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WhoaJoe2020

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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #100 on: February 04, 2020, 04:09:15 PM »
Unnecessary.

Totally.....

Sam was a freakin warrior for Marquette and Joey was just an immature freshman.

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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #101 on: February 04, 2020, 04:35:24 PM »
Totally.....

Sam was a freakin warrior for Marquette and Joey was just an immature freshman.

Sam sucked defensively, who does he guard over the last 6 games without being a complete turnstile??
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« Reply #102 on: February 04, 2020, 05:14:30 PM »
Sam sucked defensively, who does he guard over the last 6 games without being a complete turnstile??

Sam was a good defender, individually and from a team perspective. Also rebounded well for his position.


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« Reply #103 on: February 04, 2020, 05:17:48 PM »
Ners is correct, Sam was a very sound defender. Struggled against ultra quick wings but always knew where to be and never lost his man.

Joey was not a good defender but was a freshman. Freshman often struggle on defense and improve as they age.
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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #104 on: February 04, 2020, 05:19:29 PM »
Sam sucked defensively, who does he guard over the last 6 games without being a complete turnstile??

The guy was battling on a hip that required surgery after the season was over.

And people wonder why.....

MU82

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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #105 on: February 04, 2020, 05:29:57 PM »
I would say UCLA.

I mentioned Lavin earlier in this thread. I don't think their situations were very similar, and UCLA still very much thought of itself as a blueblood.
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« Reply #106 on: February 04, 2020, 06:38:10 PM »
Sam sucked defensively, who does he guard over the last 6 games without being a complete turnstile??
This is hogwash. Sam did not suck defensively. There were several games last year where Sam had the assignment of the other teams offensive leader.
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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #107 on: February 04, 2020, 06:39:53 PM »
WhoaJoe

You are so right about Sam. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #108 on: February 04, 2020, 07:37:51 PM »
WhoaJoe

You are so right about Sam. Thanks for posting.

It won't work.

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« Reply #109 on: February 04, 2020, 09:56:31 PM »
WhoaJoe

You are so right about Sam. Thanks for posting.

Totally agree that WhoaJoe is doing great work here.

Hard to believe Scoop even existed before he showed up out of nowhere.

It's 10:55 eastern time, meaning he still has an hour and 5 minutes to post 841 more times today to tie the record he set yesterday. Fingers crossed that he can do it!
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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #110 on: February 05, 2020, 04:42:05 AM »
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I think it is important to acknowledge people that excel in their work and WhoaJoe is an example for all of us. He is a 24/7 Scooper, informed  on virtually every topic, witty, funny, edgy and he is not Chico’s. Actually, I feel badly for Jams because he created a monster and this is going to be tough to top down the road.

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« Reply #111 on: February 05, 2020, 05:51:45 AM »
Goose
 
He is the Markus Howard of Scoop.

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« Reply #112 on: February 05, 2020, 05:56:30 AM »
real 83

Aside from volume shooter, I think WhoaJoe is a more pure shooter than Markus. What did we do before his arrival?

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« Reply #113 on: February 05, 2020, 05:58:46 AM »
Stop that Goose.

The thought of that is too scary for me.

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« Reply #114 on: February 05, 2020, 07:06:45 AM »
Let's ask this a different way, because I think this is what is at the crux of this discussion for a vast majority. Hypothetically, if we were guaranteed this recruiting class would stay, and all the current players would stay, would you then be okay going with someone else??
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« Reply #115 on: February 05, 2020, 07:30:43 AM »
Let's ask this a different way, because I think this is what is at the crux of this discussion for a vast majority. Hypothetically, if we were guaranteed this recruiting class would stay, and all the current players would stay, would you then be okay going with someone else??
Well, if unicorns and Nessie had a love child that coached like a hybrid of Izzo, K, Boeheim, Wooden, and Al, then I would think about it.
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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #116 on: February 05, 2020, 07:48:38 AM »
Let's ask this a different way, because I think this is what is at the crux of this discussion for a vast majority. Hypothetically, if we were guaranteed this recruiting class would stay, and all the current players would stay, would you then be okay going with someone else??

Marquette isn't in a position to fire a coach coming off a tournament appearance without extenuating off the court circumstances. We're not at that level and never will be, and that's okay.

Even if Wojo hadn't gotten a good, and still possibly great, recruiting class, you'd still have to give him next year. It's not a good look for potential candidates down the line to fire him after getting what likely will be a single digit seed in the tournament.

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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #117 on: February 05, 2020, 08:34:00 AM »
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I think it is important to acknowledge people that excel in their work and WhoaJoe is an example for all of us. He is a 24/7 Scooper, informed  on virtually every topic, witty, funny, edgy and he is not Chico’s. Actually, I feel badly for Jams because he created a monster and this is going to be tough to top down the road.

I think it is great.  The fact so many think he is me and heads explode only make me laugh more.  No need to top him, I salute him and tip my cap to him.
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Re: Fire this coach?
« Reply #118 on: February 05, 2020, 08:35:55 AM »
Let's ask this a different way, because I think this is what is at the crux of this discussion for a vast majority. Hypothetically, if we were guaranteed this recruiting class would stay, and all the current players would stay, would you then be okay going with someone else??


Guru, you still haven’t answered.....why are you expecting Crean / Buzz results when they did not have the recruiting or academic restrictions Wojo has? 
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MU82

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« Reply #119 on: February 05, 2020, 08:44:53 AM »
Let's ask this a different way, because I think this is what is at the crux of this discussion for a vast majority. Hypothetically, if we were guaranteed this recruiting class would stay, and all the current players would stay, would you then be okay going with someone else??

Hypothetically, even though I really, really love my wife, if Scarlett Johansson insisted upon sleeping with me, I'd have to seriously consider it. And here's the great guy I am: I'd invite my wife to join us!

Oh, and that's whether or not the recruiting class chooses to stay at Marquette.

Otherwise, what tower and Orange Soda say.
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« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2020, 10:10:48 AM »
What’s truly is, with his son (allegedly) as an MU student, can we assume he’s active on the board? It’s a shame for a young man to see his father’s mental illness laid bare.

MU82

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« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2020, 11:06:09 AM »
Outstanding article on the unmitigated disaster that is Wake Forest basketball, which not all that long ago was one of the top programs in the ACC:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article239954898.html?

Wojo is not mentioned in the article, but I am guessing a guy with his resume would be VERY well-received by the folks there.

I don't think I'd leave a great situation like Marquette for a dumpster fire like Wake Forest, but who knows if he would want to get back into the ACC, just might like a change, etc.

Wake seems borderline hopeless, but history is filled with competitive coaches believing that they can be the answer in such situations.

I know there are Scoopers who would be delighted if Wojo caps a good season with a couple of NCAA tourney wins and then bolts to a school like Wake (or any school).

I know I'd be curious to see what P6 coaches with recent histories of NCAA tournament successes would be lining up for our job.

All conjecture, I know, but I still find it interesting.
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« Reply #122 on: February 05, 2020, 11:58:17 AM »
82,

That is a cautionary tale.  Things can go drastically wrong searching for the “perfect” coach. 

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« Reply #123 on: February 05, 2020, 01:09:50 PM »
82,

That is a cautionary tale.  Things can go drastically wrong searching for the “perfect” coach.

Yessir, SM.

The only way we'll find the perfect coach is if we hire the guy at Belmont Abbey -- and even then, only if he goes 13-39 his last two seasons there.
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« Reply #124 on: February 05, 2020, 01:19:47 PM »
82,

That is a cautionary tale.  Things can go drastically wrong searching for the “perfect” coach. 


The cautionary tale wasn't hiring Danny Manning.  Wake's problem was that they fired Dino Gaudio after he lead them to two NCAA in the three seasons following Prosser's death.  They inexplicably hired Jeff Bzdelik, who had been terrible at Colorado, and he promptly lead them to a 8-24 record in his first year.

https://gazette.com/sports/ramsey-jeff-bzdelik-should-never-have-been-a-college-coach/article_fc589ff9-39f0-5b75-ad09-c49bf26929fd.html
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