throttled Neil Reed, even though it was caught on film for all to see.

Yes many of his tactics were wrong. He was often a boor and a bully. No argument there. His behavior was many times indefensible.

But he ran squeaky clean programs, made sure his players were actual student athletes, and was loyal and good to friends and many former players.  He was a conflicted personality in many ways.

He was also a brilliant basketball mind.

All true. Just don't physically and mentally abuse people and expect for everybody to get down on their knees and worship you.

Many will do such worshiping no matter what, because for many winning is all that matters, but many are repulsed by that behavior. Among the many repulsed were recruits and their parents, who ran to other programs over the last half-dozen years of his time at Indiana.
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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2020, 08:33:24 AM »
"Mussolini made the triains run on time."

The problem I have isn't the acknowledgement that he was a complicated man with both positives and negatives, but that talking heads, and people like dgies, lift up the positives with reverance while ignoring the negatives.

Obtuse as Chico’s can be, perhaps that’s his point about Kobe.

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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2020, 08:47:35 AM »
Look, Coach Knight won multiple Nattys for a university that never before had sniffed that level of success. I get that Coach Knight had some bad behavior along the way. Candidly, most coaches do. His was more physical and more overt.

Though, gang, I would note that legend has it that Coach Al and one of his players were engaged in a fist fight in the mid 1970s. Yet, we still celebrate Coach Al.

Look, nobody is saying Coach Knight is perfect. He’s far from it. If sainthood is a basis for honoring someone, we’ll honor nobody. Coach Knight should be rêvered not for the whole package but for the good he did.

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Re: Bob Knight returns to Assembly Hall
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2020, 09:15:04 AM »
Look, Coach Knight won multiple Nattys for a university that never before had sniffed that level of success.

Not accurate.  Branch McCracken won multiple national championships at Indiana.


Look, nobody is saying Coach Knight is perfect. He’s far from it. If sainthood is a basis for honoring someone, we’ll honor nobody. Coach Knight should be rêvered not for the whole package but for the good he did.

No one is saying you have to be a saint.  Your initial posts was completely innaccurate.  He did hurt someone physically.  He hurt many others emotionallly.  Again, I am all for acknowledging someone's positives, but don't whitewash his negatives like you did.
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