Trap Game

[WhoaJoe2020]

Could care less...it's a flawed comparison. What happens between X and Seton hall has ZERO bearing on MU. However, you are right, there is ZERO excuse for Hall to get blasted the way they are. Where this game is different though, is law of averages..Hall is/was due to lose a BE game, sooner or later. Let's put it this way, X winning at Hall is/was way less shocking to me then DePaul winning at MU would be.

The bile you've been saving up after Marquette didn't lose to X must have backed up all the way to your brain.
If Marquette wins today I seriously fear for your mental well being.

[MU82]

Besides ... I'll be surprised if SH still doesn't win.

[MU82]

Besides ... I'll be surprised if SH still doesn't win.

Pleasantly surprised to be wrong and to see X take this one.

I cannot believe SH would lose at home to a team that even mediocre Marquette has beaten twice, including by 944 points at Fiserv.

It was more likely that Powell would be struck by lightning than that happening! And the injury to McNight is no excuse.

Fire Willard!

[tower912]

Trap games are games you think you SHOULD win, usually coming between theoretically tougher, more emotional games.  MU dodged their bullet.

[muguru]

The bile you've been saving up after Marquette didn't lose to X must have backed up all the way to your brain.
If Marquette wins today I seriously fear for your mental well being.

Get over yourself...I NEVER EVER root for MU to lose...ever. Loved the X win, loved today's win. I hope you learned a valuable lesson son...there would have been no excuse for losing to DUHpaul today. And they didn't. You know why?? Because they were never going to lose to them. There was no trap game, no "letdown" it was playing the last place team in the Big East on your home floor. Give them long enough and they will shoot themselves in the foot.. Said that to my buddy during the game today. You know why?? That's what last place teams do, hence why they are in last place. I never for a second thought MU would lose today.

[WhoaJoe2020]

Trap games are.famea.uounthink you SHOULD win, usually coming between theoretically tougher, more emotional games.  MU dodged their bullet.

And not just the games you think you "should" win, but the games everybody thinks you "should" win, including the media and Vegas.

You fall into a false sense of security and relax, which IS the trap.

[WhoaJoe2020]

Get over yourself...I NEVER EVER root for MU to lose...ever. Loved the X win, loved today's win. I hope you learned a valuable lesson son...there would have been no excuse for losing to DUHpaul today. And they didn't. You know why?? Because they were never going to lose to them. There was no trap game, no "letdown" it was playing the last place team in the Big East on your home floor. Give them long enough and they will shoot themselves in the foot.. Said that to my buddy during the game today. You know why?? That's what last place teams do, hence why they are in last place. I never for a second thought MU would lose today.

Nerve struck!!

Listen to yourself trying to convince yourself.

The reason I had confidence at the end of the game had nothing to do with what DePaul did or didn't do.....

It was all about the refs "son".

[Elonsmusk]

And not just the games you think you "should" win, but the games everybody thinks you "should" win, including the media and Vegas.

You fall into a false sense of security and relax, which IS the trap.

Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge with the board. I'm sure others, like myself, have also wondered:  Why do they call it a trap game?

[WhoaJoe2020]

Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge with the board. I'm sure others, like myself, have also wondered:  Why do they call it a trap game?

You do realize that comment was for the people that insisted that the DePaul game wasn't a trap game right????

By the way, after reading some old posts that others had shared, I was made aware that you're that ners guy that people constantly clOWNED.

I now care even less what you think if that's even possible.

[wadesworld]

Trap games are.famea.uounthink you SHOULD win, usually coming between theoretically tougher, more emotional games.  MU dodged their bullet.

Yup. This was very much a trap game, and MU almost fell into it. DePaul's record is not indicative of how good or bad they are.

[79Warrior]

Yup. This was very much a trap game, and MU almost fell into it. DePaul's record is not indicative of how good or bad they are.

Good lord , only people on this board argue the type of win we get. Take  the W and move on.

[WhoaJoe2020]

Good lord , only people on this board argue the type of win we get. Take  the W and move on.

You're a little late to the party. That isn't what the arguments about at all.

[Elonsmusk]

You do realize that comment was for the people that insisted that the DePaul game wasn't a trap game right????

By the way, after reading some old posts that others had shared, I was made aware that you're that ners guy that people constantly clOWNED.

I now care even less what you think if that's even possible.

So you followed this board closely in 2009-2015 when I posted under Ners? Yet you never felt compelled to post here during that time?  Yet finally, you join 3 months ago and are on a historic posting pace of 25+ posts per day?  Seems a guy with SO much to say wouldn't sit on the sidelines for so long?

And yes, there were a consistent 5-10 posters here who really took offense to my posts - most of which centered around how good Buzz was from Day 1 on the job, how admin of Larry Williams/Pilarz we're running Buzz off, and how poor of coaching decision it was to put Derrick into a 33+ minute per game role, and being very critical of Wojo early.

You know who really hated me for all of the above?  A prolific poster named: ChicosBailBonds.

[wadesworld]

Good lord , only people on this board argue the type of win we get. Take  the W and move on.

Argue? What was I arguing?

We had a trap game today. We struggled, but we won. In my opinion it was a trap game because DePaul has one conference win but is better than that would suggest. I'm thrilled.

[WhoaJoe2020]

So you followed this board closely in 2009-2015 when I posted under Ners? Yet you never felt compelled to post here during that time?  Yet finally, you join 3 months ago and are on a historic posting pace of 25+ posts per day?  Seems a guy with SO much to say wouldn't sit on the sidelines for so long?

And yes, there were a consistent 5-10 posters here who really took offense to my posts - most of which centered around how good Buzz was from Day 1 on the job, how admin of Larry Williams/Pilarz we're running Buzz off, and how poor of coaching decision it was to put Derrick into a 33+ minute per game role, and being very critical of Wojo early.

You know who really hated me for all of the above?  A prolific poster named: ChicosBailBonds.

Domt feel special, I dislike a lot of the posters on this site who act like spoiled children, and seem to think Wojo should already have Marquette at near blue blood status. Go back and read the comments when Marquette was 1-3 in conference. I joined because I was sick of comments like those in the middle of the season, and in the middle of a recruiting battle for Mane. I'm free to vent just like you are. This is how I do it. If you don't like it, tough.

[MU82]

Great. A make-believe guy is arguing with the banned-4-life Nrs.

Only on Scoop, ladies and gentlemen.

[Jables1604]

So you followed this board closely in 2009-2015 when I posted under Ners? Yet you never felt compelled to post here during that time?  Yet finally, you join 3 months ago and are on a historic posting pace of 25+ posts per day?  Seems a guy with SO much to say wouldn't sit on the sidelines for so long?

And yes, there were a consistent 5-10 posters here who really took offense to my posts - most of which centered around how good Buzz was from Day 1 on the job, how admin of Larry Williams/Pilarz we're running Buzz off, and how poor of coaching decision it was to put Derrick into a 33+ minute per game role, and being very critical of Wojo early.

You know who really hated me for all of the above?  A prolific poster named: ChicosBailBonds.

I must have hallucinated your obsessive/compulsive posting about John Dawson...

[JakeBarnes]

so like...do we need larger nametags to ensure accuracy at the scoop NMD meetup at Bucks?

Signed,

Jakebarnes/ners/chicos/tower/hoopaloop/warriorchick

[Jockey]

Yup. This was very much a trap game, and MU almost fell into it. DePaul's record is not indicative of how good or bad they are.

Denny Green says "Hey".

[Lennys Tap]

Yup. This was very much a trap game, and MU almost fell into it. DePaul's record is not indicative of how good or bad they are.

Well, they're 1- 8 in conference with 2 losses to St.John's - so they could be better than their record and still bad.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Great. A make-believe guy is arguing with the banned-4-life Nrs.

Only on Scoop, ladies and gentlemen.

Ners never pretended to be anyone else.

But WhoaJoe?  Let's see...
* Must respond to every single post
* Has to have the last word, always
* Long, goal-post shifting diatribes
* Is an a-hole even when making a valid point
* Same phrasing and style as CBB
* Perpetual wanker

Ipso facto, Hoopaloop II

[wadesworld]

Well, they're 1- 8 in conference with 2 losses to St.John's - so they could be better than their record and still bad.

Well, they've also won at Iowa (top 15 KenPom), at Minnesota (top 40 KenPom), beaten Texas Tech at home (top 25 KenPom), and beaten Butler at home (top 15 KenPom). So maybe they just play in a tough conference and had a few close games not break their way (lost to Providence by 1, in overtime to Nova, and down the stretch on the road to SHU and MU).

They're certainly not world beaters, but I wouldn't call them "bad." They're 64 in KenPom and 59 in NET. I wouldn't expect a team that's 1-8 in their conference to be ranked there.

[Cheeks]

Great. A make-believe guy is arguing with the banned-4-life Nrs.

Only on Scoop, ladies and gentlemen.

Mike

I have been in Miami most of the week, getting ready to head over to the tailgate Party in 20 minutes and then the game.  I have posted very infrequently since being here because I have been so busy with players, agents, tv, radio, NFL, etc.  I chuckle at the made up guy stuff....it remains deliciously funny to me.

WhoaJoe...I tip my hat to you sir.

[djvern414]

I love you Cheeks...and WhoaJoe. I want to thank scoop as well for entertaining me for years. The annual subscription fee is in the mail.

I really find this purely entertaining with no judgment, but let's help some kids. I do find it interesting that someone around the time of the great scoop crash of 2020 created a new profile to support the coach. It's who says the what, right?

I looked at your post history and found an interesting use of the spelling "by product," which is really just one word but if you spell it wrong on your phone/computer it wouldn't autocorrect it. I then cross-referenced that with all known uses of the same word and there were a few other people that used it but only cheeks had used it more than once and within the last year.

Also, if you look at a post from WhoaJoe on January 8th, 2020 at 3:58 p.m. he suggests that kids Google the phrase 'you can't win for losing." I then searched that phrase under scoop which was only used one other time that I could find on March 27th, 2011 by the one and only Chico's bail bondsman. What are the odds?

There is also a post where cheeks responded within a half hour at 2 a.m. in the morning. Probably bored at the airport talking about Ian Zierling. Coincidence? Maybe.

I know that you wouldn't object to donating to charity so let's put up $500 on the line to the charity of Cheeks' choice. WhoaJoe, I assume you don't mind, right?  You have to confirm your account with the mods and I'm willing to do the same.  If I'm right you pay the $500 and if I'm wrong I'll pay the $500.

Once again, love you both.

[Pakuni]

Well, they're 1- 8 in conference with 2 losses to St.John's - so they could be better than their record and still bad.

They're not bad.
Nor are they particularly good.
They're KenPom #64, surrounded by the likes of Arizona State, Tennessee, TCU and Texas. Which seems about right.

At the end of the day, it was a game MU should have won and did win, even without playing anywhere near their best.