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[Warriors4ever]

I agree. I hope it doesn't happen at NMD on Sunday.

[Small Orange Soda]

Hopefully the squad ends the season on a positive note.  I doubt the folks booing are gonna be any quieter next year otherwise.

[hairy worthen]

Not to continue to beat a dead horse, but thought I would provide a more "inside" perspective on students booing, as I am currently a student at Marquette.
I am not the average student/fan, as I have been invested in Marquette basketball for as long as I can remember. So I obviously care and pay attention a lot more than 99% of students.
As someone previously mentioned, the booing happens because it truly is a herd mentality. Similar to this board, there is a small, but vocal, minority of people on campus that are on the Fire Wojo train. They can easily pander to less informed students by pointing to things such as lack of tournament wins and of course, the Hausers leaving. Hell, in one of my classes during the first week when the "icebreakers" occur, one student used his turn as a time to inform everyone that Wojo should be fired. Fact of the matter is, most students don't care a whole lot about the success of Marquette basketball. I've tried to explain various things to my friends to both increase their interest and lay off Wojo, but they just don't care enough to even want to understand. Most people look at games as a drinking/party opportunity, which is fine. Unfortunately, disliking and booing Wojo has just become something that you're supposed to do for many students. They don't know why, and they don't know the impact that it has, but they will continue to do it anyways. It is very disappointing, because it truly is an awful look. But I'm afraid it won't change unless there is a significant success that grabs many student's attention. They don't care or understand how important things like road wins at Xavier or Georgetown are. The only thing that'll change that is something like a big east championship or a run to the second weekend of the tournament.

Cheeks?

[Jables1604]

Cheeks?

Clearly the son he referenced earlier.

[muguru]

I have a serious hypothetical question for anyone that cares to answer..We talk so much about trending upwards etc here when it comes to the MU program under Wojo. So, my question is...if you were DePaul would you fire Leitao after this season?? I'm asking because even though their BE is a debacle, they had a really good non conference and overall that is a huge step up for them. Their recruiting seems to have gotten better, but...Leitao has now been there 5 years on his second time around and they may not even make the NIT this year after a great start. Still though, it's DePaul and their great non conference is a huge step forward, they also had a run to the Championship of the CBI last year(a tourney for them is progress).

So would you fire Leitao?? Why or why not?? Be as honest as you can be. I can tell you their fans have had it and want him gone.

[Loose Cannon]

Clouseau?

[WhoaJoe2020]

Entitled?  Or pissed off at a coach who ran off the Hausers and lost 2 conference games due to a cascade of coaching issues?  The fanbase is tired of self inflicted wounds.

Motive revealed!!

I'm not sure why the students are booing but now I know why you are.

When people list grievances, they usually put the main one at the top.

Your first complaint about Wojo was very telling.

"Pissed off at a coach who ran off the Hausers"

At least you have admitted why you really hate Wojo.

If only more people were as honest as you accidentally were.

[tower912]

I have a serious hypothetical question for anyone that cares to answer..We talk so much about trending upwards etc here when it comes to the MU program under Wojo. So, my question is...if you were DePaul would you fire Leitao after this season?? I'm asking because even though their BE is a debacle, they had a really good non conference and overall that is a huge step up for them. Their recruiting seems to have gotten better, but...Leitao has now been there 5 years on his second time around and they may not even make the NIT this year after a great start. Still though, it's DePaul and their great non conference is a huge step forward, they also had a run to the Championship of the CBI last year(a tourney for them is progress).

So would you fire Leitao?? Why or why not?? Be as honest as you can be. I can tell you their fans have had it and want him gone.

First, fire the AD.   Then, after a competent AD has a year to organize, assess, and plan, go coach shopping.

[f/k/a humanlung]

I like this post. I hope you are right that an overwhelmingly large majority of Marquette folks are happy to be associated with our hard-working, successful regular season program.

FIFY...

[f/k/a humanlung]

WE ARE BETTER RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THEM THAN WITH THEM.   Great shooters, defensive liabilities.  Get over yourself.  What cascade of coaching issues?

Cheeks, please sit down before reading the rest...

I agree with you 100% on the Hausers.

And now back to our normal programming: 

Not so much on coaching issues.

Did we just have a breakthrough? 

[Dr. Blackheart]

I have a serious hypothetical question for anyone that cares to answer..We talk so much about trending upwards etc here when it comes to the MU program under Wojo. So, my question is...if you were DePaul would you fire Leitao after this season?? I'm asking because even though their BE is a debacle, they had a really good non conference and overall that is a huge step up for them. Their recruiting seems to have gotten better, but...Leitao has now been there 5 years on his second time around and they may not even make the NIT this year after a great start. Still though, it's DePaul and their great non conference is a huge step forward, they also had a run to the Championship of the CBI last year(a tourney for them is progress).

So would you fire Leitao?? Why or why not?? Be as honest as you can be. I can tell you their fans have had it and want him gone.

Never would have hired him the second time. So, yes I would fire him. Major recruiting infraction, team in disarray, poor to middling conference results everywhere he has been. A re-retread who was the only potential candidate you could afford. Is part of the JLP patronage mafia that values staid mediocrity and job security, and has tasted the NCAAs only once in MBB in the 21st century, never in the Big East.

DePaul needs to clean house and hire disrupters. They won't as they are too fat and happy cashing media and NCAA shares earned by all the other conference members. Sounds like the Bulls model.

[MU1980]

Entitled?  Or pissed off at a coach who ran off the Hausers and lost 2 conference games due to a cascade of coaching issues?  The fanbase is tired of self inflicted wounds.

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Your level of cluelessness is almost beyond comprehension. For someone who posts so much, it is astounding your complete lack of understanding of basketball and what it takes to be a successful coach and build a long lasting successful program. Do you know what the Dunning-Kruger affect is? This fits you perfectly. You honestly think you know what you are talking about it and you act like an expert, and you honestly can't even see how clueless you are. Most posters see through your temper tantrums and incoherent nonsensical posts, but even when presented with logic and facts, you continue to spew your unfounded hatred. Your irrational insecurity and anger are seen by most of us, but sadly you will never "get it".

[WhoaJoe2020]

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Your level of cluelessness is almost beyond comprehension. For someone who posts so much, it is astounding your complete lack of understanding of basketball and what it takes to be a successful coach and build a long lasting successful program. Do you know what the Dunning-Kruger affect is? This fits you perfectly. You honestly think you know what you are talking about it and you act like an expert, and you honestly can't even see how clueless you are. Most posters see through your temper tantrums and incoherent nonsensical posts, but even when presented with logic and facts, you continue to spew your unfounded hatred. Your irrational insecurity and anger are seen by most of us, but sadly you will never "get it".

Easy now.....

You're going to wind up being accused of being Cheeks or me or anybody else who disagrees with scoops little echo chamber of Wojo haters.

[hairy worthen]

Easy now.....

You're going to wind up being accused of being Cheeks or me or anybody else who disagrees with scoops little echo chamber of Wojo haters.

I thought mu1980 was talking about you. It fits better.

[MU82]

Not to continue to beat a dead horse, but thought I would provide a more "inside" perspective on students booing, as I am currently a student at Marquette.
I am not the average student/fan, as I have been invested in Marquette basketball for as long as I can remember. So I obviously care and pay attention a lot more than 99% of students.
As someone previously mentioned, the booing happens because it truly is a herd mentality. Similar to this board, there is a small, but vocal, minority of people on campus that are on the Fire Wojo train. They can easily pander to less informed students by pointing to things such as lack of tournament wins and of course, the Hausers leaving. Hell, in one of my classes during the first week when the "icebreakers" occur, one student used his turn as a time to inform everyone that Wojo should be fired. Fact of the matter is, most students don't care a whole lot about the success of Marquette basketball. I've tried to explain various things to my friends to both increase their interest and lay off Wojo, but they just don't care enough to even want to understand. Most people look at games as a drinking/party opportunity, which is fine. Unfortunately, disliking and booing Wojo has just become something that you're supposed to do for many students. They don't know why, and they don't know the impact that it has, but they will continue to do it anyways. It is very disappointing, because it truly is an awful look. But I'm afraid it won't change unless there is a significant success that grabs many student's attention. They don't care or understand how important things like road wins at Xavier or Georgetown are. The only thing that'll change that is something like a big east championship or a run to the second weekend of the tournament.

Keep fighting the fight and try to educate your fellow students as best you can.

So what started as a quiet group of 100 people booing Wojo when we started off 1-3 in the BE has grown to 1,000 fans boing Wojo as we've gone 5-1 in our last 6 BE games? MU fans are just the best.

Right around a top 30 KenPom team, right around a top 25 NET team, alone in 4th place in the 2nd best conference in America. Does it call for wild cheering? Not necessarily. Booing? What an embarrassment.

Yep. We had won 4 of 5 games coming in, playing some very inspired basketball, overcoming adversity. Idiotic to boo anybody associated with our program.

Not surprised, though. It's always easier to follow the herd, always easier to tear down rather than build up.

[WhoaJoe2020]

I thought mu1980 was talking about you. It fits better.

Which proves you suffer from the same affliction as MDDG.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I'm not sure you know what "surreal" means.

Late on this but legit LOL

[WhoaJoe2020]

I have a serious hypothetical question for anyone that cares to answer..We talk so much about trending upwards etc here when it comes to the MU program under Wojo. So, my question is...if you were DePaul would you fire Leitao after this season?? I'm asking because even though their BE is a debacle, they had a really good non conference and overall that is a huge step up for them. Their recruiting seems to have gotten better, but...Leitao has now been there 5 years on his second time around and they may not even make the NIT this year after a great start. Still though, it's DePaul and their great non conference is a huge step forward, they also had a run to the Championship of the CBI last year(a tourney for them is progress).

So would you fire Leitao?? Why or why not?? Be as honest as you can be. I can tell you their fans have had it and want him gone.

This is very similar to when Marquette was 1-3 and people were writing Wojo and the team off.

With DePauls NC record, a strong finish in the conference could easily get them in the tournament. I do not look forward to the game at their place, and any team that overlooks them is setting themselves up for a trap game.

Just like I suggested people let the season play out in regards to Wojo and Marquette, that same suggestion applies to Leitao and DePaul.

[MU2020]

Cheeks?

Yep and this is why I refrain from posting. Thought I'd contribute some legitimate insight from a student perspective but still can't avoid the immature sarcasm from many posters.

[The Sultan]

Yep and this is why I refrain from posting. Thought I'd contribute some legitimate insight from a student perspective but still can't avoid the immature sarcasm from many posters.

Such is life.

[hairy worthen]

Yep and this is why I refrain from posting. Thought I'd contribute some legitimate insight from a student perspective but still can't avoid the immature sarcasm from many posters.

Lighten up Francis you are too young for martyrdom.

[Jables1604]

Yep and this is why I refrain from posting. Thought I'd contribute some legitimate insight from a student perspective but still can't avoid the immature sarcasm from many posters.

Now I'm 100% convinced this is Cheeks' kid.

Your anger at your dad not taking you to the Super Bowl should be directed elsewhere.

[WhoaJoe2020]

MU2020

They're just charter members of the He Man Wojo Haters Club.

When the team was 1-3 they peed all over themselves, and now that Wojo has the team at 6-4 they're embarrassed about how foolish they look wearing the yellow stains that they will carry the rest of their lives.

Adversity reveals character, and their character was revealed.

[BallBoy]

I have a serious hypothetical question for anyone that cares to answer..We talk so much about trending upwards etc here when it comes to the MU program under Wojo. So, my question is...if you were DePaul would you fire Leitao after this season?? I'm asking because even though their BE is a debacle, they had a really good non conference and overall that is a huge step up for them. Their recruiting seems to have gotten better, but...Leitao has now been there 5 years on his second time around and they may not even make the NIT this year after a great start. Still though, it's DePaul and their great non conference is a huge step forward, they also had a run to the Championship of the CBI last year(a tourney for them is progress).

So would you fire Leitao?? Why or why not?? Be as honest as you can be. I can tell you their fans have had it and want him gone.

Pretty apparent the lack of vision  and basketball understanding when even asking the question. Wojo is light years ahead of Leitao. Leitao's seat would be warm anywhere but before I fired him I would talk to the players and if they still wanted to play for him then I would pull the trigger after next year if he didn't show significant improvement. Butz, Gage, Reed, and Moore will be seniors while Weems and Hall will be sophomores. After that the team doesn't have much so you won't lose much with a coaching change.  Their current 2020 recruiting class isn't top 150.

Leitao had one good year with Depaul before leaving. He then did next to nothing at Virginia. This is his second go round with Depaul and has shown some Minor improvement but not nearly the same trend. In his 15 year career, he has gone to the ncaa's twice.

2015 9-22 (3-15)
2016 9-23(2-16)
2017 11-20 (4-14)
2018 15-15 (7-11)
2019 13-9 (1-8) *he needs to run the table to get to the same conference record as last year. If his team doesn't turn it around he could finish the year sub-500 after starting 12-1.

The one thing going for DePaul next year is they lose one player which means they have an experienced team that had some good individual wins this year.  I would see if they could make a run to the NCAAs. After that there is an opp for a clean break.

[Johnny B]

DePaul just landed  a top 35 jr. Pretty unlike DePaul. I'd keep him. They have some young talent.