Crean v Buzz Sat Feb 1

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The real question is......If Buzz had Crean's 2003 team.....

Would he have one a National Championship.....

Let the discussion begin......

Me thinks.....Possibly......

Crean was so far over his head against Roy......

Not a chance.

[wadesworld]

The real question is......If Buzz had Crean's 2003 team.....

Would he have one a National Championship.....

Let the discussion begin......

Me thinks.....Possibly......

Crean was so far over his head against Roy......

Not enough JUCO players on the team for Bazz to win with.  While at Marquette, he wasn't overly successful in getting a ton out of his high school recruits.  He was great at finding JUCO players who came in and played tough, physical basketball.

[Elonsmusk]

Not enough JUCO players on the team for Bazz to win with.  While at Marquette, he wasn't overly successful in getting a ton out of his high school recruits.  He was great at finding JUCO players who came in and played tough, physical basketball.

Pretty sure Buzz would have done just fine with D-Wade leading a team despite him not being a JUCO.  The whole narrative of Buzz could only win with JUCO's is silly.

Believe Vander, Junior, Davante, Jamil, Otule all played key role on Elite 8 team?

[Pakuni]

The real question is......If Buzz had Crean's 2003 team.....

Would he have one a National Championship.....

Let the discussion begin......

Me thinks.....Possibly......

Crean was so far over his head against Roy......

Did you watch the 2011 Sweet 16 game?

[The Sultan]

I think Buzz would have had the team more prepared for Kansas, but they likely don't win. That's was a bad match up with their quickness. UAB showed that in the CUSA tournament.

I actually think they could have done well v Syracuse though.

[wadesworld]

It's not like Bazz's teams only lost super competitive games in the Tournament. We were essentially uncompetitive in losses to UNC, Syracuse, and Florida.

[Elonsmusk]

It's not like Bazz's teams only lost super competitive games in the Tournament. We were essentially uncompetitive in losses to UNC, Syracuse, and Florida.

Well. We finally can find something Buzz and Wojo have in common. 

[wadesworld]

Well. We finally can find something Buzz and Wojo have in common. 

Were we talking about Wojo? I must've missed that or been in the wrong thread. My bad. Thought the discussion was weather Bazz would've coached the 03 team to a national title and/or had the team more prepared to play Kansas. Guess we were talking about Wojo vs. Bazz instead. I'll hang up and listen to that discussion then. Apologies for interrupting it!

[MuMark]

https://youtu.be/qawDWu0CtfU

[Dr. Blackheart]

https://youtu.be/qawDWu0CtfU

Well, Buzz is a Crean Guy

[Pakuni]

I think Buzz would have had the team more prepared for Kansas, but they likely don't win. That's was a bad match up with their quickness. UAB showed that in the CUSA tournament.

I actually think they could have done well v Syracuse though.

Maybe.
Then again, there were more than a few times Buzz's teams were ill-prepared for a tournament game.

[Lennys Tap]

Not enough JUCO players on the team for Bazz to win with.  While at Marquette, he wasn't overly successful in getting a ton out of his high school recruits. 

He won the Big East regular season championship (the old, best conference in the country Big East) and went to the Elite 8 without any judos - so there's that.

[Lennys Tap]

It's not like Bazz's teams only lost super competitive games in the Tournament. We were essentially uncompetitive in losses to UNC, Syracuse, and Florida.

Buzz won 8 tournament games and lost games by 10 to an Elite 8 team and 18 and 19 to two final four teams.

Crean won 5 tournament games and lost by 12 to a round of 32 team by 30 something to a final four team.

Wojo has won zero tournament games and lost to a final four team by 20 and a round of 32 team by 19.

[wadesworld]

Buzz won 8 tournament games and lost games by 10 to an Elite 8 team and 18 and 19 to two final four teams.

Crean won 5 tournament games and lost by 12 to a round of 32 team by 30 something to a final four team.

Wojo has won zero tournament games and lost to a final four team by 20 and a round of 32 team by 19.

So what you're telling me is that Buzz, like Crean, got blown out by teams that went to a Final Four?

I agree. Lol.

The question was would Bazz have coached the 03 to a National Title, no? That's what I was responding to, anyway. Not sure what Wojo has to do with that. But my response had to do with the fact that maybe Bazz would've had them more prepared for Kansas than Crean did. But maybe he wouldn't have, like he didn't have them prepared for Florida, UNC, or Syracuse.

[Lennys Tap]

The question was would Bazz have coached the 03 to a National Title, no? That's what I was responding to, anyway.

Actually, I thought the question was would have MU acquitted themselves better against Kansas if Buzz was the coach rather than Crean.

You piped in with some BS about that team not having enough JUCOS, obviously forgetting that Buzz's best team didn't have any on its roster.

[wadesworld]

Actually, I thought the question was would have MU acquitted themselves better against Kansas if Buzz was the coach rather than Crean.

You piped in with some BS about that team not having enough JUCOS, obviously forgetting that Buzz's best team didn't have any on its roster.

Ah. Okay. Got it. So...Bazz, like Crean that game, had teams totally unprepared in NCAA Tournament losses.

[Lennys Tap]

Ah. Okay. Got it. So...Bazz, like Crean that game, had teams totally unprepared in NCAA Tournament losses.

Ah. Okay. Got it. So...when you said Buzz needed Jucos to win you were dead factually wrong since he had his best season without any on the roster. Thanks.

[wadesworld]

Ah. Okay. Got it. So...when you said Buzz needed Jucos to win you were dead factually wrong since he had his best season without any on the roster. Thanks.

Sure! Somebody can't take a bit of sarcasm.

But I do enjoy you playing the roll for Bazz that Cheeks plays for Tom.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Well. We finally can find something Buzz and Wojo have in common. 

I think its a stupid argument and am projo but the 3 games u mentioned were deep into the tournament

[Lennys Tap]

Sure! Somebody can't take a bit of sarcasm.

LOL. Incapable of admitting you were wrong. Nothing new here.

[wadesworld]

LOL. Incapable of admitting you were wrong. Nothing new here.

I am? Check my post history. Within the last 5 or so posts I admitted I was wrong.

I'll apologize for your inability to not get worked up over some sarcasm, though.

Now will you do the same? Bet not!

[Galway Eagle]

Buzz won 8 tournament games and lost games by 10 to an Elite 8 team and 18 and 19 to two final four teams.

Crean won 5 tournament games and lost by 12 to a round of 32 team by 30 something to a final four team.

Wojo has won zero tournament games and lost to a final four team by 20 and a round of 32 team by 19.

How can you use "elite 8" and "final four team" to qualify the loss when they got to those because of the win over us. It's like saying "al lost to a championship nc state team" it makes sense in the early rounds where a team can catch you off guard Because they're hot (South Carolina) but not when they became a final four team because they beat you in the elite 8

[Lennys Tap]

I'll apologize for your inability to not get worked up over some sarcasm, though.

Now will you do the same? Bet not!

No problem. I'll apologize for your inability to after the fact make a declarative statement seem like intended sarcasm.

So we're good. How much did we bet?

[Lennys Tap]

How can you use "elite 8" and "final four team" to qualify the loss when they got to those because of the win over us. It's like saying "al lost to a championship nc state team" it makes sense in the early rounds where a team can catch you off guard Because they're hot (South Carolina) but not when they became a final four team because they beat you in the elite 8

Galway

I think when you're routed the quality of the team that routed you is a mitigating factor.

I honestly don't know what your point is.

[Pakuni]

How can you use "elite 8" and "final four team" to qualify the loss when they got to those because of the win over us. It's like saying "al lost to a championship nc state team" it makes sense in the early rounds where a team can catch you off guard Because they're hot (South Carolina) but not when they became a final four team because they beat you in the elite 8

It's gotten to the point they're nitpicking over the quality of the rout.