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MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 30, 2021, 07:58:46 AM
Why? What happened to rugged individualism and pulling oneself up by their own bootstraps?

The virus doesn't care about one's bootstraps.

tower912

#10626
It is good to see so many championing this visitor from elsewhere, fighting for its freedom to express itself, welcoming it into their homes and society, and fighting against anything that might impede it.

A segment of society has moved past its previous perceived xenophobia and placed the needs of the virus  before the needs of humanity.   Let's call them virus huggers
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

This is why it is largely over for the vaccinated.  And the only reason we might be going back to masking is because a significant portion of our society won't go through the effort of protecting themselves.  And patience is running low.

https://twitter.com/germanrlopez/status/1421149024808210434?s=20
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 30, 2021, 12:08:48 PM
This is why it is largely over for the vaccinated.  And the only reason we might be going back to masking is because a significant portion of our society won't go through the effort of protecting themselves.  And patience is running low.

https://twitter.com/germanrlopez/status/1421149024808210434?s=20

He nicely stated exactly how I feel.  You ain't vaxxed?  So sorry, I can't hold your hand forever.  Some bad decisions just need to be experienced on their own.

People can whine about kids not being vaccinated and what a burden that is, but kids get sick all the time.  It's part of being a kid.  And covid doesn't put them in the hospital, so... just keep them home like any other flu season.  Also, it seems like the trials for the vaccine on kids is going well, so they may soon be eligible.

tower912

It is putting them in the hospital now.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: tower912 on July 30, 2021, 12:36:50 PM
It is putting them in the hospital now.

From a few days ago.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

QuoteHospitalizations (23 states and NYC reported)*

    Children were 1.3%-3.6% of total reported hospitalizations, and between 0.1%-1.9% of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in hospitalization


Mortality (43 states, NYC, PR and GU reported)*

    Children were 0.00%-0.26% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 8 states reported zero child deaths
    ​In states reporting, 0.00%-0.03% of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death

I'm going to err on the side of statistics always.  Having said that, we will see in 3-4 weeks how many kids under 12 end up in the hospital.

Parents who are concerned shouldn't be letting their children play with others who may have been exposed.


4everwarriors

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 29, 2021, 08:38:05 PM
Delta variant update:

Not good.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1420895645326524418?s=19

Masks needed by everyone. More contagious. More severe. Can be spread by vaccinated.

IMO, there will be suggestions for shutdowns again and it's gonna get ugly.




Of course, mid-terms aren't that far off, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

jesmu84

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 31, 2021, 07:36:33 PM



Of course, mid-terms aren't that far off, aina?

Can you extrapolate your thought process?

pbiflyer

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 31, 2021, 11:06:11 PM
Can you extrapolate your thought process?

You are saying there is one?

forgetful

Record hospitalizations in Florida right now...for a disease that is now preventable.

At some point GOP politicians and spreading lies about the disease and vaccines that lead to hesitancy in vaccination need to be held criminally and financially liable.

4everwarriors

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 31, 2021, 11:06:11 PM
Can you extrapolate your thought process?



Continued power and control...rather obvious, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2021, 06:36:49 PM


Continued power and control...rather obvious, aina?

Masks are control, and somehow mandating masks means more votes?

Your brain is in the upside down, doc.

jesmu84

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2021, 06:36:49 PM


Continued power and control...rather obvious, aina?

I guess not.

What's the connection/link between midterm elections and a more dangerous strain of Covid?

4everwarriors

#10639
Again obvious...continued reliance on government as restrictions and monetary handouts are not only continued, but also increased. All in the name of covid, the gift that keeps on giving, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

#10640
NM.   No point to it.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2021, 07:16:29 PM
Again obvious...continued reliance on government as restrictions and monetary handouts are not only continued, but also increased. All in the name of covid, the gift that keeps on giving, hey?


So the government is just making up the increased hospitalizations because they want to keep control?

Black helicopters aiina?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

shoothoops

https://twitter.com/cleavon_md/status/1421947305444454403?s=21

10,207 people in Florida hospitalized with COVID-19, more than at any other time during the pandemic.

4everwarriors

Did not say they are making it up. Yet, why test asymptomatic people? Pfizer's vaccine is 84% effective 6 months after administration. Pretty good odds, wouldn't you say? All this craziness is destroying lives in a multitude of ways, scarring children and depriving them of a legitimate education, destroying businesses, and bankrupting our future. Yes, continuing subsidies buys votes. Businesses are desperate for workers. But why work if you can collect $15/hr to sit on your fat ass? Why won't Blacks get the vaccine? What is the clergy's role in encouraging compliance? Bottom line is get the vaccine, shut the fook up, and carry on a normal life, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2021, 07:52:50 PM
Bottom line is get the vaccine, shut the fook up, and carry on a normal life, hey?

Im sure there is something you could do instead of carrying on.  I've heard that some dentists offices are adding vaccination/booster services.

4everwarriors

No shortage of facilities to receive the vaccine. We are overloaded as is serving the public.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2021, 08:02:12 PM
No shortage of facilities to receive the vaccine. We are overloaded as is serving the public.

You seem like someone that could be an advocate to break through hesitancy if you wanted.

Be the difference...

4everwarriors

I have had several in depth conversations with patients. Not certain if I've been successful or not. Honestly, in my experience, the African-American population is by far the most skeptical and untrusting group I run across and $100 isn't going to change minds. In short, non-compliant conservatives simply don't believe any of the imposed measures are necessary and are willing to take their chances. Liberals run the spectrum from compliance to unhinged covid crazies.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

forgetful

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2021, 08:14:37 PM
I have had several in depth conversations with patients. Not certain if I've been successful or not. Honestly, in my experience, the African-American population is by far the most skeptical and untrusting group I run across and $100 isn't going to change minds. In short, non-compliant conservatives simply don't believe any of the imposed measures are necessary and are willing to take their chances. Liberals run the spectrum from compliance to unhinged covid crazies.

Move to a conservative state and you'll find that is not the case. In some deep red states people secretly get the vaccine and then lie to friends/family saying they haven't because they will be damn near disowned. Places where getting kicked out of a store for refusing to wear a mask gets your applause and is a badge of honor.

African American populations have a good reason to be hesitant, as historically they have been tested upon and abused. The far-right does not have any reason to be hesitant, except for party pride.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2021, 08:14:37 PM
I have had several in depth conversations with patients. Not certain if I've been successful or not. Honestly, in my experience, the African-American population is by far the most skeptical and untrusting group I run across and $100 isn't going to change minds. In short, non-compliant conservatives simply don't believe any of the imposed measures are necessary and are willing to take their chances. Liberals run the spectrum from compliance to unhinged covid crazies.

Im not sure about the sorting/categories, but anyone not taking the vaccine is imposing harm and extending the pandemic on society.  Full hospitals make us all unsafe and cause a segment of society to withdraw from the economy/society.  Schools will not be normal until the majority of people think the pandemic is over.  We all pay when someone doesn't take a free vaccine and ends up unnecessarily on a ventilator. 

Vaccines work. We all need to help our communities understand that. 

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