NCAA investigations cont.

[jesmu84]

Seems like forever.

Its been a bad look for everyone. The NCAA looks inept, KU looks like it embraces cheating and I know KU alums who are tired of the jokes because they know about and admit KU cheated. It reminds me of Arizona fans admitting no amount of wins are worth the cloud of allegations and the ultimate penalties. My KU booster friend has been ready to move on because he knows KU is way bigger than Self.

What penalties?

[The Sultan]

Seems like forever.

Its been a bad look for everyone. The NCAA looks inept, KU looks like it embraces cheating and I know KU alums who are tired of the jokes because they know about and admit KU cheated. It reminds me of Arizona fans admitting no amount of wins are worth the cloud of allegations and the ultimate penalties. My KU booster friend has been ready to move on because he knows KU is way bigger than Self.

My guess is that your friend will be celebrating next weekend though.

[JWags85]

Seems like forever.

Its been a bad look for everyone. The NCAA looks inept, KU looks like it embraces cheating and I know KU alums who are tired of the jokes because they know about and admit KU cheated. It reminds me of Arizona fans admitting no amount of wins are worth the cloud of allegations and the ultimate penalties. My KU booster friend has been ready to move on because he knows KU is way bigger than Self.

So you have a Zona friend who claimed Miller didn't win enough so he was fine with him leaving.  And now a KU fan who is ready to move on from the coach with the best winning percentage in school history cause of jokes? Like Fluffy said, I'm sure he has ZERO problem cheering this run.  He was probably just bitter it had been 3 seasons since a second weekend appearance

Or there is some light dishonesty masquerading as morality

[WhiteTrash]

So you have a Zona friend who claimed Miller didn't win enough so he was fine with him leaving.  And now a KU fan who is ready to move on from the coach with the best winning percentage in school history cause of jokes? Like Fluffy said, I'm sure he has ZERO problem cheering this run.  He was probably just bitter it had been 3 seasons since a second weekend appearance

Or there is some light dishonesty masquerading as morality

Not sure what you mean or why I'd have any reason to be dishonest. First, there has been national news stories about AZ and KU. I have never claimed to know more than has been reported. I have not started any rumors only gave my personal experiences with alum I know. Second, I live in the west so I have met, done business with and befriended many alumni for many schools including AZ and KU. We talk basketball because I enjoy it and they like or are interested in MU. My AZ friend is not a booster, my KU friend is a booster. They have never told me anything that is not already common knowledge. (I have a standing offer from my business partners who are major boosters to use 4 courtside seats at Rupp Arena yet I don't have any comments on UK)

If I have claimed anything that is faux morality, it is my fault to not be clear in simply giving other perspectives.

Finally, anyone one can claim anything they want on an internet fan board, so I would not take my posts or anyone's as gospel. I think it's great of you to have a healthy skepticism about anything I post. 

[JWags85]

Not sure what you mean or why I'd have any reason to be dishonest. First, there has been national news stories about AZ and KU. I have never claimed to know more than has been reported. I have not started any rumors only gave my personal experiences with alum I know. Second, I live in the west so I have met, done business with and befriended many alumni for many schools including AZ and KU. We talk basketball because I enjoy it and they like or are interested in MU. My AZ friend is not a booster, my KU friend is a booster. They have never told me anything that is not already common knowledge. (I have a standing offer from my business partners who are major boosters to use 4 courtside seats at Rupp Arena yet I don't have any comments on UK)

If I have claimed anything that is faux morality, it is my fault to not be clear in simply giving other perspectives.

Finally, anyone one can claim anything they want on an internet fan board, so I would not take my posts or anyone's as gospel. I think it's great of you to have a healthy skepticism about anything I post.

First off my apologies, you misinterpreted my post and reading back I can see how that may have occurred.  I wasn't meaning to imply you were being dishonest or making up such stories.  I just found it interesting that there was an alum who was over a disgraced fired coach in Miller but claimed it for on the court reasons and then a KU supporter, a booster no less, who thought ridicule was as too much superseded success and wins, though Self has been doing it for years and years.

Their stances seem a bit dishonest in favor of an outwardly moral/pious appearance.  That's all.  I know you're just the messenger

[Viper]

Kansas hoops is no doubt corruption-city. Arizona basketball needs to be put down too. Cheating goes back to Lute. Fan base is in denial. Walmart Wildcats.

[Uncle Rico]

Titles are forever

[Dr. Blackheart]

Titles are forever

Was going to upvote this but then I realized I misread the first word.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

When do Kansas's penalties come down?

Wichita State will get penalized for something instead.

[jesmu84]

My apologies if posted elsewhere, but saw today that LSU has now lost their entire roster plus every recruit from 22 and 23.

I think that's now the definition of bare cupboard

[PointWarrior]

Wichita State employed Greg Marshall and paid him $8M to go away, they deserve it...

Wichita State will get penalized for something instead.

[Newsdreams]

Summer 2030

St. Peter's will get the hammer

[jesmu84]

Cheaters never prosper?

Still waiting on all those punishments and sanctions some on this board said were coming. Summer of 2020, was it?

[MU82]

As Mark Grace (and others) said: "It you're not cheating, you're not trying."

[wadesworld]

Has a defending NCAA Tournament champion ever been ineligible for the next year's NCAA Tournament?

[Viper]

Has a defending NCAA Tournament champion ever been ineligible for the next year's NCAA Tournament?

I don't know the answer to that, but I sure hope the ncaa has penalties handed down by the start of next season. Bill Self is a special kind of terd.

[The Sultan]

I don't know the answer to that, but I sure hope the ncaa has penalties handed down by the start of next season. Bill Self is a special kind of terd.

Kansas shouldn't be penalized.  No one should be penalized for giving recruits money.  It should be completely within the rules to do so.

[lawdog77]

Kansas shouldn't be penalized.  No one should be penalized for giving recruits money.  It should be completely within the rules to do so.

Yes. And throw all of donors and the recruits who received money in jail for tax evasion

[mugrad_89]

Kansas shouldn't be penalized.  No one should be penalized for giving recruits money.  It should be completely within the rules to do so.

The five level 1 allegations Kansas is charged with beg to differ.

[jesmu84]

Kansas shouldn't be penalized.  No one should be penalized for giving recruits money.  It should be completely within the rules to do so.

Regardless of what "should be", they should face repercussions if they broke rules when the rules were in place.

[The Sultan]

Regardless of what "should be", they should face repercussions if they broke rules when the rules were in place.

I'm not a rules for the sake of rules guy.  Unjust rules should not be enforced.

[Viper]

I'm not a rules for the sake of rules guy.  Unjust rules should not be enforced.

honest coaches get fired every year losing to coaches who cheat....as correctly said a few years back by John Thompson. 

[Uncle Rico]

Titles are forever, the NCAA won't be

[The Sultan]

honest coaches get fired every year losing to coaches who cheat....as correctly said a few years back by John Thompson. 

They should have been better coaches then.

[Pakuni]

I'm not a rules for the sake of rules guy.  Unjust rules should not be enforced.

I'm fine with paying players, but college sports doesn't survive in any recognizable form without some rules governing compensation and how it's administered.