Blah Demons

[The Sultan]

My guess is that the majority of the students are only doing it because it has become the thing to do, just like shouting "sucks!" as the opposing players are introduced, or standing until we hit the first bucket. How many students really knew why they were booing Crean during the old timeline video? They just knew that they were supposed to when his face popped up on the Jumbotron.

Yep.  It's clear that the students are just dummies following a herd mentality and don't feel that the team has underperformed during their tenure here. 

[hairy worthen]

My guess is that the majority of the students are only doing it because it has become the thing to do, just like shouting "sucks!" as the opposing players are introduced, or standing until we hit the first bucket. How many students really knew why they were booing Crean during the old timeline video? They just knew that they were supposed to when his face popped up on the Jumbotron.

They are not 5 and not stupid. They know what booing is and they shouldn't be doing it.

[hairy worthen]

Nonsense. The 2nd game in 8 days for a 22 year old after 2 days off. He didn't play well yesterday, period. By that standard, God help all these kids in March.

Yes. The tired legs arguement is tired. Maybe it applies to creepy old guys who post on a fan board, but not to 22 year old kids.

Besides the other teams are in the same boat. I find it funny how MU is tired and banged up at this point in the season,  but that doesn't apply to the opposition

[burger]

It is all about matchups....Soon as Bailey was put on Moore and shut him down.....We kind of took over.....

With the strategy in Chicago.....We should win more comfortably.....

DePaul is a tough matchup for us......Creighton is the worst.....

[HutchwasClutch]

Yes. The tired legs arguement is tired. Maybe it applies to creepy old guys who post on a fan board, but not to 22 year old kids.

Besides the other teams are in the same boat. I find it funny how MU is tired and banged up at this point in the season,  but that doesn't apply to the opposition

Exactly. Naji Marshall had 19/10/4 yesterday after 44 minutes against MU.  Ty Jones went for 19/18 after playing 43 against MU. 

[warriorchick]

They are not 5 and not stupid. They know what booing is and they shouldn't be doing it.

I wasn't excusing it. I was explaining it. Most Scoopers would be shocked about how little the typical MU student actually knows about Marquette basketball. A lot of of them are there to party, and I am actually fine with that. But don't try to get into some sort of in-depth conversation with them.

A couple of years back, glow Jr. was working in the Office of Marketing and Communications, and he excitedly told his fellow interns that he was going to be filming Bo Ellis. The reaction:  "Who is Bo Ellis?"

[hairy worthen]

I wasn't excusing it. I was explaining it. Most Scoopers would be shocked about how little the typical MU student actually knows about Marquette basketball. A lot of of them are there to party, and I am actually fine with that. But don't try to get into some sort of in-depth conversation with them.

A couple of years back, glow Jr. was working in the Office of Marketing and Communications, and he excitedly told his fellow interns that he was going to be filming Bo Ellis. The reaction:  "Who is Bo Ellis?"

Yeah I would believe that

[WhoaJoe2020]

Exactly. Naji Marshall had 19/10/4 yesterday after 44 minutes against MU.  Ty Jones went for 19/18 after playing 43 against MU.

The outside shot is the first thing to go with tired legs. I'm guessing Naji and Tyreke didn't put up too many threes.

Marquette relies on threes. Tired legs can affect an outside shooting team more.

Marquette also had back to back OT games and has been playing with a short bench.

You do follow Marquette right??

[Miss Katie’s]

Petulant and embarrassing are two good words.

+1

[Mr. Nielsen]

Many students are there for the school sprit and the party on a Saturday. Which is great!  I wouldn't get my scouting report from a large chuck of them to word it nicely. 

[hairy worthen]

The outside shot is the first thing to go with tired legs. I'm guessing Naji and Tyreke didn't put up too many threes.

Marquette relies on threes. Tired legs can affect an outside shooting team more.

Marquette also had back to back OT games and has been playing with a short bench.

You do follow Marquette right??

Well I dont buy your premise that they have tired legs. Its another excuse along with all the other excuses and qualifications.

[tower912]

Hairy, how has the team done versus your expectations last April or your expectations from the beginning of practice?

[willie warrior]

I wasn't excusing it. I was explaining it. Most Scoopers would be shocked about how little the typical MU student actually knows about Marquette basketball. A lot of of them are there to party, and I am actually fine with that. But don't try to get into some sort of in-depth conversation with them.

A couple of years back, glow Jr. was working in the Office of Marketing and Communications, and he excitedly told his fellow interns that he was going to be filming Bo Ellis. The reaction:  "Who is Bo Ellis?"

How the hell did the guy get into MU without knowing who Bo Ellis is? Thought that should be part of admissions critera. McGuire, Ellis, Thompson, Walton, Chones, Lucas, McNeil, Meminger, Lackey, Tatum, etc. And then for extra credit Brell, the Elevator man, my old Grafton Buddy, Sewell. All ofthose should be tested for, along with a host of others.

[MU82]

The booing is also pretty stupid because the optics on that to recruits is terrible, and it would be hard not to get somewhat resentful if you are Wojo given the time,  energy and stress the coaches deal with.  It could certainly be a factor if other opportunities arise for him at some point. For the students booing, the reality is if they get what they apparently wish for, they are pretty much assured to have a significant drop in the quality of the team during their short window at the school due to losing recruiting classes and potentially current players. Yes, there are exceptions, but that is more often the case.

I am not firmly projo or nojo, but there is enough momentum in the program that I want to see this play out a bit more given the current and incoming talent. Booing the head coach of a team that is doing pretty well this season and indisputably has heart and plays hard is really stupid to me. People don't have to love the guy, and I get the arguments beaten to death here about the lowered expectations, investment in the program and five years is enough. People can write letters to the AD or even Wojo  to express their displeasure. I have no issue with that. To me, the public display of booing the coach at games is counter-productive to what a fan of the program should be rooting for. It can't feel good for the coach or team, and certainly doesn't look good to recruits, parents of recruits, prospective coaches, media and other observers. Certainly not classy either. No problem if people choose not to cheer him, but booing is in no way going to help the program and under the circumstances reflects poorly on the fan base even though it is a minority of the crowd booing. It's not like we are 5-16.

This is totally where I am: Booing is counterproductive.

If you really love Marquette basketball, and you want the program to improve, why do you want to send a message to recruits that students boo their own team - one that has gone 40-16 over the last season and a half, one that is about to make the NCAAs for the 3rd time in 4 years, and one that is pursuing a kid who will clinch this being a top-10 recruiting class coming in?

I agree with those who say it is almost surely a follow-the-herd mentality. Don't be sheeple, kiddies, it's a bad look. And it's counterproductive.

[hairy worthen]

Hairy, how has the team done versus your expectations last April or your expectations from the beginning of practice?

I would say they have exceeded my expectations. I also think it is a bit premature to make that determination. They were flirting with a 2 maybe a 1 seed last year at this time.

[Elonsmusk]

Not true. You are lying

Hypothetically a bomb could rip through the stadium. Are u upset by one who claims "bombs no Matta"?  Eat d

You have some good basketball insights and player evaluation skills. However, your FTs No Matta schtick is stupid. A strong FT Rate with a crap tastic FT shooting percentage ain't going to help you win many ballgames.

Eat D...solid middle school level trash talk. You can do better.

[WhoaJoe2020]

My guess is that the majority of the students are only doing it because it has become the thing to do, just like shouting "sucks!" as the opposing players are introduced, or standing until we hit the first bucket. How many students really knew why they were booing Crean during the old timeline video? They just knew that they were supposed to when his face popped up on the Jumbotron.

This^, and the mob tends to have leaders who are the most obnoxious and belligerent setting the agenda.

Hopefully another group of students has the fortitude to tell them to STFU.

[tower912]

And if injuries, fatigue, and internal strife return, it could be another poor finish.  So far, they have fought through the injuries and fatigue.   

[PGsHeroes32]

Yes. The tired legs arguement is tired. Maybe it applies to creepy old guys who post on a fan board, but not to 22 year old kids.

Besides the other teams are in the same boat. I find it funny how MU is tired and banged up at this point in the season,  but that doesn't apply to the opposition

I am not saying that I am all in on the excuse either but no....other teams do not all have the same issue at the same time.

We may have tired legs currently do to playing 4 games in a 10 day stretch that was culminated with a 2 OT game. In those games we had only 8 guys available, Gtown also went down to the wire and SJU plays a fast pressure pace.

We then followed that up with a OT game this week and then another game down to the wire. Its been a lot. Many teams have not had the same current schedule the last 16 days.

Now we have 8 days off. So tired legs wont work for the Butler game.

[hairy worthen]

And if injuries, fatigue, and internal strife return, it could be another poor finish.  So far, they have fought through the injuries and fatigue.   

Internal strife? Maybe. No significant sign of it. Injuries? Only if they are major injuries that cause loss of playing time. Fatigue? Absolutely not, all the teams play a long schedule with tough games MU's supposed fatigue is no worse than anyone elses

[Loose Cannon]

Yes. The tired legs arguement is tired. Maybe it applies to creepy old guys who post on a fan board, but not to 22 year old kids.

Besides the other teams are in the same boat. I find it funny how MU is tired and banged up at this point in the season,  but that doesn't apply to the opposition

Yep especially X that beat the Hall.

[HutchwasClutch]

The outside shot is the first thing to go with tired legs. I'm guessing Naji and Tyreke didn't put up too many threes.

Marquette relies on threes. Tired legs can affect an outside shooting team more.

Marquette also had back to back OT games and has been playing with a short bench.

You do follow Marquette right??

If you think Anim's workload in the past 8 days  is too much for any 18-22 year old finely conditioned athlete to handle, then I can't help you.  You must think very little of what these guys can handle. Just cancel the conference and NCAA tournaments now and give everyone participation trophies.

It's ok to just say he didn't play well yesterday and leave it at that. You don't have to come up with defenses and excuses for everything that is MU basketball.

[HutchwasClutch]

The outside shot is the first thing to go with tired legs. I'm guessing Naji and Tyreke didn't put up too many threes.

Marquette relies on threes. Tired legs can affect an outside shooting team more.

Marquette also had back to back OT games and has been playing with a short bench.

You do follow Marquette right??

I also didn't realize what a cakewalk 18 boards in a major D1 game is either. You're not playing basketball hard or susceptible to fatigue from the game unless you're jacking threes. Got it.

[PGsHeroes32]

I should also had we are the only BE team to play 10 games so far in conference.

You can dislike the tired legs excuse all you want. Nothing wrong with that.

But continuing to argue that other teams are in the exact same situation as us is blatantly wrong. We have played more games then everyone, we have played 6 in a short stretch with back to back OT games.

[tower912]

Can anyone recall another game where, aside from Markus, only 3 baskets from beyond point blank range were made in an entire game?    It was, to me, the most astounding thing about the game.   Truly won at the free throw line.